posted February 15, 2011 02:05 PM            

The only good thing is that I am aware of this tendency so whenever I get that heated feeling in my chest that jealousy or whatever brings, I know to tone it down. It's funny because my boyfriend doesn't think I'm a jealous or possessive girlfriend at all-- but deep down, I can be a giant, raging, mess of a woman. I just don't let it get the better of me, at least I try.

I think it's not as bad because of his Leo sun though, maybe. I think Linda wrote that Leos tend to treat their lovers more like royal subjects, this is TOO TRUE!! He too can be insanely possessive and jealous.

So

a) Anyone else have this?
b) Anyone else have this with Libra placements as well?
c) How do you deal with this? I don't always want to feel like this. I'm good at hiding it from him, but I still feel it inside you know?

posted February 15, 2011 02:45 PM            

Even though I'm in a committed relationship, I still need men interested in me, I still need to drive them crazy. I am way too aware of my femininity, I guess.

I have a round of men that text me regularly, telling me how much they wish I would cheat, how much they want me, etc. And even though I'll never cheat, there is this darkness in me that is never completely innocent, I feel. Feels awkward and like I'm all stuck up even saying this, but it is true.

I have one coworker that I always flirt with, just using my eyes and smiling and stuff. Well one day he finally texts me, telling me how much I'm torturing him, etc etc.

It's a love/hate relationship with my venus in scorpio..

posted February 15, 2011 07:10 PM            

In a committed relationship, and getting affection, attention, and respect, I would not feel comfortable...

I have been in a couple of abusive relationships, and my dad 'abandoned' me when I was 7...so I always blamed my 'self-esteem' issues on all of that...perhaps these aspects just compound it?

I will say however, when I am single...I love the attention, and get more than I can handle. Everytime I have been in a committed relationship/marriage, it has taken quite some time to get the emails & texts to stop...I won't continue with that once 'committed' though, and certainly wouldn't like it if he was doing the like..

My big thing is when being in a 'committed' relationship, that you are a 'team'...I have always believed that it is 'you and I' against the world...if you find your 'other-half', you should be treated like their 'other-half', and vice versa...

Libra...the hopeless romantic...uggg lol

posted February 16, 2011 09:17 AM            

Even the idea of sleeping with another man to me is repulsive, it would break my soul into two and just the idea makes my heart feel heavy.

Which I guess does mean it really is an attention thing. And given my past, it does make sense.

posted February 16, 2011 03:16 PM            

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Originally posted by maira:
Hi Venus, what's the story with the 29th degree? I know in theory about the anaretic degrees, but how do they manifest in one's chart?

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posted February 16, 2011 04:47 PM            

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I also should add- I'm a terrible flirt. But not just flirt.. like.. it's like I know what men are thinking. And I use it to my advantage all. the. time.

Even though I'm in a committed relationship, I still need men interested in me, I still need to drive them crazy. I am way too aware of my femininity, I guess.

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My god you and I are twins haha! ;D

Yep Libra Sun, Merc and Venus in Scorpio, Cancer asc and Cappy moon here. Myself and a friend of mine who's also Scorp Venus were talking about this placement the other day and we both have the same experience with men who 'flock' and wish we'd cheat. We also talked about the very 'goddess' like craving to be adored by our men (but not necessarily exclusive to the men we're in a relationship with) to the exclusion of all else. We make each other laugh with tales of how outraged we inwardly feel when they take their attention away for a time - it's a hell of a placement and no mistake! It can also be a blessing though - to feel things so acutely and experience the depth of passion and intensity is something that makes you know you're alive. It's just a question of tempering it (as you sound as though you're doing brilliantly by the way) and finding a partner who's not so terrified of that depth of passion and emotion that they run as fast as they can in the opposite direction! ;D

posted February 16, 2011 05:37 PM            

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Originally posted by seeker3030:
My god you and I are twins haha! ;D

