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Yrone
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posted April 15, 2011 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,

I would love to have some opinions on a synastry/natal/composite aspect or two which I haven't found too much on. Originally I wanted to post this in the Basic Astrology forum but it just gives me blanks. Anyway, thanks in advance for your time.

a) Person A's Moon at 21 Virg is being semi-sextile flanked by Person X's Saturn/Neptun conj. at 21/20 Lib and Pluto at 21 Leo. Moon is contraparallel with both if I did the north/south thing correctly.

I am not quite sure how to interpret the semi-sextile in synastry, I have found contradictionary information. And I am not certain how to integrate the natal aspect.

For me, the whole thing looks like "between a rock and a hard place" or like a soul forge, a game of tag, a push pull ...


b) Composite: Mars (conj. Lilith and Ceres) in Cancer in 5th.

c) X's natal pallas, juno, insertname asteroid "cluster" conjunct Jup with the "cluster" being conjunct A's Mars in Gemini

On that note, is it possible that in any relationship where the people are more martial/military inclined mars takes a more important role then say venus when relating? Is it helpful or not to have that kind of background information on a pairing? Because in this case, I'd use Pallas for the warrior part she represented etc.


d) Natal Person A: Chiron conj. Jup in Aries (which is 5° off Vesta conj. Lilith conj. Pallas) in 12th. I must admit to not fully understanding the 12th house.

Thanks again

Ok so that was four

Thanks again.

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Coffee
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posted April 15, 2011 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
semisextile the second best aspect, after conjunction.

Anything to do with asteroids and magi needs throwing in the rubbish bin. Far too confusing.

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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted April 15, 2011 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The semi sextile - I personally find this a difficult aspect to integrate yet some say it can create a support system between the planets involved. There can be a little bit of understanding between the planets concerned but a fair amount of effort is needed.

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Coffee
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posted April 15, 2011 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've found people writing 100 page descriptions of aspects, when they should be writing about signs or planets instead. I'm sure it won't apply to every aspect.

I don't give meaning to aspects, I just give a rating. semi sextile is a 9 out of 10 aspect. 10 being fantastic, one being rubbish.

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Yrone
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posted April 15, 2011 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Coffee:
semisextile the second best aspect, after conjunction.

Anything to do with asteroids and magi needs throwing in the rubbish bin. Far too confusing.


But how does the semi-sextile play out? I'd like to have some more detail on that if you'd care to elaborate

And I should maybe have said, this is not a lovey dovey relationship, so magi doesn't really concern me with their cinderella super clash nuclear heartbreak linkages.

In this pairings particular case I just found it peculiarly interesting that Pallas Athena, the female warrior archetype in greek myth was conjunct the other persons Mars, it's just so fitting.

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Coffee
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posted April 15, 2011 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Play out? It plays out at a rating of 9/10 which is almost excellent.

Oh dear, I think I've lost you to the asteroid brigade. Quick, you can save yourself if you get out quickly!

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Yrone
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posted April 15, 2011 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Coffee:
Play out? It plays out at a rating of 9/10 which is almost excellent.

Oh dear, I think I've lost you to the asteroid brigade. Quick, you can save yourself if you get out quickly!


Yeah I saw your post after I've posted mine. And I added the signs in the first post. What I really ment with play out was more how the energies of the plantes involved would go together. A nice flowery interpretation.

And uhm if you want, I can go and look up the positions of Asteroids Cherryblossom and Lovebee for the synastry

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posted April 15, 2011 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just realised that what you're saying is the virgo moon is on the midpoint of the other persons

moon/nep
and
moon/sat

If you go google for info on midpoints it might give you some ideas on how it will play out rather than just focusing on the semi sextile aspect.

It may be that the virgo moon person is very emotionally sensitive to the other persons sextile issues between moon and sat/nep.

I wouldn't be looking at asteroids until the natals/synastry and composite had been exhausted with the basic (sun - chiron), I think they can sometimes lend a little bit of weight to what is already showing with the main planets/aspects but have little power when standing alone.

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Yrone
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posted April 15, 2011 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
I just realised that what you're saying is the virgo moon is on the midpoint of the other persons

moon/nep
and
moon/sat

If you go google for info on midpoints it might give you some ideas on how it will play out rather than just focusing on the semi sextile aspect.

It may be that the virgo moon person is very emotionally sensitive to the other persons sextile issues between moon and sat/nep.

