posted February 11, 2011 03:15 PM            

I'm usually funny in everyday life but not through trying, I laugh at other peoples jokes but never tell them myself, I like a lot of comedy but prefer it to be dark.

The only time I ever felt like I had a sense of humour bypass was when saturn went over my sun...couldn't raise a smile in myself to save my life.

posted February 11, 2011 03:17 PM            

One interpretation I found said "opposition from Jupiter to Saturn indicates that you fluctuate between knowing what you are worth and having grave doubts of your value"

That's TOTALLY me!

posted February 11, 2011 03:35 PM            

Moon in Pisces in 3'11 Pisces in 6th
square
the opposition of Jupiter in 8'16 Sagittarius in 3rd and retrograde Saturn in 5'08 Gemini in 9th

my t-square is tighter in Right Ascension
Moon in Pisces in 4'24 Pisces
square the opposition of Jupiter in 6'37 Sagittarius and retrograde Saturn in 3'36 Gemini
with corresponding midpoint picture of Moon oppose Jupiter/Saturn midpoint - 0'42

My t-square is the challenge of my spiritual,sensitive feelings in the daily routine conflict
with expansive communications and structured belief systems that are in odds with each other

It can also be feelings that swing between optimism and pessimism
in extreme cases, it can be manic depression (that's not me)

As you can see, it's a challenge involving spirituality,religion,philosophy,belief systems,learning,teaching,and communications as well as service

It's both a mutable and cadent t-square, and so strongly associated with being changeable,adaptable,restless

My planets are polarity placements
Moon in Pisces in the house associated with Pisces' opposite sign
Jupiter in Sagittarius in the house associated with Sagittarius' opposite sign
Saturn in Gemini in the house associated with Gemini's opposite sign

Moon in Pisces squares its traditional dispositor , and so a double whammy of Moon-Jupiter, and so about the religious,philosophical,and expansive feelings as well as indulgence and generosity.

from the traditional astrological perspective
with whole sign house system which was used by Ptolemy who came up with the system of house,zodiac sign rulership:

Moon in 7th
Jupiter in 4th
Saturn in 10th

and so challenges involving relationships,partnerships, roots,domestic environment, career, social status

I don't lack a sense of humor. In fact, I can be very humorous and silly. I can have a morbid sense of humor. That was pointed out when I was 2 years old.

I don't have modest goals. If I did, I wouldn't have created a non profit neurodivergence organization and want to be a big part of the Neurodiversity Movement.

My Jupiter-Saturn opposition aspects my Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius.

Saturn is in one of the Gauquelin sectors which is said to be typical for scientists
Jupiter is in one of the Gauquelin sectors which is said to be typical for actors
Moon is in one of the Gauquelin sectors which is said to be typical for writers

My Moon is conjunct Royal Star, Alpha Piscis Austrinus Fomalhaut in 3'28 Pisces which is a star associated with success through noble ideals, fame, charisma, "Star of Alchemy"

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 11, 2011 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
One of my best friends has jup sq sat,fantastic sense of humor! Few goals and their execution is magical. But,she is always torn between I want/love and I must/need. Amazingly optimistic and again very cynical and critical.

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posted February 11, 2011 04:03 PM            

Keep in mind that Uranian Astrologers and Cosmobiologists don't look at hard aspects as "afflictions" Ptolemy didn't either. Vedic Astrologers don't either, and they use whole sign house aspects like Ptolemy did.

Jupiter-Saturn
JU.SA.*
+ mature. patient. modest. humble. moderate. thorough. level-headed. matter-of-fact. circumspect. conservative. frugal. serious.
Enduring good luck. Lasting success. Satisfaction in later times. Fortunate separation or departure. Income later. Frozen assets. Financial shares or stocks. Legal temperance. Conditional problems. Maturation. Building. Change of location.
- overly materialistic. pedantic. mammonistic. philistine. miserly. contrary. poor at handling money. sometimes unfair. prone to undervalue.
Separation from good luck. Financial difficulties. Scarce money. Few possessions. Limited earnings. Legal problems.

Moon-Jupiter-Saturn
MO.JU.SA.
+ emotionally mature. responsible. duty-conscious. conscientious. economical. thrifty. frugal. moderate. humble. calm. imperturbable. nonchalant. retrospective; interested in historical factors. frugal.
Continually harmonious frame of mind. Mature woman. Happiness due to an older woman. Rich elderly woman. Success or happiness after a separation or departure. Conditional gains. Fortunate separation of or from the wife. Happiness or success in the evening. Time of maturation. Wealth in or due to the past. Public building.
- miserly. indifferent. apathetic. negligent. lax. boring. dull. stymied. stuck in the past. unfair. has legal problems. contrary. covetous. miserly.
Limited success. Legal problems. Financial difficulties of the public. National financial problems.

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 11, 2011 04:32 PM            

[Libranabby: One interpretation I found said "opposition from Jupiter to Saturn indicates that you fluctuate between knowing what you are worth and having grave doubts of your value"]

--I could totally see how harsh aspects to Saturn/Jupiter would cause that. I've never really had major self-esteem issues, even as a child. I kind of just marched to the beat of my own drum as a lone wolf. I think my Saturn-Jupiter met each other half way just making me keenly realistic & pragmatic. I find people often mistake realistic criticism for negativity. At group meetings I would express my thoughts right off the bat. "That idea sucks & wont work cuz of this." People might think wow so negative, such a downer...if you dont try how would you know? Then when things really dont work & everyone gives up, I'm the last one standing doing damage control. Then they see it as being, "strangely optimistic." For me, it's not about being optimistic...it's what works, & if it doesnt how can I make it work? If it aint broke, dont fix it, & if the idea's broke to begin with, dont attempt it...if you find yourself in the broke, how would you fix it.
I dislike people trying to box in others as negative or optimistic, especially when they dont understand where your coming from. Although with that said, there truly are some people who are negative. The one's who box themselves into a malfunctioning static enviroment & dont make any "real useful," effort at change & blame it on bad luck. I would also like to point out, it's not really about, "LUCK." Sometimes after I managed to re-structure & make something crappy work...people would say, "oh your so lucky, everything turns out ok for you." Well, news flash, I was the last one standing trying to fix it & it sure took a lot of stress/effort/suffering when everyone else bailed.

An example relating to esteem; if someone's fired from their job, your normal average person might take that negatively. They'd probably feel crappy (ego attachment), cuz they failed or sucked at doing something. I would tend to think, "well this situation sucks, & clearly I sucked at doing A & B, but whateves...cuz I'm rock'n good at X, Y, Z!" Basically I just recognize & own up to the fact I'll always suck at certain things, but it doesnt mean I'm a bad or dumb person...that's why it doesnt bother me. *shrug*

I think this aspect & (along with Earth), matches to the INTJ motto. How INTJ's are keenly aware of what they are good or suck at & how they could help you.

posted February 11, 2011 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Mystic Melody:
I have Saturn opposite my Jupter/Neptune conjunction. I don't find myself successful in the mundane sense of the word, it's more of a plodding "It's a Wonderful Life" success where I usually have "just enough" materially and sometimes have great and loving support from those I have ploddingly loved all along.

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same here

my Saturn opposes both my Jupiter and Neptune which are in wide conjunction, and the opposition squares my Moon for a t-square, and so its personal

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.