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AscTaurus
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posted April 12, 2011 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I started this thread because I'd come to a certain chain of thoughts that I hadn't come upon before.

Oh, okay, perhaps I have come across this chain of thoughts before, but never with so much feeling and clarity to back it up.


So, I am assuming that I am speaking of my moon in cancer.

You know, the one that is the most sensitive part of my nature. The position that is at its "most subjective" because "cancer is at its home in the position of the moon and can therefore greatly influence the personality" etc.


I have a few questions though.

Well,actually, one compound question made up of various segments.


Truth be told, I felt this position more strongly when I was younger.

I think back then, the sun and moon were always competing for centre stage and so I would switch between being gregarious, obnoxious and playfull (Sun in Sagittarius) in one instant, and then turn around and be introspected, sullen, defensive and impressionable(cancer moon(I assume)) the next.

However, I have changed much since then and find that the description of the moon in cancer does describe me somewhat, to a certain degree, but other traits I feel are exaggerated.

As always, I believe that personal ancedotes and experiences far outway academic theory and generalization and so I ask these three questions that bother me a great deal about this position.

1. Do you have close ties with your mom/ dad to such an extent that you are unduly(at times) influenced by them and their opinion of whom you are with(either friend or lover), what you do with your life, how your opinions and beliefs are formed.etc?

It is often alleged that the bond between the mother and child becomes that much more pronounced when the moon is in this position.

My mom and I are quite close but I've always had a problem with our bond. For one thing, I continualy seek distance from her as I have come to find that I am uduly influenced by her.

If she panics and reacts irrationally, I am more than likely to be affected by that energy. I also tend to put her on an unrealistic pedastal, think of her opinion as of utmost importance and find that I can't disgaree with her without feeling really awful.

At times, I've found that I can feel emotionaly blackmailed by her.

Now I am not sure whether that has to do with our signs both being in Sagittarius that brings this influence on. As I said, detailing the difference between the two can be a monumental task.

2.Do you, as a moon in cancer, feel stromg ties with your culture, heritage, family background , roots etc?


Personally I don't.

I have often read of how traditional, home-loving and rooted the cancerian moon wants to be and yet, I find myself not fitting this description at all.

On the contrary, my love for family is from a distance. I don't want to be involved in any family affairs as often times I've felt that my bond with them is more obligatory than out of choice.

Also, I do agree with the "wanting to feel a sense of family"(on the other hand, who doesn't) but this feeling is more towards close friends(which are very few b.t.w) as I feel like I am more bonded to them than my own family.

I am really not into the whole cultural, roots thing etc as I often feel that my culture is stifling, regressive and lacks intellectual appeal.

I've often been condemned by my cancerain father of "losing my roots" , but I have always thought that "losing one's roots" is imposiible because home, is where the individual feels most himself. And that is not limited to blood ties, geographic location or customs and rituals.

3.And what is up with the "they are so sensitive, moody, self-pitying babies" description? Are you, as a moon in cancer, really as sensitive and subjective as claimed?

Well, I do have my fair share of inburts, when I am watching something really touching that I tear up to, but it is never a howl.

And yes, perhaps a wounding word does tend to get me to pout, but I stay away from such people(literaly) run away from them at times, but I don't rejurgitate the ordeal later when I have the so-called "I am feeling sorry for myself now" moments.

I also don't like the responsibility of having to mother someone else. Yes, I'll offer a kind word, food to eat, or even a place to stay for the night but don't expect me to sit there and hold your hand while you burst into tears.

I am more inclined to leave people alone to have their "moment" and when they feel ready to talk(not necessarily with me)I'll be able to say something to reassure them and cheer them out of their blues.

What are your experinces with the moon in this position?

1. Are you close to your mom/dad to a point where they influence you unduly and you feel like you may never outgrow their disapproving look of whom you want to be?

2. Are you as traditional, conservative, rooted and conecerned with all things family related?

3.Are you really as sensitive and helpless(more like an overgrown baby) as alleged?

Speak your mind.

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nordicsoul
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posted April 12, 2011 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it is difficult to define the emotional state of a person by the sign of the moon without considering the house placement and aspects.