Yep Libra Sun, Merc and Venus in Scorpio, Cancer asc and Cappy moon here. Myself and a friend of mine who's also Scorp Venus were talking about this placement the other day and we both have the same experience with men who 'flock' and wish we'd cheat. We also talked about the very 'goddess' like craving to be adored by our men (but not necessarily exclusive to the men we're in a relationship with) to the exclusion of all else. We make each other laugh with tales of how outraged we inwardly feel when they take their attention away for a time - it's a hell of a placement and no mistake! It can also be a blessing though - to feel things so acutely and experience the depth of passion and intensity is something that makes you know you're alive. It's just a question of tempering it (as you sound as though you're doing brilliantly by the way) and finding a partner who's not so terrified of that depth of passion and emotion that they run as fast as they can in the opposite direction! ;D

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Seeker...I have the Cappy ASC...and Mars in Cancer...

My Libra Sun is at 14 degrees...Cappy ASC 21...Neptune 7 SC, Merc 8 SC, Venus 13 SC...Mars 7 CAN....how about you girls?

posted February 16, 2011 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by libranabby:
Lately I have been feeling the more dark side of this placement in my natal chart. I would never openly admit this because I know it's wrong, but I DO feel the need to control my partner and I DO feel insanely jealous sometimes. And obsessive... I admit it! But I don't mean to feel that way and make anything negative. I just.. love him? hahaha. I think my Libra sun and moon are not helping me here since I already desire partnership to my very core.

The only good thing is that I am aware of this tendency so whenever I get that heated feeling in my chest that jealousy or whatever brings, I know to tone it down. It's funny because my boyfriend doesn't think I'm a jealous or possessive girlfriend at all-- but deep down, I can be a giant, raging, mess of a woman. I just don't let it get the better of me, at least I try.

I think it's not as bad because of his Leo sun though, maybe. I think Linda wrote that Leos tend to treat their lovers more like royal subjects, this is TOO TRUE!! He too can be insanely possessive and jealous.

So

a) Anyone else have this?
b) Anyone else have this with Libra placements as well?
c) How do you deal with this? I don't always want to feel like this. I'm good at hiding it from him, but I still feel it inside you know?

My venus is relatively unaspected except for two semi aspects and one sextile with mars. Also, I have a 5th house Uranus if that effects anything?

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would it be ok to look at your chart and examine your Venus

I think that you might have something else going on with your Venus

it could be something going on in the declinations, right ascension which are the latitude and longitude coordinates of the equator

the regular chart is ecliptic longitude

Venus could also be in hard aspect to one of Pluto's fellow transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate......heck a hard aspect to Sedna is not something that I want to see in a chart. My mom has Venus square Sedna, and her love life sucked. Venus in hard aspect to Eris could indicate a discordant,controversial love life

Venus could be in hard aspects to nodes of planets and dwarf planets

Princess Diana's Venus was in hard aspect to the Sedna Nodes

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posted February 16, 2011 06:59 PM            

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Originally posted by starzy54:
My Venus is in Scorpio,with a Cap Sun and ASC.I'm not going to say I crave mens attention.I'll just say I know how to get it,and can usually tell what a guy likes or is in to very quickly.I've had a more than a few guys "Fall" for me,in less than a few days...It doesn't boost my ego or anything,Since i know i have this advantage.If I was a cruel person i'd use it to harm or manipulate people,I can't bring myself to do that,so i usually just avoid friendship with males because I can't take the drama of rejecting them anymore.I don't have the ability to just display "friend" to a guy,it always comes off as something more to them.blah

In my exclusive relationship as of right now,I do get a little clingy/possessive jealous.BUT I find it better if you can look deep inside yourself and let go of those dark feelings.They will do more harm than good.Try your absolute BEST to not let them get a hold of you.I have a Pisces in my life,so I have to strike a delicate balance of support and detachment to let him be free..if you give them room they will always come back and they will THANK you for being so supportive and strong.Dont think dark thoughts

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posted February 16, 2011 07:34 PM            

Here is my chart, in all it's glory.

I do have a majorly afflicted sun and mars due to my double T-square. They're both cardinal t squares which I've read has to do with social identity a lot. Perhaps that contributes.

