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bonadea33
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posted February 09, 2011 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wrote here about my Austrian friend, how much in love she was in one divorced man, but things didn't go well. He left her and had other girl friend. She was really love-sick: Venus from 12th, square Saturn, ruler of 7th. She has spent lots of money calling all over (including me): will they be together again.
She has seen him last time 6 months ago (by gas station) and he was very skinny and weak. She is not sure, did he see her.
She told me yesterday, that he is dead. He died November 25th, 2010 from cardiac arrest.
(He was born November 11th, 1967)

Other things have changed: she has got new job in book story and has new friend (she is not in love with him, but they live together). Now, she is afraid, that all people close to her are going to die.

Her Progressed Sun has changed the sign already last year. Progressed Mars is going soon to the end of one sign and change to the next sign.

Also her Solar Return shows that there are changes in her 7th house: Sun and Moon in 7th.

Bobbie

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bonadea33
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posted February 09, 2011 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her Natal Chart:

Her Solar Return, 2010/11:

Bobbie

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bonadea33
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posted February 09, 2011 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We both have met in the hospital, June 2005.
We both went through the hell since 2001. I am still there.

I think that she deserves some comment, as she did before when I have posted her Natal Chart, first time. She has really, really suffered.
She is very friendly and helpful person, what I don't see every day.

Here is her photo: http://tinypic.com/r/2hp7haq/7

We are not the monsters. We are both helpful, if we can help.

Bobbie

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Ami Anne
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posted February 10, 2011 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to say I was thinking of you,Bobbie ,and wishing good things for you.
I said Hi on another thread but you may have not seen it

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posted February 10, 2011 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww, your friend has a cleft chin like me

Sorry, I don't know much about astro, just wanted to say that

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posted February 10, 2011 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Bobbie

Is there a specific question you want to ask about your friends chart or some general comments?

Without being too obvious, and taking literally what you have already said,

Her Moon in taurus in the 11 th house suggests some sort of communal home, with the ruler, Venus in the 12th house, some kind of restriction or institution or self-undoing.

Her Venus squares both Uranus and Pluto, so since venus rules her Moon, I would suggest that possibly this means she is imprisoned by her emotions and she has problems here.

Her Moon is unaspected except p.fortune. I might imagine her mother to be someone who is considered to be an ideal mother in many ways but one who actually suffocates her daughter?

Your friend has a strong, feminine presence, her Sun in the first house sextile Uranus/pluto, makes for such an interesting but complicated person.

Jupiter in the 12th suggests that she gets help when she needs it.

Her Venus, Mars and Jupiter in the 12th may lead her to complicated relationships with unavailable men, and alot of romance bound up in fantasy.
Mars square Saturn also suggests a block with her anger and this may transfer to the type of men she attracts since Saturn is her DC ruler also.
Saturn is also in Pisces.
I see alot of loneliness in your friend's chart, would that be correct?
Saturn at 29 Pisces is a very difficult placement.

I write this under the assumption that there is a pattern to her love affairs and that she attracts quite negative men, would that be correct?

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posted February 11, 2011 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami Anne,

Thank you for kind words. The other you write here, I have seen today.

Hi EverEvolvingSpirit,

That is nice to have it on the chin. It means, you and my friend have something in common?

WL, Bobbie

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posted February 11, 2011 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Quinnie,

Thank you for explaining her Natal Chart.

I wrote this, because this man (now dead) was her great love, at least she told me so.
She was married to a very kind man and has two adult sons, but her husband wasn't her great love.
I have asked her, why she married him? She told that they lived together and her parents told, they should marry and they did.
She is very unhappy after this man left her. Maybe he knew something about his sickness and didn't tell to anybody? I guess so. She met him in the Hospital, 2004.
Otherwise she has all, except love: big apartment, 240 m2 that her parents (rich) and her sister and brothers bought her as some kind of inheritance. Her ex husband has also paid all her phone calls and helped her with the money as she gets only 500,00 Euro (some kind of early rent, because she was long time in the hospital, more times, since 2001) and that is not much for Austria.
She has new: TV, new car, Computer with Internet but she has no idea, how to use Internet. I told her, to do something and try to forget this man. She was helpless to do anything.
I think, it is good for her that that happened (sorry for that), because there is no more HOPE, to be with him.

She didn't call me very often since end of the last year. When she did, when I have opened my phone (with cover) it was over.

About her mother: her mother is slender, well dressed and looks like the lady from old aristocracy. She was born in Virgo sign and Angy said to me, that her mother is very critical to her and to her father (they are also divorced).

I hope, she will find the right man. Now, she lives with somebody, I didn't understand well, who is the new man. She works now and has no more time to talk over phone very long time.

WL, Bobbie


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Quinnie
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posted February 11, 2011 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bobbie,
your friend's solar return chart suggests that your friend will have new beginnings in a relationship.
A new moon in the sign of cancer is a nice placement to have. The beginning of a journey for her to attain emotional security. She will be fine

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posted February 13, 2011 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Quinnie,

Thank you very much for explanation.

About that I have told her last year, but she didn't listen to me. She still was obsessed with this man, Scorpio.

I didn't see that there is New Moon in her SR 7th house. Something special?!
I have seen only the Sun and the Moon, there.

