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hannarama
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posted April 12, 2011 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just have a plethora of questions, hopefully some can answer them!

1. What aspect would most likely give two people the ability to read each other's emotions like an open book?

2. How can an Aries cause a Leo to fall in love with them? I read in a book Leos secretly love to be tortured emotionally before submitting to a woman but that seems so.... Mean Girls. I couldn't ever dominate someone who wanted to be, you know? I'm an Aries, I like that challenege..

What traits will get a Leo to take you seriously as potential?

3. I'm an Aries with Mercury in Aries and my guy friend is a Leo with Mercury in Cancer... how do I work around that, and how much of an affect would it have on his Leo-ness?

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SunGlas$Hole
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posted April 13, 2011 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunGlas$Hole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't like torture. I like nurture.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 13, 2011 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury in Cancer would make him more Cancerian,I would imagine.
I am a Cancer Moon and Mars.
I need a tender heart at the core of a person.
If I cannot perceive this, a relationship is impossible.

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mir
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posted April 13, 2011 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I (Sun-leo/Merc+asc-Virgo)) had a friend (Sun/Merc/Venus in Aries) for a certain time and really, his energy was too much for me. He overwhelmed me constantly with almost anything; words, expression, gestures, motions.. name it! I had to avoid him many times.. so I was glad he moved out of my neigbourhood one day.
But well, maybe this is just an example of plain & simple astrology... who knows.

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letram
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posted April 13, 2011 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
depends what venus the leo has,

and what rests on the DSC.

i have my own desires but i have aqua on the dsc and venus in libra squaring.. saturn, uranus, jupiter and oppose moon.

if leos have anything in common with me, then my advice would be to show independence at all costs, but show plenty presence. keep them arms length away. i think leos want to chase, but not openly like an aries might.

i think in some ways, leo may be a bit like scorpio in the sense where both signs want something they can't quite control.

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posted April 13, 2011 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea indeed, Venus in Cancer here in the last minutes of that sign, but well, it's still Cancer.. and with my Scorp-Moon and Pisces on the descendant with its ruler Neptune in the 4th, and.. last but not least Mars square Moon .. which implies that I look for a lot of water/moon-qualities .. I remember this Aries even had no water in chart.

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hannarama
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posted April 13, 2011 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's my signs:

Rising- Gemini
sun: Aries
Moon: Taurus
Mercury: Aries
Venus: Aries
Mars: Gemini
Saturn: Capricorn
Uranus: Capricorn
Neptune: Capricorn

His:

Rising: Libra, or Taurus (don't know his birth time for sure but he's extremely "chill" for a Leo so I would assume he's got the Libra rising. He's also a people pleaser)

Sun: Leo
Moon: Capricorn (again, could be Sag...)
Mercury: Cancer
Venus: Leo
Mars: Leo
Saturn: Sagittarius
Uranus: Sagittarius
Neptune: Capricorn

He's very soft-spoken but can be blunt, I've seen the Leo in him come out a few times but mostly he's always really quiet and "grunty" around me. Meaning I'll ask him questions and I don't really get answers, just grunts. Him and my Scorpio BFF get along really well though so I figured it has something to do with our Mercuries not aligning. I just want to be his very best friend lol, we have so much in common!

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hannarama
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posted April 13, 2011 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's our birthdays as well:

Me: April 7th, 1989. 9:56 AM. Henderson,NV/USA.

Him: August 6th, 1987. 12:00 noon (as I've heard that's what you use when you don't know the birth time.) Milwaukee, WI/USA.

I always seem to gravitate towards the early Leos and I don't know why, lol.

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AscTaurus
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posted April 14, 2011 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Hannarama

You sun are in trine so that is a very good start.

I analysed the rest, however, using a far quicker method that is loosely related to both your charts.

I can actually see you two becoming friends as there are similarities between the two of you.

You are right, he is a chilled individual. Even under pressure , he can come across as in control. Although, I must add that he is more intellectually inclined in an intimate relationship and does enjoy mental companionship.

You also have similar features as your general persona is of someone who likes peace, harmony , togetherness and well-being and so you cmplement him greatly.

But you are also a bit of a maverick, independent and opinionated: Wanting to do your own thing. He can relate, as he has the same general energy.

I'd say keep it steady, keep he inter-action platonic and friendly but spice it up a little by dressing well. He seems to me to be a person who is turned on visually and a bit of a show off.

