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PlutoSquared
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posted April 23, 2011 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With her mother's permission I am posting this on the board... anyone with information or theories as to where this girl is, and what is going on - what can be understood with astrology, is welcome...

Correspondence:

Friends, I am sending you this email because most of you we know from ****** or the surrounding areas. This is the third day our daughter has been missing. She was last heard of at the library in ****** at 3:48 on Thursday. We think she may still be in ******. From what we can gather, she was going to meet her boyfriend but he never saw her. I have attached photographs of her. She is 5’6”, just past shoulder length, straight, light brown hair, with hazel eyes. She is thin, and was wearing jeans that are kind of baggy on her, a t-shirt, and purple sweatshirt with a hood. Some of you may have seen her at the markets with us. She is 14 years old. PLEASE keep an eye out for her in ******. All she took with her was a book. So, she doesn’t have a phone, money or a bag or anything. Please keep her in your prayers that she will return to us safely. If you should see her or even think you see her, D--- is endlessly patrolling ****** and you can call him at ***-***-**** or simply call the local police. I will be at the store manning social networks. Please let us know if you see her. Thank you, K.

My Response:

Hey K,

I am one of your subscribers, and I happen to know a bit about astrology and reading charts... if this is not too against your belief system, I could submit your daughter's natal chart to the astrology board I participate on, and let you know what we can tell by the transits to her birth chart...

What I would need is her birthdate, time of birth, and location. I can also send you the charts that will be created for future reference.

If this is not a good idea, then I wish you and your family well. God bless you guys, and I'll keep you in my prayers.

Sincerely,
P.S.

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PlutoSquared
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posted April 23, 2011 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Transits for Thursday, April 21st, 2011:

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posted April 23, 2011 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing I noticed was Transiting Neptune conjunct Sun...

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posted April 23, 2011 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the day of the 21st, a majority of planets were transiting her 12th house, Neptune in Pisces in 11th house was forming a conjunction to the natal sun placement...

T. Pluto Square N. Saturn in 12th house
T. Pluto Square N. Mars in 6th house (in Libra)
T. Uranus Opposite N.Mars in 6th (in Libra)

T. Saturn in 6th house...

Other planets bulk in 12th house...

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posted April 23, 2011 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T. Nessus was also conjunct Natal Venus on day of disappearance...

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posted April 23, 2011 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True node is in the 8th house, in Sagittarius...

Pluto is on the 8th/9th cusp which can work to "jarr" the house that its transiting, at the time...

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posted April 23, 2011 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I'm not sure, I will check later, but I think that Uranus is conjunct (within 3 degrees) the natal Saturn in 12th house.

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posted April 23, 2011 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will look at this tomorrow because I'm drunk and it's 2.27am...but I need to see a chart for the last time she was seen.

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posted April 23, 2011 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
I will look at this tomorrow because I'm drunk and it's 2.27am...but I need to see a chart for the last time she was seen.

Thanks, DysMys,

I have the chart for the last time she was seen, on the 21st... it's the 2nd chart...

Any one else???

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posted April 24, 2011 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From everything I've looked at, I suspect this girl was abducted for "human trafficking"...

Her Natal Chart's North Node in 5th house in Virgo, intertwines the ideas of service and sexuality...

Neptune conjuncts the Midheaven in Capricorn,
Uranus, Mercury, Jupiter in 10th house, all in Aquarius...

Career and life direction under shroud of secrecy, combined with Aquarius influences...

Sun and Venus conjunct in 11th house... a very social house...

Saturn in 12th in Aries - inability to exert amount of aggression in order to escape seclusion in 12th house...

Pluto in 7th house - exhibiting either control from girl inside of relationships, or control FROM relationships... within the sign of Sagittarius - this alludes to travel and distant places, as well...

The transits going on now further validate what the natal chart is saying...

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posted April 24, 2011 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm hesitating to post, but deciding to anyway. No firm conclusions, just seeing patterns.
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First, I haven't researched charts in connection to disappearances. Second, the tob is on the hour so I wonder about accuracy.

