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Astrotobe
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posted March 24, 2011 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrotobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey new family!...this is my first post. Yes I'm pretty excited....lol.

My boopie and I are Sextile Venus's: Him: Cancer Me: Virgo
But his venus and my mars is square.... Which is a Cancer & an Aries

Which has a stronger effect on long term relationships?

We both have Mars in Aries lol does that count for something?

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Betty Boop
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posted March 24, 2011 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This isn't too bad... It could even be positive and sexually attractive..
But what other aspects do you have?
Anything involving your mutual Suns/Moons/ACs/Saturns/Plutos?

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amowls**
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posted March 24, 2011 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How close are the orbs? Because if they aren't actually in aspect, then they're just self manifested and don't really interact at all.

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Astrotobe
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posted March 24, 2011 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrotobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Betty I was just about to let that be known. Ok so here's our other good long term relationship interaspects

Me/Him
Libra/Leo Suns
Libra/Gemini Moons
Virgo/Cancer Venus
Aries/Aries Mars
Im pretty sure the other planets are the same because we're born in the same year.

Cancer/Cancer Chiron Venus Conjunction
Cancer/Scorpio Chiron Pluto Trine
Virgo/Cancer Venus Chiron Sextile
Scorpio/Cancer Pluto Chiron Trine (Him/Me)
Cancer/Cancer Chiron Chiron Conjunct

You think that because we have alot of conjuncts that our tolerance level will by high where Venus/Mars is concerned?

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Astrotobe
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posted March 24, 2011 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrotobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know his AC, he doesnt know his birth time. But his Dwad (if I'm saying that correct) is a Libra.

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Astrotobe
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posted March 24, 2011 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrotobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amowls**:
How close are the orbs? Because if they aren't actually in aspect, then they're just self manifested and don't really interact at all.

8 degrees

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vertiver
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posted March 24, 2011 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is no point to synastry without a birthtime.

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Astrotobe
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posted March 24, 2011 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrotobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those are all aspects within 8 degrees except for Moon & Moon.

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Astrotobe
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posted March 24, 2011 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrotobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vertiver:
There is no point to synastry without a birthtime.

Ok, well generally speaking...do you know which aspect tends to matter the most in long term relationships?

edit: he was born in the mid morning, that's all he knows.

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Lonake
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posted March 24, 2011 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vertiver:
There is no point to synastry without a birthtime.

Untrue. There are many instances where obtaining a t.o.b. is impossible.

To the OP, the more birth information you have, the more information the astrologer can give about the natal or the synastry, but a basic birth date will still shed light on many personality aspects.

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amowls**
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posted March 24, 2011 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8 degrees is kind of wide. Hell, 8 degree square/sextile doesn't even count.

Tell me the exact degrees of each planet because then I can tell you which aspects matter the most to you.

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Astrotobe
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posted March 24, 2011 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrotobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
& I'm assuming Lonake that that's because of the the houses?

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Astrotobe
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posted March 24, 2011 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrotobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amowls**:
8 degrees is kind of wide. Hell, 8 degree square/sextile doesn't even count.

Tell me the exact degrees of each planet because then I can tell you which aspects matter the most to you.



Hmmm well in a 5 degree orb the square is there.

The Venus & Venus was never in aspect with each other. Neither is the Moon/Moon(Thanks guys)

& to answer the Pluto question in 5 degree orbs:
Me/Him
Venus/Pluto Virgo/Scorpio
Neptune/Pluto Capricorn/Scorpio
Pluto/Pluto Scorpio/Scorpio
Chiron/Pluto Cancer/Scorpio

Him/Me
Pluto/Neptune Scorpio/Capricorn
Pluto/Sun Libra/Capricorn


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Astrotobe
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posted March 24, 2011 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrotobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amowls**:
How close are the orbs? Because if they aren't actually in aspect, then they're just self manifested and don't really interact at all.

Ok so if they're not in aspect we'll notice those qualities in each other but we wont feel the energy they manifest per say?

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Astrotobe
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posted March 24, 2011 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrotobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With my time accurate & his at 12:00

Me
Sun 17°10' Libra
Moon 10°01' Libra
Mercury 19°22' Libra
Venus 06°38' Virgo
Mars 02°00' Aries
Jupiter 05°48' Gemini
Saturn 27°12' Sagittarius
Uranus 27°34' Sagittarius
Neptune 07°33' Capricorn
Pluto 11°23' Scorpio

Him
Sun 15°12' Leo
Moon 18°29' Gemini
Mercury 19°55' Leo
Venus 00°26' Cancer
Mars 09°01' Aries
Jupiter 02°39' Gemini
Saturn 26°16' Sagittarius
Uranus 27°22' Sagittarius
Neptune 07°52' Capricorn
Pluto 09°43' Scorpio

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Lonake
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posted March 24, 2011 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astrotobe:
& I'm assuming Lonake that that's because of the the houses?