Also, keep on sharing your ideas and opinions, no matter how radical. You'll be suprised at how supportive he'll be.

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Sunia
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posted April 14, 2011 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannarama:
Here's our birthdays as well:

Me: April 7th, 1989. 9:56 AM. Henderson,NV/USA.

Him: August 6th, 1987. 12:00 noon (as I've heard that's what you use when you don't know the birth time.) Milwaukee, WI/USA.

I always seem to gravitate towards the early Leos and I don't know why, lol.


He is not really an early Leo, he is from the 2nd decanate, like me.

I have a stellium in Leo in the 9th (Sun, Mercury, Mars, POF...), however my Venus is in Cancer, so maybe I can help you a bit.

We don't like torture but we also don't like an easy catch if you know what I mean. Don't play games or things of the sort, that's really a no no.

Feel free to ask more questions!


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ASC Scorpio;
Moon Taurus in 5th house;
Uranus Sagittarius in 1st house

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hannarama
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posted April 14, 2011 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for all the replies so far!!!

I keep trying to tap into his talkative side but it is so damn hard to bring it out!!!

We also have a weird connection in which we like the SAME exact things. For instance, the other day I went to the gas station with my best friend and on impulse bought these Pizza cracker things. The next day she went to Wal Mart with this Leo and he was staring at the shelf and picked out the same exact pizza cracker things.

Or there was the time I told my best friend while just her and I were hanging out that I was craving some turkey bacon and salad. She offered me a Diet Coke, I took it but didn't drink it. When the Leo came over 10 minutes later, he was joking around and goes "Go make me some bacon." not even having known the conversation before. She got him a Diet Coke as well but he never ended up drinking his or even opening it either.

Lastly, he always sits in the back seat and my best friend in the front whenever we go anywhere. I've always wondered why he doesn't ask her to adjust her seat so he has more leg room. Then the other day when she went inside I decided I would adjust it for him (and this is all in thought) when JUST as I was about to, he leans over and adjusts it!


What kind of aspects indicate a connection like that? Is it a good thing for someone to be so eerily similar?

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hannarama
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posted April 14, 2011 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
Hi Hannarama

You sun are in trine so that is a very good start.

I analysed the rest, however, using a far quicker method that is loosely related to both your charts.

I can actually see you two becoming friends as there are similarities between the two of you.

You are right, he is a chilled individual. Even under pressure , he can come across as in control. Although, I must add that he is more intellectually inclined in an intimate relationship and does enjoy mental companionship.

You also have similar features as your general persona is of someone who likes peace, harmony , togetherness and well-being and so you cmplement him greatly.

But you are also a bit of a maverick, independent and opinionated: Wanting to do your own thing. He can relate, as he has the same general energy.

I'd say keep it steady, keep he inter-action platonic and friendly but spice it up a little by dressing well. He seems to me to be a person who is turned on visually and a bit of a show off.

Also, keep on sharing your ideas and opinions, no matter how radical. You'll be suprised at how supportive he'll be.


I do dress well, I just feel better about myself when I'm dressed well! I haven't seen him as a show-off yet. Well... sometimes I think he does things so he can seem like the one in control and the big macho man who knows everything but that's not what I really define as a show-off. If anything, I love showing off for him lol.

I'm definitely a maverick and independent and I'm not sure he really knows what to do with it. He seems like a nice guy but there's something about him I have yet to put my finger on... like I just feel as though he has hidden motives all the time and I don't understand that as I'm nearly a straight-up Aries.

What really worries me is the Mercury in Cancer thing. I had a bad experience with an August 4th Leo and since have been very fearful of people with that placement. He seemed way too concerned with having control over me and having the upper-hand(which I would assume stems from the natural insecurity of Cancer.)

I'll definitely keep it friendly, but hopefully he'll start reciprocating that.

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SunGlas$Hole
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posted April 14, 2011 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunGlas$Hole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo's rule the astrological chart. 12th house Sun Leo's are God's sent to earth for whatever reason. I am a Pisces.

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posted April 14, 2011 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im also a Leo Stellium with a cancer placement.

Leo, sun,moon,mer,mars
ven cancer

So if you need opinions... Ill give my 2cents

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hannarama
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posted April 15, 2011 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Im also a Leo Stellium with a cancer placement.

