posted March 30, 2011 05:10 PM            

I have one bad news and one very bad news.
I went through nearly every possible ideal perfect partner natal chart element combination's for those who have "Moon square Venus" in their natal chart.

First of all i am not gonna quote anything about this aspect's explanation.
You can read from; www.cafeastrology.com
or www.astro.com

as you read from there and know, people with these aspect including me are doomed to have more challenges than compatible moon-venus combination owners. This is a "FACT". Even how far you achieved to balance the incompatible energy coming from them,you had/have still that imcompatibleness hidden in you. At least as the time goes by you learned to "desire the one you get along or get along with the one you desire". But still it is not real you. SO this is unfair anyway..

Now for the chart. Lets assume there is chart which is nearly perfect match for you which is created around ten year circle you born. So lets assume this chart "exists". In order to have a perfect match, the partner also HAS TO have moon-venus square aspects.
Lets see why.
Lets assume your square includes-Fire and Water
In order to get sextiles, trines or conjunctions in synastry, your partner square must include Fire-Water(for the conjunction and trine) or (lets assume quincunx is acceptible)Air-Water(for sextile).

So it is valid for every element combination you have.. as you see, combinations are between incompatible elements.

if you got the point then the big problem arises. Before the explanation->.. Moon square Venus people relationships are not very long or "generally" in harmony. Because when these people fell in love with their "moon(it is the general case)" as the time goes by and feelings got softened they tend to seek "Venus" which is incompatible with their partner generally. One way or another they understand they are not very compatible(i did not say incompatible). Because Moon(emotions) and Venus(desires) are at cross-purposes.

İf we get back to point where problem arise.. So as you see for perfect match both partners HAVE TO HAVE "MOON-SQUARE-VENUS" in their natal chart so their desires and emotions can have good match. First of all In synastry, Moon-Venus good combination is more important than Moon-Moon or Venus-Venus compatibility. so when they have both square in their natal chart (which is compatible in synastry ofc) they can be really happy but... the problem is the partners are prone to emerge their non-harmony energies when in relationship. Even they are compatible the partners will have challenges in theirselves. It means that these people are problematic in their nature. if we both partners are problematic then how can it be a perfect love? soon or later problems will arise even in a perfect synastry or composite chart. I AM NOT SAYING THEY CAN NOT BE HAPPY.. I AM JUST SAYING THAT SOMEWHERE INNER SIDE of partners they will know something is not perfect. IT can be really good relationship but it will never be as Neptune demands . Moon-Venus opposition in natal chart people dont have these problems because when they found someone with Moon-Venus conjunction combination and trines one of your opposite planets and other planet will take sextile also(sextile + trine = opposition). So it is good.

I have a Moon-Square-Venus also by the way
Conclusion: WE ARE DOOMED NOT TO HAVE an EPİC RELATİONSHİP FOR LONG.

-Just date with two partners one of who will satisfy your moon and the other one will satisfy your Venus.

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

posted March 30, 2011 06:10 PM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:

Also people with chiron in 5th or 7th house(if chiron is in cancer or pisces it gets worse) and Ceres hard aspects to Venus and Uranus may also be doomed to fail.

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posted March 31, 2011 03:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Cardinal Arbiter:
I was going to read this, but then I realized I have Venus opposite Moon, not square.

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posted March 31, 2011 10:35 AM            

I must say I've never linked my nor his problematic relationship past NOR our current problematic interaction to Ceres/Uranus. But what I do know is that for both of us it's the second most true AND unstable relationship we ever had - and I'm almost 40 years old so I know what I'm talking about
The description of Ceres/Uranus stressful aspect fits us both very well.

So if I get it...;

I've a Ceres/Uranus square exact in natal. (Air-Water)
He has a Ceres/Uranus quincunx pretty exact in natal. (Air-Water)

My Ceres trine his Uranus.
His Ceres trine my Uranus.

posted March 31, 2011 12:46 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
I can definitely agree with everything you say, but.. in the context of Ceres/Uranus!

I must say I've never linked my nor his problematic relationship past NOR our current problematic interaction to Ceres/Uranus. But what I do know is that for both of us it's the second most true AND unstable relationship we ever had - and I'm almost 40 years old so I know what I'm talking about
The description of Ceres/Uranus stressful aspect fits us both very well.

So if I get it...;

I've a Ceres/Uranus square exact in natal. (Air-Water)
He has a Ceres/Uranus quincunx pretty exact in natal. (Air-Water)

My Ceres trine his Uranus.
His Ceres trine my Uranus.

that's a fact.

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posted April 06, 2011 12:32 PM            

-Just date with two partners one of who will satisfy your moon and the other will satisfy your Venus.

posted April 08, 2011 02:35 PM            

Does this sound like a decadent relationship-problem?
Wrong!
Yeah, at first I thought it was sweet and after a talk with my best friend about how badly HE needs it to take care of me I was convinced enough to put my recovery in his hands. Happy he!

Since then I wake up every morning with a hangover as regards to this whole caring stuff.
The effect of these awakenings>?
Pfffffft!

