posted February 19, 2011 07:22 PM            

This is what's happening in the sky right now:

Mercury,Mars,Ceres,and Neptune in Aquarius. There is the emphasis on independence,rebellion.

Sun was in Aquarius, but it just entered Pisces.
The Sun is not just in Pisces. It's conjunct a yet unnamed transneptunian dwarf planet candidate, 2007 OR10 "Snow White" in 1'21 Pisces which is an object that is similar to Eris with it being a scattered disk object and has an orbital period of over 500 years. As a transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate, it has to do with evolutionary intensification.

The Sun is also currently opposing transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/Orcus in 2'04 Virgo Retrograde. Orcus, a plutino, is named after the Etruscan God Lord of the Underworld. It has to do with oaths,promises,and it can be about death.
Sun oppose Orcus is like having Sun oppose Pluto.

Transiting Jupiter in 5'43 Aries square Geocentric Transneptunian Dwarf Planet Candidate Varuna Node in 6'22 Cancer

expansion,judgment in friction with collective cosmic order,judgment,justice as well as evolutionary intensification
it can indicate upheaval

Varuna was named after the Indian God of the Waters. He was depicted as carrying a noose, and he judged the souls of the drowned.
He used to be the supreme deity before being supplanted by Vishnu.

Transneptunian dwarf planet Orcus in 2'04 Virgo Retrograde oppose transneptunian dwarf planet candidate, 2007 0R10 "Snow White" in 1'21 Pisces

the fact that these are 2 transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates in opposition to each other indicates a period of major evolutionary intensification and upheaval

Of course, Sun is currently aspecting that opposition, highlighting it.

transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Varuna in 21'23 Cancer Retrograde is in opposition to Geocentric South Pluto Node in 21'32 Capricorn

cosmic order,justice,judgment at odds with past collective matters involving intensity transformation,regeneration,death

square transneptunian dwarf planet Eris in 21'18 Aries

in friction with diversity,equality,discord

collective major evolutionary intensification,upheaval

Expect discord when Eris is involved!

Pluto in 6'54 Capricorn is in opposition/conjunction to Heliocentric Varuna Nodes in 7'26 Cancer/Capricorn

intensity,transformation,regeneration,death at odds/merge with collective matters involving cosmic order,justice,and judgment

strong theme:

Varuna oppose Geocentric South Pluto Node
Pluto oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Varuna Nodes

intensity,regeneration,transformation,death, cosmic order,judgment,justice

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posted February 19, 2011 08:21 PM            

Uranus in 0'13 Aries is opposing/conjuncting Transneptunian dwarf planet candidate 2007 OR10 "Snow White" Perihelion/Aphelion axis in 0'50 Libra/Aries.

Jupiter in 12'15 Aries is opposing Saturn in 12'26 Libra

Major Upheaval can intensify during the Vernal Equinox when Earth will be conjuncting/opposing transneptunian dwarf planet 2007 OR10 "Snow White" Perihelion/Aphelion axis and opposing Uranus in 0'32 Aries.

Mars will be squaring Heliocentric Uranus Nodes in 14'04 Gemini/Sagittarius too! The start of Spring will be explosive.

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posted February 19, 2011 08:56 PM            

Perihelion = the point in the orbit of an object where it is nearest to the Sun
Aphelion = the point in the orbit of an object where it is farthest from the Sun

when an object aspects an objects' perihelion/aphelion axis, it is connected to the orbit of that object
an object aspecting it's own perihelion/axis it is very significant,especially if it conjuncts perihelion or aphelion

Perihelion/Aphelion axises are ultra-slow moving like the Heliocentric Planetary Nodes, and so they are associated with the collective.

Earth square the Saturn Perihelion/Aphelion axis in 0'21 Cancer/Capricorn
(A significant day of collective structure,discipline,restriction,limitation)

Jupiter will be conjuncting/opposing Jupiter Perihelion/Aphelion axis in 14'39 Aries/Libra and
opposing transneptunian dwarf planet Eris Perihelion/Aphelion axis in 14'29 Libra/Aries
(expansion,judgment combine with collective expansion,judgment and collective diversity,equality,discord)

Saturn will be conjunct/opposing Eris Perihelion/Aphelion axis in 14'29 Libra/Aries and opposing/conjuncting Jupiter Perihelion/Aphelion axis in 14'39 Aries/Libra
(collective structure,discipline,restriction,limitation combine with collective diversity,equality and collective structure,discipline,restriction,limitation)

Mercury will be squaring that
(and so communications involved)
TSQUARE

Pluto oppose/conjunct transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Sedna Perihelion/Aphelion axis in 6'01 Cancer/Capricorn and square transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Varuna Perihelion/Aphelion axis in 5'43 Aries/Libra
(intensity,transformation,death combine with collective environmental awareness,care-taking for humanity,victimization and collective cosmic order,judgment,justice)

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posted February 22, 2011 04:45 AM            

Pluto will get more advanced weaponry the moment Uranus enters Aries.

