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paikchris
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posted February 16, 2011 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paikchris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking about the generational thing of Pluto being in Scorpio. People born in the last 20 or so years have this in their natal charts.

When you look at synastry, a Venus conjunct Pluto aspect usually leads to "obsession" and "sexual attraction" from the Pluto person to the Venus Person.... and the Venus would feel it too.

Soooo... Would that make this generation's Venus in Scorpio's just plain lucky? I mean they basically conjunct nearly EVERYONE'S plutos.

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posted February 16, 2011 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by paikchris:
I mean they basically conjunct nearly EVERYONE'S plutos.

Venus in Scorpio wouldn't conj someone who had early or mid Pluto in Libra, or Virgo or Leo and they're all still in power (more Leo and Virgo than Libra).
Not sure on what you mean.

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posted February 18, 2011 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think what paikchris is trying to say is that due to Pluto's slow astrological cycle; 10-32 years because of its elliptical orbit.

Pluto was in Scorpio between 1984-1996 a good 12 years which is comparitively short.

In my case I have Pluto in Scorpio at 11.07 degrees, this means that if you take a conjunction as up to 10 degrees, yes it does vary practice to practice, then my Venus would conjunct anyone's Pluto who was born between 84 and say 93 for example, I haven't done the exact math so forgive me.

Therefore my Venus in Pluto will conjunct the majority of people born within 4 years of me either way. So I will have a Venus Conjunct Pluto aspect with the majority of my 8-10 year generation.

This is what I think Paikchris is getting at.

This will be the same for Venus in Sagittarius and Pluto in Sagittarius although Pluto is much more at home in Scorpio.

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Glaucus
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posted February 18, 2011 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Swift Freeze:
I think what paikchris is trying to say is that due to Pluto's slow astrological cycle; 10-32 years because of its elliptical orbit.

Pluto was in Scorpio between 1984-1996 a good 12 years which is comparitively short.

In my case I have Pluto in Scorpio at 11.07 degrees, this means that if you take a conjunction as up to 10 degrees, yes it does vary practice to practice, then my Venus would conjunct anyone's Pluto who was born between 84 and say 93 for example, I haven't done the exact math so forgive me.

Therefore my Venus in Pluto will conjunct the majority of people born within 4 years of me either way. So I will have a Venus Conjunct Pluto aspect with the majority of my 8-10 year generation.

This is what I think Paikchris is getting at.

This will be the same for Venus in Sagittarius and Pluto in Sagittarius although Pluto is much more at home in Scorpio.



shrugs

I can't see how a 10 degree orb could be used for dwarf planet Pluto, heh....
if that's the case, then might as well as use a 10 degree orb for all of Pluto's fellow transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates including even the 11,000 year orbit Sedna.

Ixion and Orcus are plutinos,and so they orbit like Pluto. Their orbital periods are only a year apart from Pluto's.


It's amusing to see people use wide orbs for Pluto to point out that there is a strong connection.

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Glaucus
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posted February 18, 2011 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There were other transneptunian objects that were in Scorpio. It wasn't just Pluto.

They were transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/plutino Ixion and transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/cubewano Quaoar.


Ixion's orbital period is around 250 years.

Quaoar's orbital period is around 286 years.


They's been in Scorpio from the mid1960's to the mid1990's.


I am very familiar with the energy with my having a Sun-Ixion-Quaoar conjunction in Scorpio. The orb of my Sun conjunct Ixion is only 5 minutes.

I was born October 29,1971.
Ixion and Quaoar were in Scorpio throughout the 1970's


I noticed one woman on this forum who made a thread about Venus in Scorpio, and she turned out to have a Venus-Ixion-Quaoar conjunction. She thought her Venus was unaspected.


Her Venus was in the same degree as my Venuse, and so her Venus conjunct the fixed star Unukalhai which is the Alpha Star of the Serpent constellation. It's said to have a Saturn/Mars and unfortunate influence. It's not a star that you want in connection to your chart.


Here is an Ephemeris that I made of Ixion and Quaoar.
They are in year increments.