Here are some things that stood out to me,
-t.Neptune conj n. Sun
(n.Neptune is conj MC for fame or notice of some sort at the time, if any, of Neptune conjoining the Sun, of course won't happen in all charts)
-t.Node in the 8th sq n.Node
-t.Venus(Asc ruler)/Uranus conj n.Saturn (MC ruler) in the 12th and opp n.Mars
-t.Pluto (Dsc ruler) sq n.Mars/Saturn opposition
-t.Mars is currently opposite t.Saturn, which mimics her natal Mars/Saturn opposition
-The Mars/Saturn natal opposition being activated by the transiting Venus/Uranus conj square Pluto plays a role, so we have to have some angle ruler involvement there, and then of course transiting Neptune conj Sun as Neptune rules disappearances.

Mars/Saturn can be an aspect of restriction and/or abuse and t.Uranus on that seems to me to indicate a need to break free or increased abuse/restriction. Oppositions are usually projected, hers involves the marker for the father or an authority figure opposed the marker for the male sexual partner, so she could have been feeling restricted or abused by either. Uranus here may reflect increased tension and either like I said a need to break free suddenly or increasing violence/restriction as if held against her will (Mars/Uranus combo is violent with tempers flaring all of a sudden and also can point to demanding freedom). I really couldn't say which, but just to say that these dynamics are likely if they involve angular rulers. Does she even know the father, can he be reached?

Uranus rules her 11th and it's conj n.Saturn, so to me that says she may be with someone her father (Saturn) knows. But in this circumstance I think she would be Venus (Asc ruler) and she's conj n.Saturn opp Mars (restriction and/or abuse) in the 12th (hidden). So maybe she's running from restriction or abuse, or with Uranus involved maybe someone who knows the father found an unusual opportunity to take her, or she found an opportunity to get out of a life situation she didn't like; the boyfriend likely knows more than he's saying. Honestly the Neptune involvement with the Sun, with n.Neptune likely at the MC, and Saturn (MC ruler) in the 12th is not what I'd like to see, plus the violent Mars/Saturn/Pluto/Uranus signature. It could be something as simple as hiding out at a friends house, but if she wanted to leave, that t.Uranus and t.Neptune would really be giving her easy ways to make an escape.

I would investigate the boyfriend and the father a lot more, personally, since her natal Mars/Saturn opp is being activated right now and it's going to grow stronger. I guess on Sunday afternoon she will be able to file a missing person's report, since here anyway (CA) the person has to be missing for 3 days.

I just added in asteroid Karma (the only one I trust and that makes sense for me), and natally with this chart it's conj the Dsc, and transiting Karma is at 27 Pisces, conj her n. SN at 28 Pisces. That opposition, like I said is square the transiting nodal axis at 24 Sagittarius/Gemini. So whatever is happening here needs to happen.

Thinking again, and Saturn also rules the authority figure in terms of the teacher, so I would put them under the microscope as well. They may know more or have some sort of involvement. Likewise the restriction or abuse that she's experienced could be connected to a teacher in place of the father, Saturn rules both.

Looking at progressions now (4/23), p.Mars is at 1 Libra. Her natal Mars is Rx so it's likely it's just moving backwards, but it is still involved in a strong aspect here. It's opposed t.Venus 3/Uranus 2 Aries and conj n.Mars at 4 Libra, and opposed n.Saturn at 5 Aries. She is definitely feeling restricted and frustrated right now, it must be a very difficult time for her. The Venus involvement says to me there may be something of a sexual nature going on, but if it's her Asc ruler it could just mean it's a sensitive trigger for her transit and progression-wise.
Her progressed Moon is at 0 Aquarius, obviously conj the MC of this natal for fame or renown (making news, in other words) and it's opposed her natal Moon, and is conj her n.Neptune. She's either been deceiving or has been deceived by the mother for some time, if she has faced abuse in some form it's likely she hasn't told the mother, maybe she feels she wouldn't have listened or would have thought she was lying, but there's something there about deception connected to the mother. Her Moon rules the 3rd house of communication with this chart and the 4th house of home affairs, Neptune may or may not rule the 12th.
If the data is correct her p.ASC is at 4 Gemini and it's opposed n.Pluto which is sitting on her p.DSC (Pluto at 5 Sagittarius in the natal, her p.DSC is of course 4 Sagittarius). I have done limited research on murder and Pluto/DSC is at least a factor for some sort of abuse. So we see a marker for abuse again.
p.Venus is at 8 Pisces conj t.Chiron at 4 Pisces and sq n.Pluto at 5 Sagittarius.