That is when the evil Saudi Arabian Regime and even the Communist Regime in China will be under threat. Iran is likely to change too and Israel could be forced to shift policy on Gaza.

Pluto square Uranus will be the aspect that produces the maximum change. We might even see terrific Solar Flares at this time so that repressive ELF Technology Equipment gets destroyed.

posted February 22, 2011 05:22 AM            

Therefore, Pluto is currently in the sign of its South Node, Jupiter's South Node,and Saturn's South Node.

Pluto was discovered in Cancer and conjunct its North Node in Cancer.

Pluto in Capricorn is currently oppose/conjunct Varuna Nodes in Cancer/Capricorn.

Today, Venus in Capricorn will be in exact opposition to Varuna in 21'21 Cancer, exact trine to Sedna retrograde in 21'31 Taurus, and exact square to Eris in 21'19 Aries.

Love,relationships,and values (Venus) at odds with cosmic order,judgment,justice (Varuna) ,in harmony with environmental awareness,care-taking for humanity, and victimization (Sedna) and in conflict with equality,diversity,and discord (Eris).

T-Square of Eris square the opposition of Venus and Varuna:
Love,relationships,and values (Venus) and cosmic order,judgment,and justice (Varuna) are at odds with each other, and diversity,equality,and discord (Eris) are in conflict with that to produce great stress,tension,and challenge of a highly evolutionary intensified nature.

Venus in Capricorn will also be in exact conjunction to Geocentric South Pluto Node in 21'34 Capricorn:
Love,relationships,and values merge with past collective transformation and power (Pluto).

With Venus aspecting Sedna,Varuna,Eris, and Geocentric South Pluto Node,
love,relationships,and values are ultra evolutionary intensified at this time.

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posted February 22, 2011 05:31 AM            

Pluto is currently in the sign of its South Node in Capricorn. It will conjuncts its South Node in 2017 which is when Uranus will conjunct Eris. I expect that there will be a time of significant transformation and even death. I think it could be a mass wave of governments,hiearchies tumbling down. Neptune will be squaring the Nodes of Uranus about that time. That could be the possibility of collective change that involves illusion,confusion,deception. It could also be the dissolution of differences too.

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posted February 22, 2011 05:48 AM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
The simple answer is that Pluto, the planet of Transformation, is in the Sign of Capricorn for the first time since its discovery. Hence the effects of breaking up old Orders [ruled by Capricorn] is in full swing, energized by Jupiter in the Fire Sign of Aries. In Mathematical Astrology, Pluto rules Aries and hence Pluto is being charged up to demolish negative Capricornian Structures like Arab Dictators.

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It is interesting to see how people deal with pluto, as if it can be dealt with in any way that is against its purpose.

Blockages will be removed, or caused depending on what the needed outcome is.

posted February 22, 2011 10:58 AM            

MBlake81, agree totally.

Coffee, Neptune will start its maximum watery impact when it enters 0.0 Pisces in 2012, its home sign for the first time since its discovery.

posted February 22, 2011 11:17 AM            

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Originally posted by iQ:

Coffee, Neptune will start its maximum watery impact when it enters 0.0 Pisces in 2012, its home sign for the first time since its discovery.

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posted February 22, 2011 09:32 PM            

And, as it begins to square my Aries Sun...

What effect Pluto will have worldwide while forming new relevant positions with Cancer, Libra, Aries and Capricorn...

posted February 22, 2011 09:45 PM            

In my humble opinion, the source of Pluto's great,vast power was that we were ignorant of other objects that existed beyond Neptune. We didn't know that Pluto was one of thousands of transneptunian objects. There is vast amount of transneptunian objects. Some of the objects are large objects. Some of those large objects are officially the astronomical equals of Pluto as dwarf planets, and those include Eris,Makemake,and Haumea.

I even believe that asteroid dwarf planet Ceres is highly underrated too. From Earth, Ceres has a far greater magnitude of brilliance than Pluto does.
In Astrology, the effects of fixed stars being great or not depended on how bright their magnitude was from Earth. Sirius isn't the largest of stars.
It just has the greatest magnitude of brilliance in relation to Earth.

I don't believe that just one factor is the only factor. Like with any event, I believe that there are multiple factors.

I checked out the start of the American Revolutionary War

I checked April 19, 1775
Lexington, MA
That's when and where the first shots occurred.

