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littlecloud
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posted April 03, 2011 07:35 AM
  
I've been thinking about house systems for a while. Which ones are correct and such. Which do you use for people born far north or far south? Do you compare charts of the person using the different house systems?Coffee you sparked my curiosity in the unaspected venus thread. I myself use fairly wide orbs, up until 10 degrees but also depending on what planets are involved. Also if it's a generational aspect I give a little less importance bc it's something they would have with everyone. (regarding synastry) For example I don't think I would really count a 10 degree aspect to Uranus and Pluto because they are both rather slow moving... So which is "correct"? What have you seen work? IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted April 03, 2011 10:30 AM
I have dithered between equal and whole sighn, but use whole sign. The MC can change to be in any house, which is fine for me to work with. To test it's accuracy, you need to look at transits to the MC ruler. Sure it works.You need to look when a person wins an award, for work done. You look at house rulers 1 (self) and MC ruler (award) I don't know many who live in that far north/south area. I rectify the charts of many sportspeople, and many celebrities too. I do not apply transits like I have been self taught to, I do it in my own logical, and not so far out way. Not too much to grasp. When looking at house rulers 1 and 6, an aspect from the slower moving planet to the faster moving planet can have an orb of about 1 degree to give its full effect. This is no different to many other interpretations. Where I differ is having the planets always aspecting, whether it is Sun, Moon, Uranus, or Pluto. What you do for one, you do for all. If you can get past the idea that everything is aspected, you will find methods very similar. Take house ruler 1...if that is aspected to every other house ruler, you get 12 interpretations for that house. Go onto house 2, then 3, 4, and the rest, and you see the numbers of total possible interpreataions isnt that high. On the other hand, if you interpret planets which are within a 1 degree orb, you got a lot of players in your natal which have no value whatsoever. Since when did a part of your life stop spinning.... That answer your question..... IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted April 03, 2011 12:18 PM
*scratches head*I think I'm confused lol...let this marinate in my head a while... IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted April 03, 2011 12:30 PM
aha  I get it...using whole signs/15 degree orbs gives you a holistic view of the chart. Like holistic medicine. All of it interacts and is co-existent within one another and isolation doesn't really work because all parts of your life are always present, not just one. You get the 'pregnant view' this way. Ok I dig... I'm partial to equal house system myself. I don't see why a persons 10 house should span 1.5 signs and why the 1st house is like 1/4 of a sign...I just don't like how this changes some of my placements in my chart :P IP: Logged |
iQ
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posted April 03, 2011 01:18 PM
I use equal house system and give plenty of importance to transits. Solar Transits work like clockwork, and so do Mars transits if you wish to cross check the meanings of houses.Saturn transits take some time but having statistically tested thanks to charts with accurate birthtimes, I can attest that Saturn's effect is very powerful when Saturn has spent a week near the house cusp. One week allows a Moon Square to trigger the transit event.
Meaning of the House?
I use this: 1. Self Promotion, Self Expression, Sense of Being, Confidence. 2. Cash Flow, Introversion, Maternal Links 3. Exhaustive Writing, Getting Published, Voracious Reading, Communication, Gadgets, Finger Instruments, Texting etc 4. Home, Sense of Introspection, Real Estate, Vocal Cords. 5. Joy, Luck, Romance, Children, Brain Children/Ideas 6. Service to Others, Empathy, Compassion 7. Relationships, Change, Fairness 8. Death, Taxes, Inheritance/Other people's cash, Established Order, Orthodoxy, Law. 9. Foreign Travel, Foreign Culture/Languages, Publishing others work, Promoting Truthful Insights, Religious Principles. 10. Career, Executive Ability, Corporate Structure, Sexual Expression, Getting Known or Exposed. 11. Friends, Humaneness, Success, Liberal Views, Networking, Art, Harmony. 12. Rigorous Service, Self Confinement, Secrecy, Health, Critical Thinking, OCD. You will notice that 6th and 12th house interps of mine are based on Carl Payne Tobey's work. Hope this helps. ------------------
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littlecloud
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posted April 03, 2011 01:25 PM
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Solar Transits work like clockwork
Can you explain this a little better? I'm not quite grasping this concept...also those links in your signature (in the post) is there an email address I can use? I'd like to contact you... IP: Logged |
iQ
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posted April 04, 2011 06:43 AM
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littlecloud
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posted April 04, 2011 06:59 AM
Ok I got it. You can delete the email if you wish.
Also what orbs do you use for planets. I know asteroid orbs are much smaller.
Coffee- Do you use the same orbs for asteriods and NN or other energy points? IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted April 04, 2011 07:07 AM
Yes, I use the same for asteroids, and in my special reports, you get all 600 billion of the asteroids interpreted.Lesson number 2: AVOID asteroids, and stick to the planets. My answer is: No, because asteroids are useless. IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted April 04, 2011 08:08 AM
hehe...I'm sure you stir up controversy. I usually stay away from asteroids for two reason, one: Because I don't know much about them and two: They support the planets. If something doesn't exist between the planets then having valentine conjunct eros (or something) won't make the relationship work...What about North Node? IP: Logged |
iQ
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posted April 04, 2011 02:10 PM
Thanks to the ignorance of many textbook Astrologers of the world, genuine Astrologers get to work in peace with Asteroids wherever applicable. Check out my Earthquake/Solar Flare prediction for today made weeks ago, using Asteroids on FB's "Divergent Astrology" Group.