House placement, Asc, House rulers.
Generally, it's v. acceptable to have one person's tob and not the other. Ideally you would have it for both, but it's not completely necessary. I hear that in England it's very difficult to get a time of birth (and at times impossible), for example.

And there's always chart rectification, where the astrologer looks over the natal given dates, location and ideally times of key events in the person's life. So that's another avenue to explore.

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Astrotobe
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posted March 24, 2011 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrotobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
House placement, Asc, House rulers.
Generally, it's v. acceptable to have one person's tob and not the other. Ideally you would have it for both, but it's not completely necessary. I hear that in England it's very difficult to get a time of birth (and at times impossible), for example.

And there's always chart rectification, where the astrologer looks over the natal given dates, location and ideally times of key events in the person's life. So that's another avenue to explore.



Wow....do you know a website that could give me the natal chart of events or interpretations? If not what words should I look for?

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vertiver
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posted March 25, 2011 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh no, you should really get a guess on his ASC. Leo Sun with Gemini Moon equals raging Narcissist. I know all too well, I dated one and my Dad also is a Leo Sun with Gemini Moon. A Leo Sun with either a water or Earth moon tones down that narcissism...

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Astrotobe
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posted March 25, 2011 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrotobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vertiver:
Oh no, you should really get a guess on his ASC. Leo Sun with Gemini Moon equals raging Narcissist. I know all too well, I dated one and my Dad also is a Leo Sun with Gemini Moon. A Leo Sun with either a water or Earth moon tones down that narcissism...
Actually, I can sense those qualities in him but surprisingly he isn't proud of them. If I address it he's pretty remorseful and knows how to channel it into his hobbies most of the time.

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posted March 25, 2011 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astrotobe:

Wow....do you know a website that could give me the natal chart of events or interpretations? If not what words should I look for?

Lots of them, here is a link to a thread on here from a while back, http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006272.html & http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006272-5.html

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amowls**
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posted March 25, 2011 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun sextile Sun (2)
Sun trine Moon (1)
Sun sextile Mercury (2)
Moon opposite Mars (1)
Moon square Neptune (3)
Mercury sextile Sun (4)
Mercury trine Moon (1)*
Mercury sextile Mercury (0)
Venus trine Neptune (1)
Mars square Venus (1)
Mars sextile Jupiter (0)
Neptune square Mars (2)


These are all your important aspects.
I'd say the ones that define your relationship the most are the Sun trine Moon, Moon opposite Mars, Mercury trine Mars, and Mars square Venus.

This is great synastry. There are enough harmonious aspects balanced with harder ones to give the relationship spice. Moon opposite Mars and Mars square Venus are H-O-T.

You can google each aspect. Just search "venus square mars" etc.

Although his moon placement may not be accurate because you don't know his birthtime, so I starred the aspect that is probably not that close.

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feitlebaum
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posted March 25, 2011 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for feitlebaum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My boyfriend and I have Venus/Venus and Venus/Mars conjunct, and we started off as **** buddies! Our relationship doesn't look too great on Synastry (moons in squared signs, tons of Saturn squares) though.

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Astrotobe
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posted March 27, 2011 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrotobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amowls**:
Sun sextile Sun (2)
Sun trine Moon (1)
Sun sextile Mercury (2)
Moon opposite Mars (1)
Moon square Neptune (3)
Mercury sextile Sun (4)
Mercury trine Moon (1)*
Mercury sextile Mercury (0)
Venus trine Neptune (1)
Mars square Venus (1)
Mars sextile Jupiter (0)
Neptune square Mars (2)


These are all your important aspects.
I'd say the ones that define your relationship the most are the Sun trine Moon, Moon opposite Mars, Mercury trine Mars, and Mars square Venus.

This is great synastry. There are enough harmonious aspects balanced with harder ones to give the relationship spice. Moon opposite Mars and Mars square Venus are H-O-T.

You can google each aspect. Just search "venus square mars" etc.

Although his moon placement may not be accurate because you don't know his birthtime, so I starred the aspect that is probably not that close.



Thanks

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Astrotobe
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posted March 27, 2011 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrotobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by feitlebaum:
My boyfriend and I have Venus/Venus and Venus/Mars conjunct, and we started off as **** buddies! Our relationship doesn't look too great on Synastry (moons in squared signs, tons of Saturn squares) though.

Yea those relationships in my case as well as everyone I know rarely work. Its more like a "I dont want you to be with anyone else" tionship

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