I wouldn't be looking at asteroids until the natals/synastry and composite had been exhausted with the basic (sun - chiron), I think they can sometimes lend a little bit of weight to what is already showing with the main planets/aspects but have little power when standing alone.



The Virgo Moon of A is on the Midpoint of the other person's (X) Natal Saturn/Neptune conj. in Libra sextile their Pluto in Leo. Yeah.
Thanks for the hint to look at the midpoint picture, I hadn't thought of that.

And see, I was trying to focus on the main planets, as I left out that X's Lilith happens to be on that midpoint as well

I'll have a look at the midpoint thingy now!

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posted April 15, 2011 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 15, 2011 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Semi-sextiles don't say much. I think you're missing the forest for the trees. A semi sextile is a minor aspect and barely felt at all.

Same with asteroids.

I'd say Mars in the 5th in composite is good for romance/sex and for your creations as a couple (possibly children). There's a drive there.

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Yrone
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posted April 15, 2011 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course. I understand your point. The little triangle is just one small part of the two natals/synastry.
But about the trines, squares, etc there's lots of stuff out there, I've been looking at those charts for awhile already. And now I am interested in some info/different opinion on certain aspects. How to get a better feel/picture.

Anyway, it's not a couple relationship But I can see the thing about creating something.


P.S. I am very glad about any advice that helps me get a better grasp on how to interpret

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posted April 15, 2011 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sadly, no.

Judging an aspect in this manner is akin to looking at a photograph of a person on a ratings site, choosing a rating from 1-10, and thinking you're getting the whole picture.

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Yrone
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posted April 16, 2011 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
Sadly, no.

Judging an aspect in this manner is akin to looking at a photograph of a person on a ratings site, choosing a rating from 1-10, and thinking you're getting the whole picture.


I totally agree, but I think I am having some problems making myself understood? Sigh, I always have that feeling Or maybe I am looking for something that's not possible to have.

Anyway, I know the charts in question pretty well, they are among those I use to educate myself about astrology and I do know what other aspects are coming towards that little configuration from either natals. I was hoping to get some ideas/brainstorming/pictures on the aspects I posted that I had not come across the web yet.

Btw, thanks Dys, the Midpoint thingy was quite interesting, I found some interesting bits and pieces and it does float quite well with the Virgo Moon's natal stuff as well.

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posted April 16, 2011 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The password for Basic Astro is:
astrology

Just quickly here in simple terms (minus asteroids),
a) Moon = Saturn/Neptune/Pluto, person x may take advantage of a's emotional nature and send them in a tailspin, a is sensitive to x's need to control and gain the upper hand
b)Relationship drives to nurture each other in pleasurable pursuits, having fun making kids, having fun nurturing children, cooking together for fun, bad aspects fights over these matters, nurturing sex life, these are just some options
d)I'm not sure of Chiron, I hardly use it, but it's placement is typically where someone has been wounded and they help others at that level as well, conj Jupiter in Aries in the 12th, basic self assurance and salvation but also second guessing of selfish impulses and some fear of introspection, deep sensitivity as Aries is the baby and 12th is hidden matters, maybe some raw wounds related to self assertion.

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posted April 16, 2011 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
The password for Basic Astro is:
astrology

Thanks!

quote:

Just quickly here in simple terms (minus asteroids),
a) Moon = Saturn/Neptune/Pluto, person x may take advantage of a's emotional nature and send them in a tailspin, a is sensitive to x's need to control and gain the upper hand

Hahaha, that natal Pluto is squared by natal Venus, how is that for want of control.

And natal Pluto is sextiling the other person's natal Mars


quote:

b)Relationship drives to nurture each other in pleasurable pursuits, having fun making kids, having fun nurturing children, cooking together for fun, bad aspects fights over these matters, nurturing sex life, these are just some options

d)I'm not sure of Chiron, I hardly use it, but it's placement is typically where someone has been wounded and they help others at that level as well, conj Jupiter in Aries in the 12th, basic self assurance and salvation but also second guessing of selfish impulses and some fear of introspection, deep sensitivity as Aries is the baby and 12th is hidden matters, maybe some raw wounds related to self assertion.


Yes, that could be. Need to do more observation.

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Yrone
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posted April 17, 2011 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thought some more about point b)

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Yrone
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posted April 17, 2011 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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