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Topic: Placements that cause social hardships?
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woodenrosary
Newflake Posts: 8
From: new york
Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 27, 2011 05:55 AM
  
I'm young, but most of my life I've struggled with making connections with people and socializing. I am a little awkward I guess, I am hoping some day this will go away... maybe there will come a time where it will feel NATURAL for me to interact with people (even family members) and it won't feel forced anymore. I feel like I am not wired like everyone else... everything takes place internally for me. I live inside my own headspace  I was wondering if there is anything specific in astrology about having these problems? Thanks so much, and sorry if this whole thing was too personal or too revealing. IP: Logged |
littlecloud
Moderator Posts: 590
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posted February 27, 2011 06:19 AM
post your chart. maybe Saturn in the 11th house, to answer your question. IP: Logged |
lalalinda
Moderator Posts: 1233
From: nevada
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 27, 2011 06:25 AM
Hello woodenrosary! Welcome to LL  IP: Logged |
woodenrosary
Newflake Posts: 8
From: new york
Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 27, 2011 07:57 AM
Thanks for the welcome!I don't have a chart to post... I'm sorry. I am a newbie. All the information I have is my profile on astro.com Sun: Sagittarius (in house 6)
Moon: Taurus (in house 11)
Venus: Scorpio (in house 6)
Mars: Sagittarius (in house 6)
Jupiter: Scorpio (in house 5)
Saturn: Aquarius (in house 9)
Uranus: Capricorn (in house 8)
Pluto: Scorpio (in house 6)
True node (don't know what this one is but it's Sagittarius in house 6)
Major aspects:
Moon Opposition Mercury 7°00
Moon Opposition Jupiter 5°16
Mercury Sextile Uranus 4°00
Mercury Sextile Neptune 3°34
Venus Square Saturn 2°00
Venus Sextile Uranus 2°41
Venus Sextile Neptune 3°08
Venus Conjunction Pluto 3°24
Venus Quincunx Ascendant 2°13
Saturn Square Pluto 1°24
Saturn Trine Ascendant 0°13
Uranus Conjunction Neptune 0°27
Pluto Quincunx Ascendant 1°11
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racole12
Knowflake Posts: 886
From: the world is my home!
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted February 27, 2011 12:27 PM
What happened to Neptune and Mercury?I'm a Saggie Sun (in the 6th) with Taurus Moon (in the 11th) and I have social anxiety. (but I also have a Mercury in retro which might be part of it too) It makes me wonder if it's from the Sun and Moon being in signs that don't match in element or mode. I don't know... maybe someone can chime in here. It's going to be hard without seeing the actual chart. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
Knowflake Posts: 1830
From: Avendesora
Registered: May 2009
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posted February 27, 2011 08:09 PM
Venus Square Saturn looks like one indicator. Though looking at more of your aspects, I suspect it may be more because these people aren't on your level? IP: Logged |
MyFavoriteWeapon
Newflake Posts: 22
From: Hell's armpit.
Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 27, 2011 09:03 PM
Just the other day a classmate asked me why I chose not to interact with people, why I always seem to stick to myself and I replied by telling her that not only am I shy, but I like to assest a person and their charecter before intereacting with them. This quality used to make me feel very awkward, but looking back I'm glad its something I posess because it kept me away from alot of very harmful people. The truth is I do talk to people in class, I have a select group who I interact with, and I know everyone individually on a very psychological level. People talk to much, I think its more important to be the one listening. IP: Logged |
staborgi
Knowflake Posts: 389
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posted February 28, 2011 12:59 AM
I would look at what cusp Aquarius falls in your chart and the state of your 11th house and 11th house rulerIP: Logged |
staborgi
Knowflake Posts: 389
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posted February 28, 2011 01:04 AM
also you can save the image of your chart and post it to a site like photobucket and then here and then we can reply in a more informed way to your chart  I see that you have your moon in the 11th which means you really care about friendships and associations. But other placements and aspects might show a pattern of being a more inward person...in any case I noticed you have Venus square Saturn. I have Venus conjunct Saturn- this can be tough on relationships, but it gets better with age I noticed. Generally speaking Venus/Saturn hard aspects indicate tension in giving/receiving love in relationships. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
Knowflake Posts: 1830
From: Avendesora
Registered: May 2009
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posted March 01, 2011 03:52 PM
Well that sounds even more like sociable venus conjunct pluto in scorpio to me! Its not very isolating at all, it just cuts out alot of shallow water BS from your life. The awkwardness is coming from the saturn square, which I will concur gets better with age only because saturn rules time. IP: Logged |
Lioness
Knowflake Posts: 1748
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Registered: Mar 2010
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posted March 01, 2011 04:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
Well that sounds even more like sociable venus conjunct pluto in scorpio to me! Its not very isolating at all, it just cuts out alot of shallow water BS from your life. The awkwardness is coming from the saturn square, which I will concur gets better with age only because saturn rules time.
