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Topic: The "Cheater" Aspect
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Astrotobe Knowflake Posts: 31 From: Philadelphia, PA, US Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 05, 2011 08:40 PM
Hey Family, I'm in a bit of a rut.So the guy that I'm dating has Nep #squ #Mar in his natal....today I found out that I do too. Here's the link on it: http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/marsneptuneaspects.html So because of this our composite chart has the same aspect. Two people told me that this aspect in a composite means that "it's unlikely he'll stay faithful" & "he's going to be unfaithful to you" I'm wondering "Why wouldnt I be the one doing the cheating and not him?" What a male dominated world we live in huh?
Besides this bad aspect in our chart we have really good aspects in composite and synastry...even the Magi Astrolgy aspects that are said to lead to marriage...he also met me during his "Cinderella Time", go figure :  Since we share the same aspect in our natal chart "#Nep #squ #Mar" which causes our composite to have "Neptune Square Mars", I think this will end up cancelling out the "unfaithful" aspect in our tendencies. I also think it will cause a positive/exciting reaction instead of a negative/destructive reaction. If you've read the link...then you can see where I'm going with this next statement. Based on the way I feel about him and the energy that he gives off to me...we are the new fantasy that we're always chasing after once we get bored in other relationships. Our energy easily comes in sync when the "this relationship needs something new" factor shows up in the relationship because we innately have these tendencies. In other words...whatever stress we feel that would cause us to cheat would be something we naturally handle. Negative x Negative = Positive in math I think the "#Nep #squ #Mar" aspect in a composite created from two totally different neptune and mars positions in our natal chart (or if he had the #Nep #squ #Mar in his natal chart only) would allow the "unfaithful" characteristic to manifest more easily, if at all. This would be more like Positive x Negative = Negative Does anyone else agree? Or does someone else have another perspective? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 53200 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 05, 2011 09:57 PM
IQ told me that any astrological aspect can be overcome by the law of love. I think I have this right. I would not let an astrological aspect stop me from what my heart wanted  ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
blugrey Knowflake Posts: 1006 From: Nowhere Registered: Nov 2010
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posted April 05, 2011 10:32 PM
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Mystic Melody Moderator Posts: 665 From: IL Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 05, 2011 10:37 PM
Who cares if he cheats on you? I mean the real tragedy would be that you two are so distant you have no idea what's going on in his mind and have no idea who he is or what he wants. The real tragedy would be if he's a con man who leads you to believe one thing so he can use you while leading a life separately from you while hiding himself from you. You have to get to know him slowly so you can learn what kind of person he is and how the two of you communicate to see if you can be honest with each other. Or whatever. I'm ticked the world at the moment, so maybe don't listen to me. IP: Logged |
MertSerimer Knowflake Posts: 956 From: where the fun is Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 06, 2011 02:16 AM
In predictive astrology,<--------if natal moon is in 12th house, and geting any aspect from 7th,5th ruler or Venus, you are more likely to cheat. if natal Venus is in 12th house, it can be happen more likely also.
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9347 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 06, 2011 02:30 AM
lmaoomg I thought of the Mars sq Neptune aspect before I even read the thread, then "click" and it's right there at the top!
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 5299 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 06, 2011 04:21 AM
I have it.. Why is it the big indicator for cheating tendency??????????IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 53200 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 06, 2011 07:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Mystic Melody: Who cares if he cheats on you? I mean the real tragedy would be that you two are so distant you have no idea what's going on in his mind and have no idea who he is or what he wants. The real tragedy would be if he's a con man who leads you to believe one thing so he can use you while leading a life separately from you while hiding himself from you. You have to get to know him slowly so you can learn what kind of person he is and how the two of you communicate to see if you can be honest with each other. Or whatever. I'm ticked the world at the moment, so maybe don't listen to me.
True You have to get to know people,slowly.It is the only way if you want something enduring,that is lol ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 53200 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 06, 2011 07:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: lmaoomg I thought of the Mars sq Neptune aspect before I even read the thread, then "click" and it's right there at the top!