I have three planets in cancer (venus, mars, sun) and there is nobody less attached to her own roots than me. I have not attachment to my home country in way that I left and I when i come back to visit, i get so anxious that i want to run away. I cant stay more than 1 week in my home country. i have no interest in relating with people from my own country while living abroad (more than 10 years)

I have noticed that for me it is easier to feel more at home the more different the place is from my own culture. I dont know if this has to do with jupiter in fourth house. or the fact that uranus square my moon, or jupiter sextile moon (wide orb buy applying aspect)

My brother has moon in cancer and sun, and 3 more planets in cancer. he is not attached to my mother opionions, or our home country either and he is very cynical about the traditions. he is one of the kind. his AC is in sagitarious and he has saturn in 4th

I have moon in gemini in 2nd

I suspect that if you go to aspects your moon has and the houses from which this aspects come as well where the moon is located (is in 3rd house?) can tell you more about the way you feel.

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crabbypatty
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posted April 12, 2011 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK... I'll give it a whirl, as I'm rushing through my morning coffee.

1. Are you close to your mom/dad to a point where they influence you unduly and you feel like you may never outgrow their disapproving look of whom you want to be?

My mother (as I was growing up) was textbook Borderline Personality Disorder. Just crazy, abusive (verbally and at times physically) and scary. I grew to despise her. And yet, when she wasn't being crazy, she was rather maternal. So, since my father passed away in 2006, I have made great efforts to make sure that she is included in our little family unit, that she sees her grandson on a regular basis, that she does not feel totally alone in the world.... which she would feel if she didn't have me, because she's managed to alienate any "friend" eventually due to her temper and suspiciousness and accusatory tirades. My husband cringes when she's around and I cannot blame him; she is NOT pleasant to be with. I think my Cancer moon is what keeps me (to an extent) worried about her emotional welfare. If I were so-called normal, I would have changed my phone number and moved half-way across the country years ago. Get it? I don't like her, but I am concerned about her, and she gets invited over for dinners, holidays and pre-school graduations, even though I know I can expect to be embarrassed by her in public, etc.

2. Are you as traditional, conservative, rooted and conecerned with all things family related? ***** Um, not really. I'm not at all traditional. I think my Scorpio and Aquarius make me rather non-traditional. I am certainly not conservative.

3.Are you really as sensitive and helpless(more like an overgrown baby) as alleged? No, not helpless, quite the opposite...although tears do come easily when I am emotionally overwhelmed. But I have a very hard shell and it's only compassion for others (which I am brimming with) that softens it. My weak spot, though, is work-related. Criticism from a boss about the way I've done a project can send me running to the ladies' room in tears (and has). Did I mention the Cancer moon is in the 6th house?

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JohnFKennedy
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posted April 12, 2011 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AscTaurus I'd love to see the rest of your chart - I was just pondering a Cancer moon I know recently and how that moon has not manifested traditionally He does have a Sagittarius mars, as well.

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Lightning Strike
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posted April 12, 2011 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning Strike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me describe Cancer Moon. Mind you, paired with a Taurus Sun and Leo Rising.
Cancer Moon always wants to lend a helping hand. They will feel guilty receiving. They have low self-worth/self-esteem. They suppress emotions and draw back the curtains/ want to be left alone when offended or when they're not in the mood to. They go with the flow, literally, their moods ebb and are never fixed, and they'll do everything in their power to be accepted, giving up their own identity and succumbing to the will of others. They don't speak their mind, as they don't want to revolve sand in the water. We take things personally, and tend to assume the worst when we're not sure of a situation. We have a tendency to worry, and we're easily guilt-tripped. We don't like to let go of our friends/family because we want to believe we're the best for them and we want them around at all times to prove this. Our self-consciousness leads us to jealousy. Oh, and we do act helpless sometimes. Gullibility is a factor too, since we tend to see the best in everyone. We care. Sometimes too much, and when others don't care as much about us as we do for them, this leads to depression. This would be a description of a Cancer Moon in its early stages.

Cancer Moons, though, have the best gut hunches/intuition. I feel a knot in my throat when something isn't right. It's not that we manipulate and warp things, it's that we know the right key to hit. Oh, and we'll circumvent to strike at the object - usually not a direct blow. We're level-headed since we don't usually wear our emotions on our sleeves (protection). We'll make the best caretakers, making sure to fit everyone's needs, and willing to sacrifice for them. We're ulta-accepting, for we wouldn't want anyone to judge us either. We can't stand to see anyone suffer, for any reason. We believe in people. We can be insightful/creative. Great business acumen, great promoters/entrepreneurs, and when they gain their very much deserved self-confidence, they have a far-reaching love for all of humanity, are merciful, and are willing to speak up for what's right.