@Seeker- I'm glad to know I'm not the only one! And you're right, it is the men who flock. It's just way too easy to play with their heads. And almost just a way to pass the time. I know that may sound cruel, but eh.. I'm not going to lie. But I do recognize what I have at home and like I said, the idea of cheating sickens me. And I do love the positive part of this placement! My Leo man (venus in Libra and Libra asc) is very romantic and is able to handle (as well as supply!) lots of passion and true depth of emotion. He's amazing.

posted February 16, 2011 07:35 PM            

Here is my chart, in all it's glory.

I do have a majorly afflicted sun and mars due to my double T-square. They're both cardinal t squares which I've read has to do with social identity a lot. Perhaps that contributes.

@Seeker- I'm glad to know I'm not the only one! And you're right, it is the men who flock. It's just way too easy to play with their heads. And almost just a way to pass the time. I know that may sound cruel, but eh.. I'm not going to lie. But I do recognize what I have at home and like I said, the idea of cheating sickens me. And I do love the positive part of this placement! My Leo man (venus in Libra and Libra asc) is very romantic and is able to handle (as well as supply!) lots of passion and true depth of emotion. He's amazing.

posted February 16, 2011 07:35 PM            

I have a had a lot of misfortune in love to the point that I even wondered if I was cursed.

I get easily impatient when it comes to love. I can get angry with a love partner. I am very passionate and intense as a lover. That whole "unite in body and soul" is something that I am about. When I am in love, I feel inspired to the point that I can more poetic and artistic. I have written love poetry to my romantic interests. I even made a Valentines Day card and Anniversary Card for an exgirlfriend.

I don't handle heartbreak well. When a gal breaks up with me, it is hard to get over. I am the type of guy if I found the right woman, I'd want to be with her forever.
Therefore, it makes sense that I would be hurt if I lost her. I am an ultrasensitive person including my love nature.
I can easily be hurt in love. It can be hard for me trust and open my heart after being hurt. I can be very shy with my love interest at first, and I can be very guarded.

Once I do, I am very open,optimistic,faithful,and think about the possibilities of the future. I am very humorous and silly with her, it's a sign that I am very comfortable with her.

I prefer a partner that is spiritually oriented and ultrasensitive. She would need to accept my path as a neurodiversity advocate. It would be great if she was into helping others in some way. A love for children is a must.

I am a believer in equality,diversity in love,relationships. Being the offspring of interracial relationship, I am into interracial relationships.

Communications is also very important in relationships,lovelife. If I can communicate well with her, then I know I am fine with her.

The following is the placement and aspects of my Venus from the Divergent Astrological perspective aka Multidimensional:

Regular Chart (Ecliptic Longitude)

My Venus in 21'47 Scorpio in 3rd
(my love nature involves security and stability (fixed) in the emotional,psychic realm (water) in the area of communications)

conjunct Geocentric South Venus Node in 22'32 Scorpio
(merge with past personal karma involve love,relationship,values)

conjunct chart ruler Mercury (My Ascendant is in Virgo) in 18'21 Scorpio
(merge with thinking,communications)

trine transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Orcus in 22'28 Cancer R
(in harmony with oaths,promises, evolutionary intensification)

trine Geocentric North Jupiter Node in 20'53 Cancer
(in harmony with present collective expansion,judgment,optimism)

trine Geocentric North transneptunian dwarf planet Pluto Node in 21'16 Cancer
(in harmony with present collective transformation,regeneration,power, evolutionary intensification)

square Mars in 25'54 Aquarius
in friction with assertion,passion,physical drive

Declination (Equatorial Longitude)

Venus 18'10 South

parallel Mercury 18'24 South
(merge with thinking,communications

parallel Neptune 18'57 South
(merge with dissolution,idealism,inspiration)

contraparallel Saturn 19'02 North
(odds with structure,discipline,limitation)

Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude)

Venus in 19'22 Scorpio

square asteroid dwarf planet Ceres in 18'09 Leo
(in friction with nurturing,mother,empty nest)

sextile transneptunian dwarf planet Haumea in 20'15 Virgo
(works with creativity,fertility,female reproductive cycles,evolutionary intensifcation)

quincunx transneptunian dwarf planet Eris in 19'32 Aries
(in strain with diversity,equality,discord,evolutionary intensification)