Leo, sun,moon,mer,mars
ven cancer

So if you need opinions... Ill give my 2cents



Well... I think he does all these nice things for people to make himself look good and not necessarily because he CARES to help, you know what I mean? Maybe they're kind of intertwined but when I help someone... making myself the hero is the last thing on my priority list. I help them because I know how it feels and I don't like anyone else feeling that way. So I was wondering if this is a Leo thing, and if so how can you tell his help comes from a genuine place? My Juno is in Leo, so I thought I would automatically take a liking to them but I've actually never REALLY trusted a single one.

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posted April 15, 2011 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess it depends on what he's doing to help..

I do things to help, sometimes it does make me feel good about myself.. But Im still doing it for the other person... Even though it boost the ego so to speak... Your seeing the ego boost, but if he did it, its still genuine.. Would I leo really do something they didnt want to do?? I dont think so..

I sometimes get annoyed at doing favors for people.. (trust me Im asked alot) majority of the time I do them... because the person is a friend... If they werent I wouldnt do it... Remember Leos are very loyal to friends... It may take a long time for someone to be considered a friend, but once they are, I will do anything for them... To me thats genuine...

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posted April 15, 2011 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RMChex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hiya

I'm very inexperienced compared to others here, so I can only give you my personal experience.

The Leo guys I know have all required great amounts of flattery and reassurance that they are completely brilliant in every way. Even as friends, they would give me the world, find songs just for me etc - their friendship and love is as loyal as the day is long - but my goodness they don't like it if I criticise them. They are all very happy and bouncy when things are going right and grumpy and sore-headed when things are going wrong. They're funny, exciting, childlike and really very caring.

I have found the most success from treating them like very cute, cheeky, adorable children - reward them, praise them at every opportunity, love them and show that love as much as possible - but from time to time, show them that I am not a doormat and I was not put on the earth solely to serve them.

They are now eating out of the palm of my hand and lap up every word I say. :-)

That's just my experience, mileage may vary.

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Edited to add: the more I think about the Leos in my life - the more I realise that the way I get the best out of them is described in Linda's book "Sun Signs" under the section 'The Leo Child'! All makes sense now!

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posted April 15, 2011 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Screw Leo men! I've wasted too much time and energy trying to impress them, then I realized its better to avoid them. And I can say this 'cause I'm a fricken Leo Sun myself! And boy do Leo men love me, with my mane of golden locks, ha, they can't have me anymore!

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posted April 15, 2011 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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1. What aspect would most likely give two people the ability to read each other's emotions like an open book?

I actually feel this way with a Leo man - and I'm an Aries lol
The aspect I see as the *reason* for this ability.. is
My Mercury in Pisces trine his Mercury in Cancer, both trine his Neptune in Scorpio.


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2. How can an Aries cause a Leo to fall in love with them?

I'm not sure, but it happens so often. I can't explain it. I think every Leo guy I've known since high school has had a crush on me. often I didn't feel a strong connection though.
But with this particular Leo I DO.

I have a feeling it is because Aries women can seem "in need of protection" from a Leo guy's perspective.. although they seem quite *tough* from other people's perspective.. but Leos see through that.
They have a lot of admiration for the Aries spirit of always getting back up again - no matter how many times life knocks you down.

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I read in a book Leos secretly love to be tortured emotionally before submitting to a woman but that seems so.... Mean Girls. I couldn't ever dominate someone who wanted to be, you know? I'm an Aries, I like that challenge..

Ummmmmm This is tricky.... They like being "tortured" playfully --- not seriously.. Don't go overboard.

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What traits will get a Leo to take you seriously as potential?

A lot of things... Images do matter to them... so the way you present yourself, the way you talk - whether or not you seem classy... They love classy women (Do you have any Capricorn in your chart? I think this helps).

On a deeper level they like honesty and warmhearted women who are very genuine in their affections and don't sway or flirt with other men.


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3. I'm an Aries with Mercury in Aries and my guy friend is a Leo with Mercury in Cancer... how do I work around that, and how much of an affect would it have on his Leo-ness?

My Leo has a Cancer Mercury and Scorpio Mars.. I'm a watery Aries - I have Pisces Mercury and more Neptune/Pisces stuff... so this suits me.

I'm not sure whether his Cancer Mercury might get to you. Sometimes water Mercury people can be too quiet for the more outgoing fire Mercuries.
Do you have anything in Pisces?

:edit: Oh lol I wrote that ^ before I saw you complaining about him not being talkative!

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posted April 15, 2011 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SunGlas - I'm so onto you Like, I'd even recognise you in the middle of a greek wedding with 2000000000000 guests LOL

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posted April 15, 2011 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RMChex:
Hiya

I'm very inexperienced compared to others here, so I can only give you my personal experience.