Her Venus and Mars in Natal Chart, in 12th: funny that she meets her love, just in the Hospital!

WL, Bobbie

p.s. Sorry, I can't use computer very often and that is reason, I never write (by New Topic) to send me comments from the members.

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posted February 13, 2011 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for specialistangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you sure the friend is from Austria?

I know someone who's from the Netherlands, and they were so happy there, much happier there than they are here, where I am (in USA). The someone from the Netherlands is a shy person, sort of paranoid, but that's to be expected from a foreigner, they're new to the area and out of sorts, so that's why they seem a little bit different to all the people here, where I am (in the USA).

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posted February 13, 2011 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
specialistangel,

Of course, I am sure. I met her in the Hospital, in Austria (very close to Switzerland) and I had for the first time, good time in the Hospital.

She was born there and she still lives there. She has moved after divorce to the place to her new apartment, close to the ski area, where she used to ski. The place, where she is now is not very far from her ex husband. Her sons live with him.

She wrote me also letters from Austria. She calls me from Austria.

Also, her GREAT LOVE was from other village, not far from her.

Austria and Netherlands are very different: I was in Netherlands twice and there is all flat. The only thing there I like are tulips and the houses without curtains on the windows.

Bobbie

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posted February 13, 2011 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for specialistangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your GREAT LOVE is in Austria, and you're? Where are you?

I had a love from Belgium, he was also out of sorts but not as much as I was, at the time. His windows didn't have any curtains on them (so all the neighbours could see what he was doing) but he did have stained glass windows, which I thought was nice. We didn't talk much though, not sure why, but that might change though, soon hopefully.

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posted February 13, 2011 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was her GREAT LOVE (he died, November 25th, 2010). She met him 2004, after divorce from her husband.

My GREAT LOVE was also from Austria!

I live south from Austria.

About curtains: I would be afraid to live like that, if the house would be down. On the 2nd or 3rd floor is no problem in some quite and fresh area.

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posted February 13, 2011 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for specialistangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry to hear that he died!

Out of curiousity, how old was he when he died? Did they try to revive him, or was he just found gone?

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posted February 13, 2011 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was 43 years and 2 weeks old.

My friend told me, that she didn't see him for 6 months. It was by gas station and he looked very weak and skinny. She is not sure, did he see her.

She told me also, that somebody told her, he asked his daughter to go to the pharmacy to bring tablets. After she came, he was already dead.

She told something strange. The night before he died, he came in her dream and said: "darling" to her! At that time, she didn't know, what happened to him.

End of the story for her. End of the HOPE!
She has new male friend and new job, now.

B.

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posted February 13, 2011 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend was right when she said, she is afraid, there are going to die some more people. She told me today that her other friend (good friend, male and older) has died. She wanted him to assist her by giving her apartment to rent and was told, that he died short time ago.

Is that NEW MOON in her SR 7th house? Is that Saturn in her 8th house (Saturn rules her 7th, also other people). I had a feeling that New Moon in her SR 7th is not sooo good!

Strange Solar Return! I have never seen New Moon in SR.

B.


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posted February 13, 2011 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for specialistangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Solar Return is just a passing faze, should'nt boggle you too too much, as the Solar is always there. (I do'nt really pay that much attention to the various returns).

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posted February 15, 2011 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
specialistangel,

Solar Return works for me. I have seen what is important and what is not.

I don't like, when somebody writes about transits, only. Transits are for everybody living on the Earth.
My Solar Return is only for me. Of course: for Solar Return is very important, to have exact birth time.
I have seen also, that it works by somebody's death. Death belongs to the Medical Astrology and I always do SR for the year, some famous person has died.

Bobbie

p.s. I am on dangerous area. It could happen that I will see my own death.

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posted February 15, 2011 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for specialistangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why are you talking about death? Try to be positive.

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posted February 15, 2011 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In Medical Astrology is also death.

Somebody doing that must be ready to see the way, how he is going to die, as well.

There are accidents, suicides, death diseases, short life, long life, ect.

Death is the only part of our life that is 100% sure!

B.

p.s. I have feeling that you know more, than I do.

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posted February 15, 2011 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for specialistangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To die, willingly, to make that choice, rather than let nature do it for you, is to give up.

I wouldn't recommend to give up. Fight, and fight, and fight some more, until the bitter end.

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posted May 05, 2011 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For Quinnie,

I see how helpful you are. You wrote about SR of my friend and you gave right answer.

Result:
she found new job, what means she is working;
she gave her big apartment for rent to some people;
she moved to one friend to live with him (he told: "without obligations"), but I think, she is the one, who will obligations. Also, they must be more than only friends, as she is not calling me anymore.

The Sun and the Moon in her SR 7th is really right: sometimes is Solar Return very easy to explain.

Thank you Quinnie,
Bobbie

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posted May 05, 2011 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
specialistangel,

Sorry, I didn't see your answer.

Ruler of my ASC is Venus in 8th, house of death. To write or to talk about death is my "hobby". My 8th house is the best house in my Natal Chart.

WL, Bobbie

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posted May 05, 2011 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Bobbie
Thank you for this....I really appreciate feedback

Thank you

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