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Topic: When Someone Falls Head Over Heels...
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vertiver
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posted February 19, 2011 05:52 PM
  
Okay, knowflakes, what are some aspects that you think makes someone really fall head over heels for you? I think when you activate someone's chart ruler, that is a sure sign...Or when a personal planet hits their IC, maybe? IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360
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posted February 19, 2011 06:10 PM
Hey there,Do you mean totally falling in love? As in long-term commitment love? Or more like that *Whammo* feeling that hits you when you suddenly see someone? The big *Wham!* might have something to do with Uranus and a personal planet? Maybe the Sun, Mars, Venus? Sorry, I'm not enough of a pro to say for sure. To fall fully in love with someone? Sorry, you got me on that one!  Love to hear what others have to say. IP: Logged |
blugrey
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posted February 19, 2011 06:22 PM
I always get it when people's planets hit my 4th house and IC and my 7th house and DC.IP: Logged |
vertiver
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From: Firey Jupiter
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posted February 19, 2011 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
The big *Wham!* might have something to do with Uranus and a personal planet? Maybe the Sun, Mars, Venus? Sorry, I'm not enough of a pro to say for sure.
I'm talking about that one! How about when someone's Uranus conjunct your ASC.?
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Betty Boop
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posted February 19, 2011 07:04 PM
For me - it's a Moon/Venus/Mars thing.
The men who have been most into me have:
No. 1 Placement: Scorpio Moon (My Moon is in the 8th house and quintile Pluto) - Scorpio Venus, or Venus conjunct Pluto in a feminine sign ( My Venus is opposite Pluto in Taurus/Scorpio) - Scorpio Mars (My Mars is conj Neptune and sextile Pluto) ------- with Scorpio placements, their feelings are hugely intensified if their planet is closely conjunct my Pluto or SN -- but it is still a nice connection regardless of the degree ------- - Interchangeable Leo/Libra placements.. Sometimes it's Leo Sun/Moon - and Libra Mars/Venus.. other times it's Libra Sun/Leo Moon or Leo Mars.. or Libra Moon/Leo Mars..
I think this is because my Pluto is in the 5th house (Leo's house) and my Sun (Aries) is trine Leo.. and also my Sun is in the 11th house which might be energy that attracts Leo.
My Venus is likewise in the 11th.
My Mars is in the 7th house (Libra).... and my Sun is opposite Libra placements.
Anyhow lol
This ^^^ is about LOVE pure and simple..
If we are talking something more raw and physical... Men who were extremely sexually attracted to a point where it seemed scary... but NOT in love with me (and actually very dismissive and nasty towards me):
Mars opposite their Pluto (in natal) - huge problem! lol I feel sorry for men with this aspect. Mars (in Taurus) opposite MY own Pluto (in synastry) & conjunct my Venus --- Love/Hate BS. Venus in Aries square my Moon or Mars in Capricorn, sometimes conjunct my Sun --- again Love/Hate.. They want me but they don't, and apparently this makes them angry, which they like to take out on me.
(This is not *always the case though. I'm with a Taurus man now and he has several aspects that tone down this energy.. He is very Neptunian, so it doesn't apply for him -- but he's a rare exception lol)
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Another positive aspect I have noticed which is a good aspect for immediate friendship and -head over heels love- down the track, is.. Their Venus conjunct NN in natal (I have this myself).
Their NN in Taurus/Cancer/Libra (I think it suits the energy of my Taurus NN/Venus IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360
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posted February 19, 2011 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by vertiver:
I'm talking about that one! How about when someone's Uranus conjunct your ASC.?
Maybe someone has an idea about that? I would think so, however, the only person I know with that placement to me in synastry is my brother! Definitely *NO* *whammo* feeling there. Except me wanting to whack him upside his Libra head every now and again!  Curious about how Cupido might fit in to the whole Big Wham feeling. Doesn't Aphrodite cause that feeling too? Maybe Uranus causes that first rush, but it may not stick around too long as a steady feeling. Hey, I'm still a total amateur at this stuff. Trying to learn here as we all go along. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted February 19, 2011 09:05 PM
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Or when a personal planet hits their IC, maybe?
YES, this--I feel pretty intensely about people whose personal planets hit my IC...if it's not a romantic situation (I just met one I have this with who is a straight female and so am I), I still get an intense feeling like, "this person is part of my life!" I think anyone's personal planets tightly conjuncting any of the four angles.
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Lonake
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posted February 19, 2011 09:28 PM
Their Uranus on my Asc, they fall in love straight away.IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360
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posted February 20, 2011 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by Lucia23:
YES, this--I feel pretty intensely about people whose personal planets hit my IC...if it's not a romantic situation (I just met one I have this with who is a straight female and so am I), I still get an intense feeling like, "this person is part of my life!"I think anyone's personal planets tightly conjuncting any of the four angles.