I also checked 9 AM because it was said to be in the morning

I won't check aspects to the Ascendant nor Midheaven because of no definite time

The first thing that I noticed is that Sun was in 29'16 Aries. It was in the last degree of the sign ruled by Mars, war.
Mars was in 26'15 Leo. The Sun and Mars were in each other's signs of rulership. That's a mutual reception.
It was a Sun-Mars mutual reception, and that is very significant and that fits with the starting and highlighting of aggression and violence.

Sun in 29'16 Aries was trine transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate Ixion in 00'48 Capricorn retrograde.
self expression in harmony with karma,2nd chances,evolutionary intensification
please note that Ixion is plutino which means that it orbits like Pluto for it has 2:3 orbital resonance with Neptune like Pluto does.
Ixion's orbit is only a couple of year apart from Pluto's orbit. It wasn't just Pluto that was in Capricorn, its fellow transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate,plutino Ixion was also in Capricorn. I don't think Pluto should get all the credit for being in Capricorn while its brother,Ixion doesn't get any credit for being in Capricorn too.

Mars was quincunx transneptunian dwarf planet Pluto in 26'41 Capricorn, and that would indicate intense aggression,violence that include transformation and death as well as evolutionary intensification

Pluto wasn't the only transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate in aspect to Mars
Mars in 26'15 Leo was square transneptunian planet Makemake in 28'06 Scorpio retrograde
assertion,passion in conflict with creativity,fertility,evolutionary intensification

Pluto was actually sextile Makemake in an evolutionary intensified generation aspect, and Mars was making hard aspects to that configuration, and so it emphasized the violence which was of a highly evolutionary intensified nature.

Venus was in 24'05 Taurus, and that put a strong emphasis on security,values. It was square Mars, and so it involved aggression and violence.
Venus in 24'04 Taurus was square transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate Quaoar in 24'43 Aquarius
love,relationships,values in conflict with inspiration,creativity,evolutionary intensification

Jupiter in 21'42 Taurus was about to square Quaoar in 24'43 Aquarius
expansion,judgment in conflict with inspiration,creativity,evolutionary intensification

Mercury was in 2'12 Aries, and so that fit with communications,media involving aggression,violence. It was in opposition to Saturn in 3'43 Libra Retrograde. That could involve limitations but also death. Saturn was the traditional ruler of death before Pluto was discovered.

Uranus was in 00'32 Gemini square the Lunar Nodes in 2'01 Virgo/Pisces. That can indicate emotional connections,karma involving change,revolution.

transneptunian dwarf planet Ixion in 0'48 Capricorn was trine/sextile the Lunar Nodes, and so the emotional connections,karma involve karma,2nd chances,evolutionary intensification

I believe that the planetary nodes are highly overlooked

I figured that there were some important planetary nodes being aspected when the American Revolutionary War started, and I was correct.

Pluto in 26'41 Capricorn was conjunct Geocentric South Saturn Node in 27'26 Capricorn.
Power,transformation merge with past collective structure,authority,restriction. This fits with breaking down,transformation involving government,hiearchy.

Pluto in 26'41 was squaring the Geocentric North Chiron Node in 27'16 Libra and the Geocentric South Chiron Node in 27'38 Aries as well as the Heliocentric Chiron Nodes in 27'34 Libra
Power, transformation in friction with collective wounds,healing,teaching. Please note that the Chiron Nodes are in Libra and Aries which signify collective wounds,healing,teaching that involve cooperation,harmony,aggression,and violence. The North Chiron Node in Libra is about working towards harmony,peace. The South Chiron Node in Aries is about releasing aggression,violence.

but yeah...
Pluto wasn't just in Capricorn. It was conjuncting Geocentric South Saturn Node and square the Chiron Nodes (Geocentric,Heliocentric)

Jupiter in 21'42 Taurus was square North Geocentric Sedna Node in 21'31 Aquarius and Heliocentric Sedna Nodes in 21'21 Leo/Aquarius
expansion,judgment in conflict with collective environmental awareness,care-taking for humanity,victimization,evolutionary intensification

Retrograde Saturn in 3'43 Libra was square Geocentric North Varuna Node in 2'56 Cancer and Heliocentric Varuna Nodes in 4'09 Cancer/Capricorn
structure,authority,restriction in conflict with collective cosmic order,judgment,justice,evolutionary intensification

Mercury in 2'12 Aries was squaring Geocentric North Varuna Node in 2'56 Cancer
communications,media in conflict with present collective cosmic order,judgment,justice,evolutionary intensification

Sun in 29'16 Aries was squaring Heliocentric Haumea Nodes in 28'48 Cancer/Capricorn
day of conflicting collective creativity,fertility,evolutionary,intensification

