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heavenlyhera
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From: Jax, Fl, US
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posted March 07, 2011 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heavenlyhera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not going to make this story long but I swear I know him. There is too many coincidences involving us. When he is talking I feel like I could stop what I am listening to and finish his speech. I know him. My major(s) are even the same as him. Which was not planned. I experienced similar experiences when I was a child as him. He wants to study a rare area of dream that is almost the opposite of Lucid Dreaming. It's awaking oneself in the slow wave sleep. I composed a letter to a Stanford Professor who researches Lucid Dreams asking him to run brain scans on me waking up during this state. I told him as long as I had a journal of who I was I'd be ok. It brings you out of a coma like state. You don't know who you are when you're tossed back into your body in the real world and you have to make sense of who you are out of nothing. I swear it feels like birth. I wanted to see the scans because I wanted to do scientific research on people in comatose states with the research on this stuff.

Our synastry chart shows our Ascs (Aqua) conjuncting. His Leo Sun conjuncts my S.N. and D.C., His Moon (taurus) conjuncts my IC, My moon (Gemini) conjuncts his IC, His Saturn Conjuncts my NN, I noticed his vesta conjuncts my DC exactly. And my Vesta conjunct his ASC exactly, and a lot more.
I have a packed 12th house Venus, Mercury, Neptune, Uranus, Saturn. And it puts those planets of mine in his 12th house.

our Synastry chart makes a symmetrical butterfly. is that common?

Our composite chart have Aqua rising conjct. Saturn at 0 degree orb and we have Taurus Moon conjunct IC. Neptune and NN conjunct in Pisces. Isis and Osiris conjunct exactly on top of midheaven in Scorpio.

I feel like when I read his stuff that he helps me tap into a place I've been looking for since I was a child.

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mochai
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From: Charon
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posted March 07, 2011 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know people discount people who come up with such ideas, but everything you described with the synastry sounds insane. You should look into it more with a psychic or doing hypnotic regression or lucid dream work.

Also the research part.. uber cool.. I have a feeling you'll do well in your field, but that could just be an ego impression.

I just got done reading the book of the guy who did his doctoral dissertation on lucid dreaming at Stanford. Did he become a professor there?

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heavenlyhera
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posted March 08, 2011 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heavenlyhera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe so. It's showing a huge department at Stanford that studies it. And I've read that some professors released work in it too. But you know who I am talking about then. I have the same book. There are a few others I have. I went to this used book store and also found this older book from ivy league school research that has info on OBE.

Yeah I usually wouldn't say that I think I have Karmic ties with someone well known. But I honestly do. I think I might have been a student of his at one point possibly.

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bethcarliseh
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posted March 11, 2011 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bethcarliseh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you dont have any ties with carl jung. you have just become one of his patients through his work. transference.

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mochai
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posted March 11, 2011 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bethcarliseh:
you dont have any ties with carl jung. you have just become one of his patients through his work. transference.

Wow, was that a psychic insight? You seem very sure of yourself in that assertion.

I'm not saying transference or whatever that is might not exists depending on your definition, but I wouldn't call her a patient. It's psychologically debasing and it's not like Jung had all the answers anyway. No one here is perfect.

Through soul evolution we go through all sorts of positions and relationships from being a kings to beggars (over many many millenia). Sure it would be rare, but she is only thinking she was one of his students. Her chart supports that possibility.

Sorry if some of this was too harsh and brusque, but could you be any nicer?

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nordicsoul
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posted April 17, 2016 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bethcarliseh:
you dont have any ties with carl jung. you have just become one of his patients through his work. transference.

that was my initial thought. many of his patients become psychiatrist.

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nordicsoul
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posted April 17, 2016 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mochai:
Wow, was that a psychic insight? You seem very sure of yourself in that assertion.

I'm not saying transference or whatever that is might not exists depending on your definition, but I wouldn't call her a patient. It's psychologically debasing and it's not like Jung had all the answers anyway. No one here is perfect.

Through soul evolution we go through all sorts of positions and relationships from being a kings to beggars (over many many millenia). Sure it would be rare, but she is only thinking she was one of his students. Her chart supports that possibility.

Sorry if some of this was too harsh and brusque, but could you be any nicer?


many of his patients became famous colleagues. dont see why this is offensive or a demeanor.. not from Jungian perspective. himself was into a deep depression for 3 years... in his terms a patient would be someone who provides many insights to him.

actually i was listened today an interview made to him and he said that he could anticipate all the nazism catastrophe thanks to the visions and dreams of some of his patients. he always stated that he learned about his patients. so being a patient was nothing to be ashamed or of inferior quality at all...

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