Just curious, would you include Mercury as one of those personal planets? Sorry, still learning here, and I'm a little confused as to how Mercury would influence synastry. Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, even Jupiter and Saturn make sense, but what if someone's Mercury was on, say, your IC or MC? Is it just too fast and "light". Or does it leave its mark? Thanks! IP: Logged |
JohnFKennedy
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posted February 20, 2011 12:06 AM
The only time I've ever been deeply in love was when someone's moon and venus fell directly on my IC IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted February 20, 2011 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
The only time I've ever been deeply in love was when someone's moon and venus fell directly on my IC
That's like a Moon conj Moon/Moon conj Venus connection. I love those. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted February 20, 2011 01:07 AM
Lonake, I find someone's planets conjuncting my angles way more powerful than conjuncting my planets (other than my Sun)...i don't know why.IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20
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posted February 21, 2011 05:05 AM
"I always get it when people's planets hit my 4th house and IC and my 7th house and DC."I 2nd this...I feel in love with an Aqua who had his Mercury Conjunct my MC in Pisces (plus it was Trine my Sun/Asc, and Mars), Venus and ASC Conjuct my DC and (loosely) my Moon, and Moon Conjunct my IC in Virgo (plus we had Opposite Ascs, Trine Moons, and Trine Venuses). I'm still not over him to this day, I just haven't spoken to him or talked to him since June...so who knows how I would be if I actually saw him. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted February 21, 2011 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Their Uranus on my Asc, they fall in love straight away.
What about u? Did u find them attractive? IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted February 21, 2011 11:05 AM
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Just curious, would you include Mercury as one of those personal planets? Sorry, still learning here, and I'm a little confused as to how Mercury would influence synastry. Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, even Jupiter and Saturn make sense, but what if someone's Mercury was on, say, your IC or MC? Is it just too fast and "light". Or does it leave its mark? Thanks!
I would say it depends on the rest of the synastry and also more on the natal...but yeah, I think it might be a more light, excited, energized, "I'm happy to communicate with this person" feeling which wouldn't open the door to romantic love as much as the feeling of Moon-IC, Mars-DC or Jupiter-MC...BUT in a lot of cases, it would enhance your feeling of liking and caring about the person, and if there was other stuff in your charts or your lives that also promoted closeness, or that added an element of sexual attraction, it would definitely deepen the intellectual bond. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted February 21, 2011 11:18 AM
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I would think so, however, the only person I know with that placement to me in synastry is my brother! Definitely *NO* *whammo* feeling there.
Yes, increasingly I don't use synastry at all...or I use it a little, in this order:
1) What is happening in each natal
2) How is each person manifesting their natal in real life (for instance, does one person have only same-sex attractions? is one of them already in a 30-year marriage? etc)
3) Then you imagine how each natal would play out in ANY relationship
4) Then you look at the synastry to see how the potentials shown in ther charts might be triggering each other Every human being on the planet will have very powerful love and sex aspects in synastry with hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of others. Just mathematically, the vast majority of those people will be strangers...of the ones we meet, a lot of them will be of an age and sex that isn't a romantic match for us, or they will be related to us, or otherwise involved when we meet. Even between two people who are available for romance with each other, sexy synastry often just doesn't play out that way. Also, we each mathematically have an equal number of planets, angles, and astronomical objects in our charts, but we don't each have the same volume of romantic/sexual attractions. AND even though the natal can indicate how our loves lives tend to play out, sometimes two people will manifest the same natal aspect differently. I always feel a need to put in this disclaimer for the "He told me he really doesn't want me, but my Venus conjuncts his Mars so he does want me!" people. IP: Logged |
Deluded
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posted February 21, 2011 04:01 PM
I think Venus conjunct Chiron shows true love and also Venus conjunct Neptune synastry. I find that Moon/Pluto is overwhelmingly deep (but not always easy). I would definately agree with Uranus and feelings being sudden! IP: Logged |
vertiver
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From: Firey Jupiter
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posted February 22, 2011 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Deluded:
I would definitely agree with Uranus and feelings being sudden!