Can I pick your brain about Mars sq Neptune. What is the reasoning behind this being a "cheaters aspect"? Mars is drive and Neptune would cloud his drive and his passion. Would that be the loose reason? Pardon the pun  ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
MertSerimer Knowflake Posts: 956 From: where the fun is Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 06, 2011 08:10 AM
People with Mars Square Neptune risks;There is a risk of psychosomatic illnesses. It can also bring problems with genital organs. These people like unusual sexual relationships. They have good impulses and drives. There is an also risk of overuse of alcohol and drugs. Advanced hallucinations or mental disillusions can occur in depressed moments. They can be really cheaty and so have risk of imprisonment. This explanation is cited from "Fortune Teller Astrology" website. So there is a low chance of coming true. But you have tendency to these things innerself of yours.
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StJake Knowflake Posts: 48 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 06, 2011 09:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by MertSerimer: In predictive astrology,<--------if natal moon is in 12th house, and geting any aspect from 7th,5th ruler or Venus, you are more likely to cheat. if natal Venus is in 12th house, it can be happen more likely also.
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TrueTaurus Knowflake Posts: 349 From: California Registered: Nov 2010
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posted April 06, 2011 11:24 AM
I'd have to disagree, I believe there is a free will and people have a choice...whether or not they have a tendency to want to, they know what is right from wrong. I have natal Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Jupiter, all in 12th, and Venus in Gemini, Mars in Aquarius, placements known to have a higher tendency to cheat, but I'm the most loyal person you'll ever meet.
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MertSerimer Knowflake Posts: 956 From: where the fun is Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 06, 2011 12:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by TrueTaurus: I'd have to disagree, I believe there is a free will and people have a choice...whether or not they have a tendency to want to, they know what is right from wrong. I have natal Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Jupiter, all in 12th, and Venus in Gemini, Mars in Aquarius, placements known to have a higher tendency to cheat, but I'm the most loyal person you'll ever meet.
Ofc everything is about free will. But even in astrology has balancing system in itself. Venus in taurus can make someone loyal despite of moon in 12th house. So it becomes balanced. I have Sun,Venus, Mercury in sagittarus, moon in pisces, mars in gemini. See the goddess fickleness and "hunger for more relationships theme" on me? But NN is in capricorn, which gives me some loyalness.Not Enough Everything is about choices and self-control. But some unlucky people like me have more "hard to control" impulses for any type of situation than others. IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 1050 From: Your ♥ Registered: Jan 2010
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posted April 06, 2011 04:31 PM
I think people tend to forget that out placement are the energies that we are given to work with. There may be placements that give people the urge to cheat but doesn't mean they will actually do it. We do have the choice to use our chart's energies in a negative or positive way.IP: Logged |
MertSerimer Knowflake Posts: 956 From: where the fun is Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 06, 2011 04:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by CrazyAquarian: I think people tend to forget that out placement are the energies that we are given to work with. There may be placements that give people the urge to cheat but doesn't mean they will actually do it. We do have the choice to use our chart's energies in a negative or positive way.
true but still it does not change the fact that some people have harder choices than other due to more uncontrollable urges or undefined impulses. So these person has more right to do wrong. I have 2 T-squares and a yod so i need extra effort to balance these energies. Mars-Square neptune is not an really bad aspect if mars is in rx or mars is in fixed signs for example. So if someone has grand trine and still does somethink wrong, he/she must definitely punished more than someone with same mistake with t-square or yod in terms of ethics or will  IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9347 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 06, 2011 08:18 PM
Hi Ami, It's one of the classic booze and ho it up aspects. Amoral, liar, weak-willed, not secure with their masculinity, procrastinator, etc. They also idealize images of masculinity, for example sports stars.IP: Logged |
bethcarliseh Knowflake Posts: 555 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 07, 2011 12:51 AM
What guy doesn't have a cheater aspect?IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9347 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 07, 2011 03:25 AM
Maybe someone with a ton of Saturn. I've never cheated, or wanted to, and that's me Saturn up the wazoo.IP: Logged |
Doreen Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 07, 2011 04:14 AM
Cheater that would be my x husband married me left me with a 3 month old baby married 5 other women and left them all the same way Sun in Aries conjunct Jupiter Venus and Mercury Opp Neptune IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9347 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 07, 2011 04:15 AM
He sounds like Elizabeth Taylor. She had Venus conj Uranus in Aries.IP: Logged |