So these are 4 dynamics I'd also rather not see right now.

With Solar Arcs, there are more markers that point to same, it'd just be re-iterating Neptune, ASC, MC, NN, etc., maybe the most interesting is that solar arc Mercury at 0 Pisces is conj natal Sun and t.Neptune, and that solar arc Saturn is conj t.Mars and opposing t.Saturn, so you're just seeing Neptune-personal planet, NN involvement, and Mars/Saturn repeated over and over. And she has that natal Sun sq Pluto so everything on her Sun is going to be squared by that.

Keep us updated and hopefully she turns up tomorrow! If it's a prolonged disappearance, I would investigate more the boyfriend, the father (and their friends), and also the teacher(s). But someone is lying here about what they know. With all the Neptune action connected to the Sun it may even be the father lying as well as the daughter. I hope I'm wrong regarding Mars/Saturn and any abuse, when she comes back someone will need to talk with her about that, a neutral party.

You know Saturn also rules law enforcement so it could be a police officer that's involved in this, or even a judge or an attorney.

Like I said I haven't researched disappearances just throwing out rulerships and repeating patterns in the charts.

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posted April 24, 2011 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent analysis, Lonake. Very good points brought up, you're blessed with a great placement, too - Saturn in 3rd!!!

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posted April 24, 2011 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And, I will keep everyone updated with any new information.

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posted April 24, 2011 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The T. Uranus to 12th house N. Saturn is also something mentionable... and probably worthy to discuss...

EDIT: The one thing that really made me suspect that she would not intentionally run away was her moon placement in Leo in 4th house...

Generally speaking, 4th house moons love their homes and find security there...

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posted April 24, 2011 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yay!!!

Check this out:

My email won't let me do another bulk email, but I wanted you to know that our daughter was found. Thank you for all of your prayers.

http://www.gardenfairyapothecary.com/

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posted April 24, 2011 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is v.good news!

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posted April 24, 2011 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's good news xxxx

In a disappearance I usually cast a chart for the time they were last seen and read it like a horary.

I wondered about the "father", it was like she was going off on some mythic jaunt to find him because he is unavailable to her. I mean this metaphorically.

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posted April 24, 2011 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
That's good news xxxx

In a disappearance I usually cast a chart for the time they were last seen and read it like a horary.

I wondered about the "father", it was like she was going off on some mythic jaunt to find him because he is unavailable to her. I mean this metaphorically.


Could the metaphorical thing reference the boyfriend???

Happy Easter! Due to limitations on outgoing email here (that is why some of you get mail from D*** and some from me), I was not able to tell you last night that E. She had taken some money a few days ago and spent it on junk food (crime punished with loss of phone) but her siblings thought it would be funny to tell her to run, that we had called the police on her. Also the desire to see her boyfriend in P*****, who went out of town, and being too scared to call home. She slept out in the cold off of the trail. I know that it is because of all of your prayers that she is home safe with us today. Thank you so much for all the loving support you give our business and to our family.

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posted April 25, 2011 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only if the boyfriend has replaced the father, with her having Neptune on her Sun it's important (if she's a child) that she has clear boundaries and a strong sense of self or she'll be vulnerable to people taking advantage. The Sun is one aspect of the "father" so his input is more important. A woman can help but only if she's more masculine than feminine and even then it's not the same. If dad isn't available then some other male needs to take that place. If there is no uncle, grandfather or cousin then the boyfriend would be next on the list.

Neptune on the Sun will dissolve the sense of self and at this time we need those around us to be more stable so that we feel safe.

Hope that makes sense.

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