Date | Ixion | Quaoar |
| | |
| LONG | LONG |
------------------------------------------
01 Feb 1960 | 25 li 28 Rx | 19 li 24 Rx |
01 Feb 1961 | 26 li 24 Rx | 20 li 36 Rx |
01 Feb 1962 | 27 li 21 Rx | 21 li 48 Rx |
01 Feb 1963 | 28 li 18 Rx | 23 li 0 Rx |
01 Feb 1964 | 29 li 14 Rx | 24 li 12 Rx |
01 Feb 1965 | 0 sc 11 Rx | 25 li 24 Rx |
01 Feb 1966 | 1 sc 8 Rx | 26 li 37 Rx |
01 Feb 1967 | 2 sc 5 Rx | 27 li 49 Rx |
01 Feb 1968 | 3 sc 2 Rx | 29 li 2 Rx |
01 Feb 1969 | 3 sc 59 Rx | 0 sc 14 Rx |
01 Feb 1970 | 4 sc 57 | 1 sc 27 Rx |
01 Feb 1971 | 5 sc 54 | 2 sc 40 |
01 Feb 1972 | 6 sc 52 | 3 sc 53 |
01 Feb 1973 | 7 sc 49 | 5 sc 6 |
01 Feb 1974 | 8 sc 47 | 6 sc 19 |
01 Feb 1975 | 9 sc 45 | 7 sc 31 |
01 Feb 1976 | 10 sc 42 | 8 sc 44 |
01 Feb 1977 | 11 sc 40 | 9 sc 57 |
01 Feb 1978 | 12 sc 38 | 11 sc 10 |
01 Feb 1979 | 13 sc 36 | 12 sc 23 |
01 Feb 1980 | 14 sc 35 | 13 sc 36 |
01 Feb 1981 | 15 sc 34 | 14 sc 50 |
01 Feb 1982 | 16 sc 33 | 16 sc 4 |
01 Feb 1983 | 17 sc 33 | 17 sc 18 |
01 Feb 1984 | 18 sc 33 | 18 sc 31 |
01 Feb 1985 | 19 sc 33 | 19 sc 46 |
01 Feb 1986 | 20 sc 33 | 21 sc 0 |
01 Feb 1987 | 21 sc 33 | 22 sc 14 |
01 Feb 1988 | 22 sc 34 | 23 sc 28 |
01 Feb 1989 | 23 sc 35 | 24 sc 42 |
01 Feb 1990 | 24 sc 36 | 25 sc 56 |
01 Feb 1991 | 25 sc 38 | 27 sc 11 |
01 Feb 1992 | 26 sc 40 | 28 sc 25 |
01 Feb 1993 | 27 sc 43 | 29 sc 40 |
01 Feb 1994 | 28 sc 46 | 0 sa 55 |
01 Feb 1995 | 29 sc 49 | 2 sa 10


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Glaucus
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posted February 18, 2011 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are certain Nodes in Scorpio that planets,points,angles in Scorpio can be conjunct. I believe that is something that should be aware of.

starting off with the Nodes in earliest degrees

This is Heliocentric South Eris Node in Scorpio

It moves up to 1 degree per century,and so it is associated with the collective
Aspects to Eris Nodes are more significant than aspects to Eris itself.

It can indicate collective matters involving diversity,equality,discord,controversy as well as evolutionary intensification.

Conjunctions to the Eris Node (whether north or south) are not easy to deal with.
None of the conjunctions to the transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate nodes are.


I have Sun conjunct Heliocentric South Eris Node with 10 minutes of arc, and so I am familiar with it.


Heliocentric South Eris Node

01 Jan 1971 | 5 sc 27 |
01 Jan 1972 | 5 sc 30 |
01 Jan 1973 | 5 sc 35 |
01 Jan 1974 | 5 sc 41 |
01 Jan 1975 | 5 sc 45 |
01 Jan 1976 | 5 sc 48 |
01 Jan 1977 | 5 sc 47 |
01 Jan 1978 | 5 sc 44 |
01 Jan 1979 | 5 sc 40 |
01 Jan 1980 | 5 sc 36 |
01 Jan 1981 | 5 sc 33 |
01 Jan 1982 | 5 sc 32 |
01 Jan 1983 | 5 sc 34 |
01 Jan 1984 | 5 sc 37 |
01 Jan 1985 | 5 sc 42 |
01 Jan 1986 | 5 sc 48 |
01 Jan 1987 | 5 sc 52 |
01 Jan 1988 | 5 sc 55 |
01 Jan 1989 | 5 sc 55 |
01 Jan 1990 | 5 sc 54 |
01 Jan 1991 | 5 sc 51 |
01 Jan 1992 | 5 sc 48 |
01 Jan 1993 | 5 sc 47 |
01 Jan 1994 | 5 sc 47 |
01 Jan 1995 | 5 sc 48 |
01 Jan 1996 | 5 sc 52 |
01 Jan 1997 | 5 sc 56 |
01 Jan 1998 | 6 sc 1 |
01 Jan 1999 | 6 sc 5 |
01 Jan 2000 | 6 sc 7 |
01 Jan 2001 | 6 sc 7 |
01 Jan 2002 | 6 sc 4 |
01 Jan 2003 | 6 sc 1 |
01 Jan 2004 | 5 sc 59 |
01 Jan 2005 | 5 sc 57 |
01 Jan 2006 | 5 sc 57 |
01 Jan 2007 | 5 sc 58 |
01 Jan 2008 | 6 sc 1 |
01 Jan 2009 | 6 sc 5 |
01 Jan 2010 | 6 sc 9 |