I also checked Right Ascension which is Equatorial Longitude

Uranus was in opposition to dwarf planet Makemake - '14 separating
independence,change at odds with creativity,fertility,evolutionary intensification

Sun quincunx transneptunian dwarf planet Makemake - '58 applying
self expression in strain with creativity,fertility,evolutionary intensification

Mars trine transneptunian dwarf planet Ixion - 1'33 applying
assertion,passion in harmony with karma,2nd chances,evolutionary intensification

Mars conjunct transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Orcus - 2'48 applying
assertion,passion merge with oaths,promises,evolutionary intensification

asteroid dwarf planet Ceres conjunct transneptunian dwarf planet Haumea - 1'47 applying
nurturing,mothering merge with creativity,fertility,female reproductive cycles,evolutionary intensification

Jupiter trine dwarf planet candidate Varuna - '33 applying
expansion,judgment in harmony with cosmic order,judgment,justice,evolutionary intensification

Neptune conjunct dwarf planet candidate Varuna - 1'37 applying
dissolution,idealism,inspiration merge with cosmic order,judgment,justice,evolutionary intensification

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posted February 22, 2011 11:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
I'm pretty much of the mind now that Uranus in Aries may be my favorite placement

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posted February 22, 2011 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
Well I'm aware that it isn't just one factor, but Pluto is a generational planet so it will create a big trend just like its cousins Neptune and Uranus.

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I disagree. I don't believe that Pluto is a planet. I believe that it's just a transneptunian dwarf planet that was prematurely made a planet because its discoverer Tombaugh happened to find it when Pluto happened to be on the ecliptic at the time while looking for Percival Lowell's Planet X. Pluto's inclination from the ecliptic is up to 17 degrees. Pluto is usually not on the ecliptic. Being on the ecliptic made it easier for Tombaugh to discover it.

Tombaugh discovered Pluto during a Sun in Pisces-Neptune opposition/contraparallel, and that indicated a time of deception,illusion,and confusion.

There truly was deception,illusion,and confusion. Pluto was thought to be Planet X and to be as large as our Earth when it was discovered in 1930 until 1978 when it was found to be much smaller than Earth's moon. After Pluto's true size was discovered, the search for Planet X continued. In the early 1990's, it was found that there were errors in the calculations of Neptune's mass. After that was discovered, it was found that it made up for the discrepancy of Uranus' orbit. There was no need for a Planet X. Percival Lowell was wrong. Tombaugh discovered Pluto by chance, and Pluto being on the ecliptic was a huge factor.

Pluto wasn't the only object that was stripped of its planetary status.

Ceres,Pallas,Juno,and Vesta were classed as planets for 40 years. Then they were stripped of their planetary status and were thrown into a new classification at the time - asteroids. Because Ceres' is a large object with it having a diameter of around 930 km and was recognized to have hydrostatic equilibrium, it was upgraded to the status of dwarf planet. Pluto was downgraded to the status of dwarf planet. Ceres finally became Pluto's equal in Astronomy. Pluto got the same treatment that Ceres did. It took the discovery of dwarf planet, Eris that led the astronomers coming up with a definition of a planet which led to new classifications, the promotion of Ceres,and the demotion of Pluto. Of course, it was not without controversy and discord. Fittingly, its discoverer, Michael Brown decided to name it after the Goddess of Discord. He even said that the name was so right for the object that it almost made him believe in Astrology.
Transneptunian objects, Makemake and Haumea joined the rank of dwarf planets.

If Pluto is a planet, then it would make sense for Eris,Makemake,Haumea,and Ceres to be planets too.
Even Sedna and Orcus ,which are larger than Ceres, can be planets too. Quaoar,Varuna,and Ixion aren't much smaller than Ceres. They can be planets.

All of those objects fit the criteria for dwarf planets because of their size which is connected to the ability to achieve hydrostatic equilibrium which leads them to be round.

Even as a dwarf planet, Pluto is an important influence in astrology. Dwarf planet doesn't mean low importance.
With that in mind, Pluto's fellow dwarf planet/candidates are not of low importance either. If Pluto is important in Astrology, then so are his fellow dwarf planet/candidates.

If astrologers don't recognize that. It would be no different from Vedic Astrologers who don't view Uranus,Neptune,and Pluto as important objects in Astrology.

You could say that the Western Astrologers are just a modern version of Vedic Astrologers in regards to being traditional and refusing to adapt to astronomical discoveries because it doesn't fit their view.

Pluto's fellow transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates can have generational influences that are significant as Pluto's.
Orcus and Ixion are plutinos, and so their orbital periods are highly similar to Pluto's.

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posted February 23, 2011 06:03 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
I think this thread is entirely relevant to what's going on, nowadays.

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