I have Saturn conjunct IC (so then also) square Dsc.... PLUS URanus/Pluto in the 7th..
If that doesnt scream issue's I dont know what does..
But Yes mine has gotten easier as I got older.. or Im just use to it and it doesnt phase me as much anymore... lol
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mochai
Knowflake Posts: 538
From: Charon
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 01, 2011 05:02 PM
To add about the sag sun combo with a taurus moon, it's supposed to be a very sensitive idealistic combo. It's fine when people are peachy keen and compassionate like they're supposed to be, but when people aren't it kind of floors us more than average. I'm prone to this. Just adding that to the picture. I'm also 5th house sag sun with 10th house taurus moon and leo ascendant. I do feel like I'm wired differently, but that could be many other things. I feel like I've gotten better at socializing but I feel like I've capitalized on my strengths better and feel more comfortable with who I am, taking ownership of even the negative.Here's a quick paragraph about it..
The combination of your Sun and Moon signs produces a rather warm, genial, and romantic individual. You are very idealistic. Almost to the extent that your ideology absorbs practical purposes. You are aspiring rather than ambitious, and you generally look for idealistic rather than realistic satisfactions in life. You never seem to be particularly concerned about everyday matters, such a making a living, working under the assumption that your needs will somehow be provided for, and usually they are. * You really have too much faith in people. Most of time people do respond to you as you had hoped and expected they would. When they don't, however, you really let it get under your skin and bog you down. You have so many dreams and illusions, but you really let it get you down when people are ugly or unkind, and the harsh realities of your environment start to close in on you. You can't seem to handle criticism or put downs well. * Your highly romantic nature is ardent, impulsive, loyal and devoted. I kind of need to protect myself and orient myself to get past the above behavior. I also have my merc stationary so I do take a little longer to figure out what I'm going to say, which is probably good or the neptune conj merc would start making stuff up and I'd never realize it. I also agree about the saturn sq venus bit. That's probably where it's coming from. It might help to see how you aspect the heliocentric uranian nodes, or if your sun is closely conj 14 degrees sag, which would make it conj the galactic attractor as well. That can make you feel really different and the polarizing effect is not good for your sun/moon combo. It also may help to know where your chiron is. Mine is retrograde in the 11th house (shows wounding). I know astrology is complex.. There's a whole other layer of nodes and aphelia/perihelia that can have an effect not to mention all the other things out there. IP: Logged |
Sweeter_Than_Apple_Pie
Knowflake Posts: 33
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Registered: May 2009
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posted March 02, 2011 12:10 AM
Saturn in the 11th is terrible
For me that is
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amowls**
Knowflake Posts: 128
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Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 02, 2011 12:23 AM
I'm awkward as hale too and I have Venus square Saturn, as well as Saturn opposite ASC.IP: Logged |
Lyra
Knowflake Posts: 277
From: London, UK
Registered: May 2009
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posted March 02, 2011 04:47 AM
My mother has almost exactly the same placements as you - Sun in Sag, Moon in Taurus and Venus in Scorp. She never enjoyed interacting with people (very obviously) - not even her nearest and dearest - family and close ones have had a very difficult time with her. I don't communicate with her any more because I get the feeling she just doesn't care, and most probably she doesn't.Although I find a lot of Sags VERY shy socially and difficult to get any information out of - when they're operating in a professional capacity they're fine but they have a professional face and a social face and those are very very different - it's like they're 2 different people, whereas I am pretty much the same whatever situation you find me in (lots of Aries/Pisces, so difficult to disguise emotions LOL). IP: Logged |
woodenrosary
Newflake Posts: 8
From: new york
Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 03, 2011 09:38 PM
Wow! I wish I had seen all these replies earlierI'm really new to astrology so I don't understand all this talk about houses and nodes and orbs, galactic attractor, etc. I do appreciate all the help though... Lyra, I'm sorry to hear that. I have a long time before I will be a mother, but I don't want to end up having problems giving love when I do have children. I think I'm also a little bit careless and indifferent by nature. I wouldn't say I have huge problems with my family, but for some reason, I just can't get them to understand me. And that makes me not want to be around them sometimes. I hope I do learn to give and receive love and get better at socializing. I don't want to be this kind of person, it's like a curse... IP: Logged |
TrueTaurus
Knowflake Posts: 79
From: California
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted March 04, 2011 02:52 PM
Hey, I sympathize with you.
I have the venus opposition saturn and saturn opposite my ascendant. I also have a 6th house and 12th house stellium. Your Venus in Scorpio isn't a fan of small talk and trivial relationships. My thought is that you may have trouble breaking out of your shell. It seems you'd be a naturally sociable person and crave it. What is your ascendant? Introverts like me need to make an extra effort to get out there. I try to open up first and this helps the conversation going. People are more willing to open up to you if you share something of yourself. I don't know how old you are and if you're into partying, but going to a club occasionally and getting drunk is fun, if you're 21+ that is. Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer IP: Logged |
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