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Coffee
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posted April 04, 2011 02:12 PM
I use nn for timing of eclipses, nothing more. Though did like Jan Spillers book. Still open to interpretation on it, but sure you can find what you need to with planets alone.IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted April 04, 2011 02:51 PM
IQ- do you use the same orbs for the planets as you do asteroids?IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted April 08, 2011 04:12 AM
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iQ
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posted April 08, 2011 04:57 AM
No, I use tight orbs for Asteroids alone. Mostly 1-1.5 degrees. For planetary conjunctions, I use up to 3 degrees orbs. For Lunar and Ascendant Conjunctions, I use up to 5 degrees. IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted April 08, 2011 03:28 PM
haha that's still tight to me! I guess everyone has their own method... Astrology is flexible in my opinion. *shrugs* Although I think I'm going to lean more towards using equal house system. It makes more sense logically..
OH! almost forgot...for asteroids you use all major aspects?
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littlecloud
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posted April 08, 2011 07:39 PM
also is there an asteroid or aspect or a something that shows telekinesis in a chart?IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted April 08, 2011 07:43 PM
I'd look to the asteroid 'telekinesis.'
If that's not there, maybe they should name one after that skill so you can all compare it in peoples natal. Shocker!IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted April 08, 2011 07:47 PM
there's teleki but I don't know if that is the right one...I haven't studied asteroids and don't want to assume something is what it isn't.Please, there is no need for you to be sarcastic. I'm just asking for information that I don't know, there's no need to be rude. IP: Logged |
iQ
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posted April 09, 2011 10:22 AM
TeleKinesis is very strong Psychic Ability. The probleem is we do not have enough documented cases of Telekinetic people.If you need to analyze basic Pychic Ability like ESP/Precognition/Future Events in Dreams, then Asteroid PALLAS aspecting Moon or Neptune or Asteroid PSYCHE is an excellent starting point. Mercury in Water Signs helps. Asteroid HYPNOS conjunct Moon can indicate a powerful Dreamer/Astral Wanderer. For Kundalini Power, look to Asteroid KAALI or LILITH's strength through planetary conjunctions. For Auric Sensing and empathy, look to Asteroid AURA or SPIRIT aspecting Neptune or Moon. For paranormal sensing/ghost sensing, Asteroid ANUBIS holds the key.
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Coffee
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posted April 09, 2011 10:50 AM
The sarcasm must be in my chart somewhere. Blaming me for what is given at birth? Shocker  I was going for humour, and hopefully leading people along the correct path. If not your path, don't take it to heart. If you saw someone doing something wrong, would you suggest a better way of doing things? IP: Logged |
iQ
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posted April 09, 2011 10:59 AM
Coffee wrote:
"Hopefully leading people along the correct path."
You sure have a sense of humour.
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mochai
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posted April 09, 2011 12:16 PM
Coffee, you remind me of the scientists who see telekinesis in the lab and then say the whole experiment is flawed for x reason. The correlations with the earthquakes that I'm sure you've seen on other threads should be intriguing enough. In my own experiences, kundalini was pretty bad when I had transiting kaali conj natal kaali, square saturn. There is nothing wrong with trying to discern a pattern from observations. I do find something wrong when you try to make your observations fit a pattern. No breakthroughs are ever made when you ignore such data. IQ has already pointed out the statistical impossibility with castrophic deadly quakes and asteroid poseidon. Science is not about ignoring data for perceptual convenience. Its quest is not subjective in nature. I mean that with the greatest respect. IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted April 09, 2011 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by iQ:
TeleKinesis is very strong Psychic Ability. The probleem is we do not have enough documented cases of Telekinetic people.If you need to analyze basic Pychic Ability like ESP/Precognition/Future Events in Dreams, then Asteroid PALLAS aspecting Moon or Neptune or Asteroid PSYCHE is an excellent starting point. Mercury in Water Signs helps. Asteroid HYPNOS conjunct Moon can indicate a powerful Dreamer/Astral Wanderer. For Kundalini Power, look to Asteroid KAALI or LILITH's strength through planetary conjunctions. For Auric Sensing and empathy, look to Asteroid AURA or SPIRIT aspecting Neptune or Moon. For paranormal sensing/ghost sensing, Asteroid ANUBIS holds the key.
I have Pallas exact semi-sextile neptune...not sure if that minor aspect works. Pallas is conjunct Poseidon.
Poseidon is also trine Jupiter.
Telephus conjunct Hypnos trine Aura.
Aura conjunct Merlin.
Merlin trine Telephus. Spirit sextile Sun.
Anubis in the 8th.
Kaali is exact opposite my Moon I've had a few weird experience influencing my will on things. Once I figured out that I could do that I decided I needed to be careful and just tried to heal people more than anything else. I feel bad for a few things I've done *scratches head sheepishly* IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted April 09, 2011 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Coffee:
The sarcasm must be in my chart somewhere. Blaming me for what is given at birth? Shocker I was going for humour, and hopefully leading people along the correct path. If not your path, don't take it to heart. If you saw someone doing something wrong, would you suggest a better way of doing things?
Wrong is just a matter of perception. (in regards to this) I see a lot of repeating themes in many things so it is difficult to say what is 'correct'. You may come to the same solution to an equation in a different way from someone else. This doesn't necessarily make it wrong. IP: Logged |
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