FIXED STAR conjunctions Venus

Conjunctions in Ecliptic Longitude:

Venus in 21'47 Scorpio conjunct

Unukalhai in 21'40 Scorpio
Alpha Serpens star
Success followed by fall, suicide, insanity, accidents, success in war, politics, writing, problems in love, forgery, shipwreck, loss, earthquake
Unfortunate
Saturn/Mars influence

Conjunctions in Right Ascension:

Venus in 19'22 Scorpio conjunct:

Zuben Elschamali in 18'52 Scorpio
Beta Libra star
Honors, wealth, distinction, brilliant mind, success in sports, politics, war, religion, writing, tragedy, violence, melancholy
Fortunate
Jupiter/Mercury/Mars influence

Princeps in 18'35 Scorpio
Delta Bootes star
Ability to research keen, studious and profound mind, business, government, law, science, arts, lies
Fortunate
Mercury/Saturn influence

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posted February 16, 2011 07:56 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Unfortunate in love. Fated to fail,suffer... I avoid pointing to anything astrology related in definite manner,but I was really shocked when I started searching for cases and even more when I was looking at charts! Women,they just never get over it,no moving on. Good deal of it they brought it on themselves,believing that's their destiny,I think! But,really sad stories. Suffrement...Worst case-girl murdered by bf.

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Does this manifest in all the anaretic degrees? My question was more of a general one, for instance, does this degree manifest the worst traits of that sign (I have Uranus at 29 degrees).

libranabby, sorry for hijacking the thread! Here's an interpretation by Robert Hand, so I won't be completely off topic

"Your feelings about people are very intense; you either like them very much or don't like them at all. And you will want to have your loved ones near as much as possible. But be careful of this possessive tendency, because you may alienate the very people whom you want as friends by not giving them enough freedom while they are around you. On the other hand, you are very faithful to those you like if they are loyal to you.

posted February 16, 2011 07:57 PM            

Oooh but here are pictures of me and him, I can't help myself

I am sooo obsessed with long hair. My major relationships all included men with long hair.

Lol he was apparently in a very deep thought

Him with my best friend on her birthday.

posted February 16, 2011 08:36 PM            

I actually suspected that your Venus was in the same degree as mine.
I kept thinking that your Venus is conjunct a certain star.

The first thing that I noticed about your Venus is that is closely conjunct my Venus in 21'47 Scorpio, and so right off the bat I know that you
share some aspects in common with me in regards to slow moving astrological factors.

Venus in 21'41 Scorpio
semisquare Sun - 1'25
semisquare Mars - '55
semisquare Saturn - '56

indicates that your love,relationships,values are in minor friction with your ego,self expression,vitality (Sun), assertion,passion,physical drive (Mars), and structure,discipline,limitations (Saturn)

you have an 8th harmonic aspect triangle of Venus semisquare the square of Mars and Saturn which is a challenging aspect pattern. It's a milder version of the t-square.

It has a corresponding corresponding midpoint picture of

Venus in 21'41 Scorpio
conjunct Mars/Saturn midpoint in 22'46 Scorpio

which indicates love,relationships,values (Venus) combines with the integration of assertion,passion,physical drive (Mars) and structure,discipline,restrictions (Saturn

Your Venus in 21'44 Scorpio is also conjunct the fixed star:
Unukalhai in 21'55 Scorpio
Alpha Serpens star
Success followed by fall, suicide, insanity, accidents, success in war, politics, writing, problems in love, forgery, shipwreck, loss, earthquake
Unfortunate
Saturn/Mars influence

That was one of the aspects that you and I have in common in regards to slow moving astrological factors. If there is a fixed star that you don't want making a conjunction to planets,angles in your chart, it's definitely Unukalhai.

Your Venus has strong Mars-Saturn theme

You don't just have Venus semisquare your Mars and Saturn, you have Venus conjunct Mars/Saturn midpoint and a Saturn/Mars fixed star.