The Leo guys I know have all required great amounts of flattery and reassurance that they are completely brilliant in every way. Even as friends, they would give me the world, find songs just for me etc - their friendship and love is as loyal as the day is long - but my goodness they don't like it if I criticise them. They are all very happy and bouncy when things are going right and grumpy and sore-headed when things are going wrong. They're funny, exciting, childlike and really very caring.

I have found the most success from treating them like very cute, cheeky, adorable children - reward them, praise them at every opportunity, love them and show that love as much as possible - but from time to time, show them that I am not a doormat and I was not put on the earth solely to serve them.

They are now eating out of the palm of my hand and lap up every word I say. :-)

That's just my experience, mileage may vary.

Regards
Rachel

Edited to add: the more I think about the Leos in my life - the more I realise that the way I get the best out of them is described in Linda's book "Sun Signs" under the section 'The Leo Child'! All makes sense now!


See, that's very true. The more I think about it the more they seem to act like Cancers. Then I discovered Vedic astrology (but don't know as much about it as Western) and realized all the fire signs are water signs according to Vedic, etc. So it's almost like you have to treat them very softly like you would a Cancer. According to that, it would really put his Mercury in Taurus which would kind of explain why he doesn't see anything wrong with just grunting as a response... lol

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posted April 15, 2011 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
My Leo has a Cancer Mercury and Scorpio Mars.. I'm a watery Aries - I have Pisces Mercury and more Neptune/Pisces stuff... so this suits me.

I'm not sure whether his Cancer Mercury might get to you. Sometimes water Mercury people can be too quiet for the more outgoing fire Mercuries.
Do you have anything in Pisces?

:edit: Oh lol I wrote that ^ before I saw you complaining about him not being talkative!


I don't have anything in Pisces according to Western astrology...well, I believe my North node is in Pisces but that's it. Aside from not being as boisterous as I am (which is fine... I know I can be overwhelming so I adjust my temperament a lot anyway) he is SO SARCASTIC. That's definitely got to do with his Cancer side a little bit.

I'm just amazed at how quickly he can read me! I mean I'd only hung out with him a handful of times, most of them taking the time to observe how he is and not really participating in the conversation, and yet once I was boiling with rage but didn't want to get into it and he knew. I was embarrassed and impressed at the same time.... like, my best friend hadn't even caught onto it and she's a Scorpio sun/rising!

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posted April 15, 2011 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Betty Boop:

I have 3 planets in Capricorn but they're my karmic planets (Sat, Ur, Neptune). My moon is in Taurus though... haha, come to think of it he has an idea of women that they don't fart, burp, cuss, or poop. I don't know whether that's a sign thing, or just a guy unable to handle the nitty-gritty of being a girl!

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posted April 15, 2011 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SunGlas better not do what Valerie Knight from China did

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posted April 15, 2011 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hannarama:

1. What aspect would most likely give two people the ability to read each other's emotions like an open book?

I guess that goes into what is emotion and what is thought. If you think emotions are thought, 3rd house ruler aspects. If you go on emotion, you go 4th house ruler aspects. 4th house because that is the home (hehe) of Cancer - ruler of emotions.

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Originally posted by hannarama:

2. How can an Aries cause a Leo to fall in love with them? I read in a book Leos secretly love to be tortured emotionally before submitting to a woman but that seems so.... Mean Girls. I couldn't ever dominate someone who wanted to be, you know? I'm an Aries, I like that challenge..

What traits will get a Leo to take you seriously as potential?



In the book, I guess it was written by a woman. No more to say there apart from she had some bad dates. This is what happens when you listen to random astrologers. Very unprofessional. The answer is to be yourself and stop thinking about how you attract person. They don't like the good you, they can stuff it. Do you like the challenge or do you like the person? You need some cognitive behavioural therapy to wash out the plethora of dating manuals and advice that you read and approach a person without your ego. Does that make sense or do you want me to clarify?

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3. I'm an Aries with Mercury in Aries and my guy friend is a Leo with Mercury in Cancer... how do I work around that, and how much of an affect would it have on his Leo-ness?

You need to say more. Are you looking at Mercury and thinking communication? If so, you need to look at 3rd house rulers, AND 1st rulers in comparison with each other. your 1 to his 3, and your 3 to his 1.

The aspect of square ain't that bad. Ain't that good either, somewhere in the middle.

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