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Ami Anne
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posted April 14, 2011 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that co-dependency comes when you throw away your Nessus

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posted April 14, 2011 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what do you mean by throw away, Ami?

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posted April 14, 2011 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not surprised if AMI have the most of everything in her natal chart in parallel and contraparallel to her nessus.

I think she is the person who have strongest connection to her chart and nessus than anyone here on L.L .

If so...yes I think you should throw nessus a way. Good Ide

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posted April 14, 2011 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah i see!

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Ami Anne
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posted April 14, 2011 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had to go out but hoped someone would be interested and write so I could see it when I came back
Thank you Popcorn and Lechien !

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posted April 14, 2011 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is what has been happening with me leading up to this theory ,Popcorn and Lechien.

I have been praying for God to heal me of co-dependency.
I am SOOO tired of feeling my value is OUTSIDE of myself,in others hands.
I am so ,so ,so sick and tired of it lol

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posted April 14, 2011 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking back to a time when I was NOT co-dependent.
What was different then?
I was happy.
How? Why?
What ingredients made me happy that I lost?

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posted April 14, 2011 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me,it was Pluto and Nessus.
I managed to get Pluto back from all my fights on here


I,still, was not right though.Why?
What part of me was not whole?

I have incorporated all the other energies to enough of a degree but I still was not right,inside, not confident,not loving myself, not honoring myself and having dignity as I used to.

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posted April 14, 2011 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw a book near my bed.It was by Evan Hunter.I read all his books when I was a teen.
The last movie I saw before I went numb was "Last Summer".
His books are about evil in everyday life i.e. Nessus.


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posted April 14, 2011 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nessus lurks under the surface in every person and every situation.
You will be the road kill of life if you don't know this and operate within it's parameters.
You must be able to feel the pulse of Nessus within yourself and within situations.

If not, you will be it's victim.

I will get to co-dependency ,later lol

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posted April 14, 2011 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How does this all relate to co dependency?

Co-dependency is,by definition, when you throw yourself away and take your value from the outside i.e.other people.

At some point, you felt YOU were not good enough or worthy enough to love so you gave YOUR value up to other people .

This is subtle,usually,but real,nonetheless,VERY real and very disabling.

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posted April 14, 2011 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You gave it up cuz you thought you were "bad".
Then,you were afraid to show anyone that "bad" so you were stuck with that belief.

It never got the chance to change cuz it got locked away ,inside.

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posted April 14, 2011 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is where my theory about Nessus and Co-dependency comes in.

When I was not co-dependent,I OWNED and accepted my Nessus.
I knew that I had all these unsavory impulses,thoughts and emotions.
I accepted them as human not "bad".
I assumed all humans had them.

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posted April 14, 2011 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I became numb,I threw out my reality i.e. we ALL have a Nessus.

I needed other people to tell me I was OK,acceptable ,worthy cuz *I* no longer believed it.

I was running from my own Nessus.

Please comment on what you think--yea/nay lol


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posted April 14, 2011 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lechien,not Letram Ami Anne,definitely not Libra Asc (I brought bit of Recification thread here)

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posted April 14, 2011 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus
Are you saying *I* do not FEEL like a Libra ASC to you?

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posted April 14, 2011 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Lechien.
You are right,Venus
I read it ,fast lol

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posted April 14, 2011 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
?? what happened?

Ami, interesting theory about Nessus. it's something a bit scary to look at for me. my Nessus is square my Nodes. my Nodes is one of the most powerful axis for me, because it's conjunct my Pluto and Moon, which i believe represents my father and mother, AND it's also an axis of my Kite formation that involves my Sagittarius planets in AC house.

also my Nessus is widely conjunct (well, near) my chart ruler Jupiter, which actually is an axis of ANOTHER Kite formation i have. (i have 2 Kites!) well, this Kite takes Chiron so it may not be officially valid? but i see it as an important point.

i'm still working on understanding this. i see "growth" through victim-hood, something like that.

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posted April 14, 2011 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lechien
I called you Letram,not Lechien lol

I will think about your placements. There is always a meaning to any placements,as we all know.
It is either a lesson or a blessing.
I believe Our Creator knew what our charts would be.I believe there are ways to overcome the hard part but it is VERY ,VERY hard ,sometimes.
It can FEEL impossible. It does for me,often,if I am gonna be honest lol

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posted April 14, 2011 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lechien
I called you Letram,not Lechien lol

o oops. lol... actually it happened before once, i think. you're not alone.

it DOES feel impossible for me too, sometimes. there are times i just think "it" will go on till i break. but then, i won't to give into THAT one, hahah!

whatever created us did not make any of us as who face true impossibles and fail. we are all here to succeed, whatever the form it may be.

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posted April 15, 2011 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami. I'm not joke. I se nessus in whole of you. The energy of strong nessus shows so clear in you. I see you cant handle it sometimes. I want you to check out your parallels and contraparallels. Go to www.astrodienst.com
1. Chart drawing style = Astrodienst w. asteroids
2. Click to show the chart
3. Click to view the aditional tables PDF
4. Check the declination: The same degree of N = Parallel, The same degree of S = parallel.
The same degree of N and S = contraparallel.

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posted April 15, 2011 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Venus
Are you saying *I* do not FEEL like a Libra ASC to you?


Nope,u don't FEEL like Libra Asc; all I get is Cancer vibe,not necessarily for asc,in general,I remember ur pics,scorpio fits well you always FEEL... Could that be ur Mercury? Somebody mentioned u always try to balance and moderate.. That's ur H7 Air Venus with a libran twist

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posted April 15, 2011 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Popcorn
I have NEVER checked out parallels etc.
There is so much in Astrology,so many layers.
One could do it from birth to death and never get near to mining it lol

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posted April 15, 2011 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Nope,u don't FEEL like Libra Asc; all I get is Cancer vibe,not necessarily for asc,in general,I remember ur pics,scorpio fits well you always FEEL... Could that be ur Mercury? Somebody mentioned u always try to balance and moderate.. That's ur H7 Air Venus with a libran twist

Thank you ,Venus,cuz the coming HOME of my new chart was like finding a lost relative.It was such a relief.
Only then,could I use my chart for healing.
Prior to that,my chart was of little use.
I looked at it and it was never me.
It was like being a Goth and having the chart of a cheerleader

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posted April 15, 2011 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami girl. I've right you wont show it here only.. . You and me know you never be so intrested without any reason. Why hide yourself behind other peoples nessus? you have it in your self so strong so strong....

I think you are super Parallel and super contraparallel nessus...I cant have wrong ...

Love to you Ami

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