There is no wonder that you have had problems with jealousy,possessiveness, and experiencing a more darkside to your love nature

I looked for any hard aspects (conjunction,opposition,square as well as quincunx,semisquare,sesquiquadrate) involving Pluto's fellow transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates
that was one of my suspicions.

Venus in 21'40 Scorpio
conjunct transneptunian dwarf planet Ixion in 22'10 Scorpio

that indicates that your love,relationships,values (Venus) merge with karma,2nd chances,evolutionary intensification (Ixion)

Ixion is an object that orbits beyond Neptune like Pluto. Therefore, it's a transneptunian object. It has 2:3 orbital resonance with Neptune like Pluto does. What that means is that for every 3 times Neptune orbits the Sun, Pluto and plutinos orbit the Sun twice. As a rule, astronomers name plutinos after underworld characters. Ixion is named after a wicked Lapith King in Greek mythology. He murdered his father-in-law, and no mortal would purify him. Zeus agreed to do it. He made Ixion his guest on Mount Olympus. Ixion betrayed Zeus by giving Hera sexual advances. Hera told Zeus about it, and Zeus tested Ixion by making a fake Hera out of a cloud. Well...Ixion had sex with that fake Hera, and he ended up bragging about it. Zeus had him taken to Tartarus (where souls get punished in the underworld) and bound on a spinning fiery wheel. The result of the sexual union between Ixion and Nephele (fake Hera) was Centaurus who mated with a wild mare. That led to the race of Centaurs being born. Ixion's legacy was being the grandfather of the centaurs.

look at the mythology
Ixion was the first mortal murderer in Greek mythology. He was given a 2nd chance by Zeus, but he betrayed the host-guest contract with Zeus by coming onto Hera. His lust and his audacity did him in. His lust led to ultimately the lusty Centaurs.
The wheel that he spins is compared to the wheel of birth,death,rebirth. Philip Sedgwick lists understanding the karmic wheel as one of Ixion's preliminary keywords.

Your Venus is conjunct transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Quaoar in 23'20 Scorpio

that indicates that your love,relationships,values (Venus) merge with inspiration,creativity,evolutionary intensification (Quaoar)

Quaoar orbits beyond Neptune and Pluto. It's classed as a cubewano aka classical kuiper belt object. It is named after the Native American Los Angeles Tongva tribe God who was said to create through song and dance.

Your Venus is biquintile transneptunian dwarf planet Varuna in 27'10 Gemini R

that indicates that your love,relationships,values (Venus) are in a creative connection with cosmic order,judgment,justice,evolutionary intensification (Varuna)

Varuna orbits beyond Neptune and Pluto. It's classed as cubewano aka classical kuiper belt object. It is named after the Indian God of the Waters who was also once the Supreme Deity that was supplanted by Vishnu. He is depicted as carrying a noose. He is said to judge the souls of the drowned.

Your Venus really isn't unaspected. Your Venus conjuncts 2 of Pluto's fellow transneptunian dwarf planets.

They weren't discovered until after the 21st Century, and so astrologers would have no way of knowing about your aspects before the 21st Century.
Therefore, your Venus would be viewed as unaspect.

It's like how some people in the late 1800's thought their planets were uaspected before Pluto was discovered.
or how people back in ancient times thought their planets were unaspected before Uranus and Neptune were discovered.

I checked any Venus aspects to planetary nodes

Your Venus in 21'40 Scorpio

trine Geocentric North Jupiter Node in 21'30 Cancer
(in harmony with present collective expansion,judgment,optimism)

trine Geocentric North transneptunian dwarf planet Pluto Node in 21'13 Cancer
(in harmony with present collective transformation,regeneration,power, evolutionary intensification)

I have the same aspects as you. That's the rest of the aspects that you and I have in common in regards to slow moving astrological factors.

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posted February 17, 2011 07:20 AM            

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Originally posted by maira:
Does this manifest in all the anaretic degrees? My question was more of a general one, for instance, does this degree manifest the worst traits of that sign (I have Uranus at 29 degrees).

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