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posted February 18, 2011 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heliocentric South Mercury Node in Scorpio

it moves up no more than 1 degree per century

it's a collective Mercury energy

it has to do with collective matters involving thinking,communications,travel

I have Mercury conjunct Heliocentric South Mercury Node with 20 minutes of arc

Heliocentric South Mercury Node

01 Jan 1971 | 17 sc 59 |
01 Jan 1972 | 18 sc 0 |
01 Jan 1973 | 18 sc 0 |
01 Jan 1974 | 18 sc 1 |
01 Jan 1975 | 18 sc 2 |
01 Jan 1976 | 18 sc 2 |
01 Jan 1977 | 18 sc 3 |
01 Jan 1978 | 18 sc 4 |
01 Jan 1979 | 18 sc 4 |
01 Jan 1980 | 18 sc 5 |
01 Jan 1981 | 18 sc 6 |
01 Jan 1982 | 18 sc 6 |
01 Jan 1983 | 18 sc 7 |
01 Jan 1984 | 18 sc 8 |
01 Jan 1985 | 18 sc 8 |
01 Jan 1986 | 18 sc 9 |
01 Jan 1987 | 18 sc 10 |
01 Jan 1988 | 18 sc 11 |
01 Jan 1989 | 18 sc 12 |
01 Jan 1990 | 18 sc 12 |
01 Jan 1991 | 18 sc 13 |
01 Jan 1992 | 18 sc 14 |
01 Jan 1993 | 18 sc 15 |
01 Jan 1994 | 18 sc 15 |
01 Jan 1995 | 18 sc 16 |
01 Jan 1996 | 18 sc 17 |
01 Jan 1997 | 18 sc 17 |
01 Jan 1998 | 18 sc 18 |
01 Jan 1999 | 18 sc 18 |
01 Jan 2000 | 18 sc 19 |
01 Jan 2001 | 18 sc 20 |
01 Jan 2002 | 18 sc 21 |
01 Jan 2003 | 18 sc 21 |
01 Jan 2004 | 18 sc 22 |
01 Jan 2005 | 18 sc 23 |
01 Jan 2006 | 18 sc 24 |
01 Jan 2007 | 18 sc 24 |
01 Jan 2008 | 18 sc 25 |
01 Jan 2009 | 18 sc 26 |
01 Jan 2010 | 18 sc 27 |

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posted February 18, 2011 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heliocentric South Mars Node in Scorpio

It moves no more than 1 degree per century

It's a collective Mars energy

It's about collective matters involving assertion,passion,physical drive, violence


You definitely don't want a conjunction to this node (whether north or south). I read that they strongly figure in both hysterectomies and violence.


I have Mercury conjunct Heliocentric South Mars Node with 1 degree orb.

Heliocentric South Mars Node

01 Jan 1971 | 19 sc 20 |
01 Jan 1972 | 19 sc 20 |
01 Jan 1973 | 19 sc 21 |
01 Jan 1974 | 19 sc 21 |
01 Jan 1975 | 19 sc 21 |
01 Jan 1976 | 19 sc 22 |
01 Jan 1977 | 19 sc 23 |
01 Jan 1978 | 19 sc 23 |
01 Jan 1979 | 19 sc 23 |
01 Jan 1980 | 19 sc 23 |
01 Jan 1981 | 19 sc 24 |
01 Jan 1982 | 19 sc 24 |
01 Jan 1983 | 19 sc 25 |
01 Jan 1984 | 19 sc 26 |
01 Jan 1985 | 19 sc 26 |
01 Jan 1986 | 19 sc 26 |
01 Jan 1987 | 19 sc 27 |
01 Jan 1988 | 19 sc 28 |
01 Jan 1989 | 19 sc 28 |
01 Jan 1990 | 19 sc 29 |
01 Jan 1991 | 19 sc 29 |
01 Jan 1992 | 19 sc 29 |
01 Jan 1993 | 19 sc 30 |
01 Jan 1994 | 19 sc 30 |
01 Jan 1995 | 19 sc 31 |
01 Jan 1996 | 19 sc 31 |
01 Jan 1997 | 19 sc 32 |
01 Jan 1998 | 19 sc 32 |
01 Jan 1999 | 19 sc 32 |
01 Jan 2000 | 19 sc 33 |
01 Jan 2001 | 19 sc 34 |
01 Jan 2002 | 19 sc 34 |
01 Jan 2003 | 19 sc 34 |
01 Jan 2004 | 19 sc 34 |
01 Jan 2005 | 19 sc 35 |
01 Jan 2006 | 19 sc 36 |
01 Jan 2007 | 19 sc 36 |
01 Jan 2008 | 19 sc 37 |
01 Jan 2009 | 19 sc 37 |
01 Jan 2010 | 19 sc 38 |