This is not the first time that I get totally out of control when it comes to 'care after surgery' and even 'before surgery'!!

posted April 08, 2011 03:33 PM            

what you are getting at is accurate but to fatalistic, you must have strong virgo energy in you, if you do it really shows.

anyway, i disagree with your solutions and what it takes to make it work.

i know me and my partner have traits of both signs in our moon and venus.

for example, i have moon in aries, sun and asc in leo. and to top it off i have moon in the 9th, sun in the 1st, mc in aries, and 3 outer planets in the 5th. Very firey.

she has venus in aries, mars in sagittarius and jupiter in aries, and her venus happens to conjunct my moon by 1 orb, so i meet all the fire desire. i dont have any personal planets in capricorn (just outer ones) but i have alot of saturn/cappy energy, and most people see it that have come to know me, often i am told i seem very mature, or serious in disposition. i have saturn square venus, and saturn square moon.

my partner has moon in capricorn and descendant in capricorn. her mars conjuncts saturn, and a possibly wide square to saturn of 7 orb to her venus.

my saturn squares her venus and conjuncts her dsc, so she gets the saturn energy and the cappy energy, im just NOT an executive businessman or CEO of some company, thats nto all of who i am inside.

she often says the things she loves about me, and if i look at what she says astrologically, they are usually my leo/saturn/aries and libra traits. i'd say my virgo mars and mercury backs up the earthy partner she needs (DSC/Moon) especially since her mars and 7th house ruler are in the 6th.

i also have mars trine saturn and that saturn is in my 5th.

as for her, well, i see her meeting both my desires and needs. astrologically in her chart there isnt any libra planets or 7th house planets. she however has mars-uranus aspect, and sun in aquarius, which meets my DSC in aquarius energy, and since that sun sign is trine by sign to my venus, i get that air energy, aswell as her mercury in aquarius. she has a ballance of being sweet and kind, venusian, but shes also highly independant (aqua sun) and the venus in aries, and mars sagittarius.

she has venus square ascendant (asc in cancer) so that may be part of it, also to say her Venus trines my asc and opposes my venus so i get venus energy through her maybe that way..

what about my needs? my venus and moon square ALOT of planets (moon square Jupiter, saturn, neptune, and possibly a wide one to uranus, and opposite venus) (venus makes the same aspects except forthe square to neptune) i need saturn/capricorn energy, she has that earthyness. and of course the uranian energy. as for jupiter, welll, sag mars and 9th house sun does it.

i think for people with venus-moon in oppositeo r square signs, its HARDER to find someone who can fit both your needs and wants, there is no such thing as perfect, a big part of this comes down to the individuals and how they incorporate the energies together. the more seperate they make the energies within themselves, the harder it will be to find harmony and happyness in a relationship.

posted April 08, 2011 05:09 PM            

I forgot to mention that my Uranus (in exact square to my Ceres) is the ruler of my 6th

posted April 08, 2011 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
Found the solution.

-Just date with two partners one of who will satisfy your moon and the other will satisfy your Venus.

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

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posted April 08, 2011 09:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Guys, is it true that Moon square Venus actually IS a cheater aspect? I often read that people who have that aspect tend to go sideways to meet their needs/wants... as Lonake confirmed.

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posted April 09, 2011 03:45 AM            

Ami, thank you, Darling. <3

I think of you, too.

posted August 07, 2011 12:09 PM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
Found the solution.

-Just date with two partners one of who will satisfy your moon and the other will satisfy your Venus.

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

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really? does this apply to me? even in fixed signs? i can't imagine it at all. venus in taurus 7th square moon in leo 10th. what would the separate desire be anyways? i think i'm following my moon at the moment, my partner is a leo sun.

posted August 07, 2011 02:24 PM            

BUT i think it's in YOURSELF so when you notice it and see the problem, you can fix it if you want, by yourself and then there is no any rules that partner should be like this or that.

I'm just working with this aspect, it's hard but i don't think it's that bad what you say, it's only about giving a balance for between your moon and venus which means knowing yourself and what you want

posted August 07, 2011 04:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
I still can't tell if he was actually being fatalistically serious, or if alot of this was tongue-in-cheek...LOL. Anyways, the good news with this is that most people are not that one-dimensional that you wouldn't be able to satisfy both sides at all. And also, it comes down to identification too. As a Cancer, I pretty much own my Moon so its not a priority for me to find someone with Virgoan traits anyways. It would be a nice plus, but I don't have high expectations for that...LOL. As a Taurus (Sand) maybe you don't need to find your Taurean Venus because its already a huge part of you as your ruler. Hence, you not seeing seperate needs to begin with.

Anyways, my opinion remains the same as earlier: integrating them (which is difficult) will pretty much solve everything. Find a common point.

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i think he iz serious lol. hmm.. i wonder if moon venus have high expectations of partners that they're too hard to find in one. but that's a good point yeh! my moon conjuncts my cancer mc too btw and venus conjunct dc. so i also have mc square dc and ruler of mc square ruler of dc gah!