I dunno I can fall for someone so easy, it doesn't take much, but its nice at the moment because it seems like its getting reciprocated. All I know is that once you start to have really good sex with someone, it gets confusing... IP: Logged |
racole12
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posted February 22, 2011 07:17 PM
I agree with Lucia23... Last yr I approached looking at synastry this way and a lot of people on this forum gave me a lot of crap for it so I stopped reading. When it all comes down to it is that if something isn't showing up in the natal (plus with prog/transits) no matter how awesome the synastry is between two people nothing will play out... it just won't! <3 IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted February 22, 2011 07:33 PM
Personal planets, rulers of Venus, AC,DC aspecting angles or the other person's personal planets are biggies! The attraction between someone who has an Aquarius ascendant and who's Uraunus aspects the other's asc will have more of an impact than someone who's Uranus is not personalised and makes a conjunction to the other person's ascendant.Also completing a person...A planet in the sign of Aries for example that creates a grand trine with the other's sun trine venus in Leo and Sagittarius. But if you want to know if this attraction is significant...check out the composite in relation to each other's natal and the synastry. If there are connections to all 3 then this is a highly significant relationship. For example, my ex and I have an opposition... My Venus (my chart ruler), at 15 Virgo opposite his Mars at 16 Pisces.
Our composite ascendant is at 16 Virgo, which cements the attraction into a certified relationship...
To further reinforce this cement....our relationship began when Pluto was transiting at 16 Sagittarius. Another example is someone who's natal venus is trine the other's natal Moon and they both trine the composite Sun. You have
The natal ...what I am atttracted to...
The synastry....the attraction in magnetic force
The composite.......the definition of the attraction Sometimes you can literally see that one person gives love to the other in the relationship...This could be shown by the composite sun being in the same degree as that person's natal venus. You can see negative stuff too. Like composite mars squaring ome person's natal Moon... Perhaps arguments in the relationship very negatively affect this person's emotions. Or the composite Mars squares the other's Pluto ...he/she might feel abused or feel complelled to act abusively in the relationship. I am currently looking at this stuff in my own chart and it's fascinating! IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted February 22, 2011 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by Quinnie:
Personal planets, rulers of Venus, AC,DC aspecting angles or the other person's personal planets are biggies! The attraction between someone who has an Aquarius ascendant and who's Uraunus aspects the other's asc will have more of an impact than someone who's Uranus is not personalised and makes a conjunction to the other person's ascendant.Also completing a person...A planet in the sign of Aries for example that creates a grand trine with the other's sun trine venus in Leo and Sagittarius. But if you want to know if this attraction is significant...check out the composite in relation to each other's natal and the synastry. If there are connections to all 3 then this is a highly significant relationship. For example, my ex and I have an opposition... My Venus (my chart ruler), at 15 Virgo opposite his Mars at 16 Pisces.
Our composite ascendant is at 16 Virgo, which cements the attraction into a certified relationship...
To further reinforce this cement....our relationship began when Pluto was transiting at 16 Sagittarius. Another example is someone who's natal venus is trine the other's natal Moon and they both trine the composite Sun. You have
The natal ...what I am atttracted to...
The synastry....the attraction in magnetic force
The composite.......the definition of the attraction
So what if we take 2 people who have a lot of positive personal planets conjs in the synastry (total of 6 or 7), so that in the composite a lot of those personal planet conj still exist. Now when we take the natals and compare to the composite, there will be strong conj again.
Do you think those conj would lead to attraction? IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted February 22, 2011 07:51 PM
Yes I think so.
Personally I think that regardless of what we need from our natal chart, we can still enter into relationships that don't fulfill our natals....So yes great synastry cann attract us but it will only be recipricol or take form when the connections are made to the composite. There is no attraction in synastry without connection to the natal chart... and there will be no relationship without natal connections to both synastry and composite charts.Edit...There will not be a SIGNIFICANT relationship if there are not connections to all three... and the reason for this is that when a transit comes along it will then aspect not only the individual's chart, but the attraction (magnetic force), and the growing relationship. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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posted February 22, 2011 08:08 PM
I'm not sold on the composite at all and I might be alone in my opinion but oh well. The reason is because I've tested it on some very significant relationships (one of them was mine) and there was nothing special...some of the charts didn't even make more than 4-5 aspects and these people had been happily together for years. IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted February 22, 2011 08:18 PM
Benedict Moon, in the composite, did you check the aspects that the composite made with the individual's natal? Was there any correlation to the actual positions of the planets in the composite in comparison to positions of individual planets in the natals? Sorry if you have checked these things already... I'm completely sold on the composite theory. I just think that the composite has from be viewed from the perspective of the natals and synastry. It's interesting how fabulous contacts in synastry don't show up at all in composites and vice versa. Then sometimes when you add transits etc sometimes voila it makes sense.
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Benedict Moon*
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posted February 22, 2011 08:26 PM
I think I only tested that for fun with the relationship with my Ex, and from what I can recall...Saturn was on his mercury, uranus opposed my natal unaspected venus, and the composite moon was on my Venus. I'm still not convinced regardless, tbh, its just another thing in astrology that too many people freak out over....for nothing. IP: Logged |
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