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Scorpionic_Web
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posted April 02, 2011 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic_Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone here ever knowingly had a romantic connection with someone where either you or your partner has had a Venus with no aspects to the other individual's personal planets?

If anyone here has followed my Scorpio/Taurus thread in Soul Unions, you're aware that I'm currently infatuated with a Taurus woman with Venus in Gemini.

Our synastry has a lot of Mars and Jupiter activity, but her Venus makes no aspects to any of my inner planets.

I once had a long drawn out "dance" with a Taurus with a Gemini Venus. But her Venus at least made a trine to my Libra Moon. I had a suspicion that she wanted me for years. We had sex, but I wasn't interested in her romantically, and we've remained good friends since then.

I've also had three intense relationships with Gemini Moon women.

It doesn't make much sense that I would attract Gemini influences until I try to rationalize my House placements. I have a 3rd house stellium in airy Libra, with the 3rd house naturally associated with Gemini. All of these Gemini placements fall into my 11th house of "love received". The 11th house, and its association to Aquarius, is undoubtedly of influence due to my Aquarius Descendant.

Anyway, back to my question, can anyone speak of personal relationships involving an unaspected Venus in synastry?

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Ami Anne
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posted April 02, 2011 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*I* have an unaspected Gemini Venus,myself.
It is in the 7th house.

For me, I can gauge ALL my attraction,intensity of it or lack of it on my Venus.
If someone aspects it with his Pluto ,for example,I feel attraction .
If someone aspects it with his Venus,I feel love.
If someone aspects it with his Saturn, I feel picked at .I feel coldness where there should be love
I can feel a man's aspects to my Venus ,without looking at the charts,usually.

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Scorpionic_Web
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posted April 02, 2011 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic_Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, that doesn't sound very hopeful for me.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 02, 2011 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well,Scorpionic Web,*I* have an unaspected Venus in my natal so I am not YOUR particular case.
I gave my experience as a vantage point .
It would not be an exact fit.
I feel badly,now ,that I did lol

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Scorpionic_Web
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posted April 02, 2011 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic_Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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For me, I can gauge ALL my attraction,intensity of it or lack of it on my Venus.


Ami, I know you were speaking of your own unaspected venus, but this quote regarding your synastries had resonated with me. Don't feel bad. You're only telling your side of things, and I appreciate it.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 02, 2011 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Scorpionic Web
From what I see of you on here,you appreciate truth in a Scorpio kind of way.
However, it is NOT analogous to your situation as a direct fit as an unaspected planet has it's own unique qualities .

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posted April 02, 2011 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually,Scorpionic Web
I have a feeling she IS interested in you

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posted April 02, 2011 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was in love to someone once a time but this was only love from me. My venus conj N.N conj mars was hard aspected from his chart but my BML/ceres was in conj to his venus only.....

I cant be in love in people who not are in connection to my venus. The stronger connection as better...

I'm also really interested to know as you about people in love without connection to venus. I want know how people feel in this kind of relationships. In all check in synastry I did I've not find real love without venus connection. I've only find onesided feelings in this kind of synastry pattern.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 02, 2011 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to add some more connections.
If my Venus aspects a Man's Neptune, I put him on a pedestal. I see him as very beautiful.

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posted April 02, 2011 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wondering about unaspected Venus in synastry too. I saw it in a chart once. It's a friend-of-a-friend kind of situation, so I can't give you many details. All I know is that the woman involved was very into the guy, but his Venus was unaspected in their synastry. Her Venus trined his Sun, but that was it in regards to Venus aspects in their synastry.

Anyway, they went out for roughly three years. It was clear that she was very starry-eyed, and thought he was The One. However, he wasn't that attached. It seemed that she did all the giving, but he either pulled away, or didn't respond. In the end, he wound up dumping her. She took it very hard.

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posted April 02, 2011 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In astrology, everything is aspected, if you take 15 degrees either side as orb. This means that one planet is always connected to each of the others.

Or, just believe that things can be unaspected, while singling out the influence, hoping you can come up with something to explain away.

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posted April 02, 2011 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
isnt 15 really wide tho?

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Coffee
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posted April 02, 2011 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12 aspects of 30 degrees, 15 either side, represent the equal 30 degree signs and also the (equal) 30 degree houses.

It's only wide if you consider things from the other point of view.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 02, 2011 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Coffee,I would hate to see you in a debate with the guys who claim a 2 degree orb

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posted April 02, 2011 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Redstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's using a whole sign as a basis, essentially giving you a 30 deg cover.

I am a die hard believer in smaller orbs.
And in unaspected planets.

I've had personal relationships with others where my venus only had outer planet contacts, and I have to say it did have a different feel to personal planet contacts.


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posted April 02, 2011 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Redstar:
That's using a whole sign as a basis, essentially giving you a 30 deg cover.

I am a die hard believer in smaller orbs.
And in unaspected planets.

I've had personal relationships with others where my venus only had outer planet contacts, and I have to say it did have a different feel to personal planet contacts.


Dear Redstar
Can you PLEASE elaborate on the Venus with outer planets in synastry vs venus with personal planets.
I have it with outer planets,now,in synastry.
I would love to hear your take on it.Please give as many details as you are able

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posted April 02, 2011 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Redstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami sorry my post was so devoid of detail.

Ok well in the first instance I aspected their venus well, but they only had a pluto opposite my venus.

We had a lot of moon, merc and mars intra aspects which made for quick attraction of minds and emotionally we were on the same page etc.

But, and here was the drastic difference, while he was smitten and had no problems with the way I expressed my 'adoration' or affection, it took me some time before I could get used to his particular way of affection. I didn't share his values either, so you could say that to me was the venus dimension coming into play.

His pluto opposing my venus, and this being the only planet contacting my venus made it essentially a power play as he had a strong pull on me for sure, but it wasnt a comfortable or 'pleasant' experience for me, and I had to readjust in order for us to continue, because from his point of view there was nothing wrong, as the his venus was happy, while mine was at odds with his chart and confused as to the nature of the attraction.

With another person I only had their Uranus conjunct my venus, and their neptune sextile it, while my personal planets made a number of aspects to his venus.
In this case the separation push-pull dynamic of the venus/uranus came into play full force, and affected me more than it did him. My venus (which is in aries and likes things to be direct, short and sweet.) found it hard, not having any personal connections to his chart. Uranus making it feel unsure of where it stands and Neptune spinning enchanting dreams but providing no substance.

In the end I think it was hard to feel 'complete', the way you can feel in some relationships (when potentially venus is more integrated for both parties).

I hope that helps to illustrate what I mean?

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Scorpionic_Web
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posted April 02, 2011 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic_Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as inner-to-outer planets go, my Taurean crush and I have one orbed aspect: She has Gemini Venus opposition Sagittarius Saturn, natally. This creates an opposition of her Venus to my Uranus and a conjunction with her Saturn.

I think the uneasy vibe of our Venus/Uranus opposition is calmed considerably with my conjunction to her Saturn.

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