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posted February 18, 2011 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also believe that it's important to point out Nodes that planets,points,angles in Scorpio could square


Heliocentric Neptune Nodes move up to 1 degree per century

They are collective Neptune energies

collective matters involving dissolution,idealism,imagination, deception


They are not easy energies to handle


I have the Heliocentric Neptune Nodes oppose my Lunar Nodes with 59 minutes minute of arc and sextile Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis with 14 minutes of arc

Heliocentric South Neptune Node

01 Jan 1971 | 11 aq 26 |
01 Jan 1972 | 11 aq 29 |
01 Jan 1973 | 11 aq 31 |
01 Jan 1974 | 11 aq 34 |
01 Jan 1975 | 11 aq 35 |
01 Jan 1976 | 11 aq 35 |
01 Jan 1977 | 11 aq 34 |
01 Jan 1978 | 11 aq 33 |
01 Jan 1979 | 11 aq 31 |
01 Jan 1980 | 11 aq 31 |
01 Jan 1981 | 11 aq 31 |
01 Jan 1982 | 11 aq 32 |
01 Jan 1983 | 11 aq 33 |
01 Jan 1984 | 11 aq 35 |
01 Jan 1985 | 11 aq 37 |
01 Jan 1986 | 11 aq 39 |
01 Jan 1987 | 11 aq 40 |
01 Jan 1988 | 11 aq 40 |
01 Jan 1989 | 11 aq 40 |
01 Jan 1990 | 11 aq 40 |
01 Jan 1991 | 11 aq 40 |
01 Jan 1992 | 11 aq 40 |
01 Jan 1993 | 11 aq 40 |
01 Jan 1994 | 11 aq 41 |
01 Jan 1995 | 11 aq 42 |
01 Jan 1996 | 11 aq 44 |
01 Jan 1997 | 11 aq 45 |
01 Jan 1998 | 11 aq 46 |
01 Jan 1999 | 11 aq 46 |
01 Jan 2000 | 11 aq 47 |
01 Jan 2001 | 11 aq 47 |
01 Jan 2002 | 11 aq 48 |
01 Jan 2003 | 11 aq 48 |
01 Jan 2004 | 11 aq 49 |
01 Jan 2005 | 11 aq 50 |
01 Jan 2006 | 11 aq 51 |
01 Jan 2007 | 11 aq 51 |
01 Jan 2008 | 11 aq 52 |
01 Jan 2009 | 11 aq 52 |
01 Jan 2010 | 11 aq 53

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posted February 18, 2011 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Heliocentric transneptunian dwarf planet Haumea Nodes

move up to no more than 1 degree per century

collective Haumea energy

collective matters involving fertility,creativity,female reproductive cycles as well as evolutionary intensification


Heliocentric South Haumea Node

01 Jan 1971 | 1 aq 35 |
01 Jan 1972 | 1 aq 38 |
01 Jan 1973 | 1 aq 41 |
01 Jan 1974 | 1 aq 41 |
01 Jan 1975 | 1 aq 39 |
01 Jan 1976 | 1 aq 36 |
01 Jan 1977 | 1 aq 32 |
01 Jan 1978 | 1 aq 30 |
01 Jan 1979 | 1 aq 30 |
01 Jan 1980 | 1 aq 32 |
01 Jan 1981 | 1 aq 35 |
01 Jan 1982 | 1 aq 40 |
01 Jan 1983 | 1 aq 46 |
01 Jan 1984 | 1 aq 50 |
01 Jan 1985 | 1 aq 54 |
01 Jan 1986 | 1 aq 54 |
01 Jan 1987 | 1 aq 52 |
01 Jan 1988 | 1 aq 49 |
01 Jan 1989 | 1 aq 45 |
01 Jan 1990 | 1 aq 42 |
01 Jan 1991 | 1 aq 42 |
01 Jan 1992 | 1 aq 44 |
01 Jan 1993 | 1 aq 49 |
01 Jan 1994 | 1 aq 54 |
01 Jan 1995 | 1 aq 59 |
01 Jan 1996 | 2 aq 3 |
01 Jan 1997 | 2 aq 5 |
01 Jan 1998 | 2 aq 4 |
01 Jan 1999 | 2 aq 1 |
01 Jan 2000 | 1 aq 55 |
01 Jan 2001 | 1 aq 50 |
01 Jan 2002 | 1 aq 47 |
01 Jan 2003 | 1 aq 47 |
01 Jan 2004 | 1 aq 50 |
01 Jan 2005 | 1 aq 54 |
01 Jan 2006 | 2 aq 0 |
01 Jan 2007 | 2 aq 6 |
01 Jan 2008 | 2 aq 11 |
01 Jan 2009 | 2 aq 13 |
01 Jan 2010 | 2 aq 13

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