And no, I believe we all have a right to do whatever we want, as long as it doesn't harm others. I may be the odd one out here, but I'm not concerned in reliving tradition. Sure, I do love to dress in clothes reminiscent of the War Era, but I won't fight to keep it that way. No, I'm not still attached to mama's umbilical cord, but I do love my parents. I usually don't take into account what they have to say, as we're all entitled to our own opinion. And I'm so self-reliant, I wouldn't think of asking anyone for help, I feel guilty and feel that I should be able to do it on my own.

Though, aspects do tend to shift the energies. My moon is at 20 degrees Cancer, conjunct Pluto's North Node (and Castor), and trine Saturn.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 12, 2011 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Close ties with Mom---nuclear fusion

Close ties with culture--Yes,very strong

Helpless---Probably

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crabbypatty
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posted April 12, 2011 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I resonate with most of what Lightning had to say. Lightning, are you a man or a woman?

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Lightning Strike
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posted April 12, 2011 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning Strike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Female, in and out! With a Mars in Leo in the first house, I tend to blend the best of both worlds. I was one of the guys when I was younger, but now it's at an eqilibrium.

And, you know, the only person we can know right-side up and upside-down is ourselves. So, it's a firsthand account of a Cancer Moon!

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Cynnared
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posted April 14, 2011 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon = PAST

Ascendant = Present

Sun = Future. The traits you are building in your character. By the time you are 40 years of age, your sun sign traits will be stronger and apparent.

1. Are you close to your mom/dad to a point where they influence you unduly and you feel like you may never outgrow their disapproving look of whom you want to be?


I was more closer to my maternal grandparents than my own parents. I have had severe mother issues and was emotionally deprived. My parents always had expectations of me growing up and was extremely suggestive when I was a kid. Now I could care less whether or not they approve of who I am. I have my own life and they have theirs.

2. Are you as traditional, conservative, rooted and conecerned with all things family related?

I am working on my family tree and have a bunch of heirlooms. I am the only person in my family that keeps the family history files. Traditional? I have Sun opposite Uranus and I am anything but traditional.

3.Are you really as sensitive and helpless(more like an overgrown baby) as alleged?

Sensitivity can be managed and dealt with in an effective manner. An overgrown baby = invalidation and creates mental illnesses. I have my feelings and I feel them out and move on. Helpless - No. Is an Aries ever helpless? No. They come off as strong. I have learned to cover up my soft sensitive side.

Don't take your feelings seriously and learn to laugh at life and yourself. Havong a developed sense of humor is key and once you go with that levity of comedy - then life doesn't seem that bad - emotionally.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 14, 2011 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Cynn
I did not know moon is past.
Asc is present and Sun is future.

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AscTaurus
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posted April 14, 2011 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nordicsoul:

I have my moon in 3rd house. I think this position makes also makes me quite restless.

My moon also forms an opposition to my mercury(capricorn) and squares my Mars (in Libra).


John F kennedy:

I really have trouble posting my charts and so I'll just hand you the positions and round off the placements:


Sun in Sagittarius 29 degrees
Moon in cancer 18 degrees
Mercury in Capricorn 16 degrees
Venus in Scorpio 18 degrees
Mars in Libra 17 degrees
Jupiter in Sagittarius 23 degrees
Saturn in Scorpio 12 degrees
Uranus in Sagittarius 10 degrees
Neptune in Sagittarius 28 degrees
Pluto in Scorpio 1 degree
Asc in Taurus 9 degrees

Cynnard:

That is an interesting perspective.

Sun= future
Asc= present
Moon= past

hmmm, I never thought of it that way. It must be then that I am expressing my Sun in Sag a lot, much to the detriment of my moon.

As I have read so far, the moon in Cancer has a diverse and often contadictory influence on those who have it(sometimes, other people don't even acknowledge its presence).


I sometimes feel at odds with my family. Sometimes I think that they are using somekind of leverage over me because they are blood and that they are allowed to etc. It's tricky to explain.

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Cynnared
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posted April 14, 2011 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your welcome

You may want to check what your soul age is. Old souls usually have a hard time connecting with their family or have some sort of difficulty. If you google Michael teaching, you may find something there.

You learn how to balance the sun and moon sign. I have my Aries- Cancer traits working together.

I might add that the Ascendant is the bridge between you sun and moon sign to get things working and in stride. The ascendant is what your close intimate people know about you. The Sun sign is what the world sees when your out and about.

Childhood astrology also shows that the Sun is the father, The moon is the Mother and the Rising sign is the baby (You).

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