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Topic: planets in debilitations exalted etc...
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roadwarriorsdp
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posted May 02, 2011 12:53 AM
  
I, like many other astrologers, just ignore this....for example... I have mercury in sagitarius, which is in debilitation...however my IQ is 145...and I was nearly valevictorian... my spelling sucks
but oh well.. So....I have just proven that mercury in sagitarius is not debilitated... I have jupiter in capricorn... at school i was known as one of the most generous kids, in college I shared all my ganj...and I have trouble resiting the urge to tip well...too well sometimes... So...I have just proven that jupiter is not in fall in capricorn... so this thread proves traditional astrology is wrong.. do you agree with the objective evidence, and if so...list your subjective reasons. IP: Logged |
bethcarliseh
Knowflake Posts: 65
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 02, 2011 02:01 AM
what do you think about Osama, road?IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp
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posted May 02, 2011 08:20 AM
What do I think or what do I feel?IP: Logged |
stormyvirgo
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posted May 02, 2011 08:35 AM
Actually OP you haven't really proven anything statistics wise. If this were a study, the n (sample size) of 1 would be too small to determine a conclusion one way or the other...However I am inclined to believe your supposition because I know many people with planets in detriment (or conversely exalted) who don't show limitations of the planet (or enhancement of the planet's attributes in the case of exaltation). IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted May 02, 2011 09:42 AM
Well Road
Perhaps you are seeing debilitation in too narrow of a fashion.
I am no expert ,as you know.
However,my sense is that your focus may be too narrow.------------------
Throw away your books and listen to your heart.Listen the closest when it hurts the most.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted May 02, 2011 09:43 AM
I have Mars in Cancer in the Fall.
My "theory "is about the easy "use" of the planets.
For example, my Mars involves a hard "use" of my drive. If someone looked from the outside, they may not see it.
*I* may not even be aware of it. It is the sense that one has to force usage of the planet rather than an easy flow.
Does THAT fit with you or not,Road?
That is how I see debilitation of planets.------------------
Throw away your books and listen to your heart.Listen the closest when it hurts the most.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Coffee
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 02, 2011 12:13 PM
I do not like traditional astrology. You only have to look at them with their head in the sand with not using the outer planets.Strength of planets should be done by aspect, where conjunction is the best aspect and opposition is the worst aspect. An example being Mars strong in Aries, it's home sign.
Mars should be weakest in it's opposite sign of Libra, while in Taurus and Pisces is great due to the semi-sextile aspect. This does bring up a problem with Venus and Mercury which have rulership over 2 signs each. None too sure how to work this one, but nothing major to put me off not using traditional ways and using current ways. IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp
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posted May 02, 2011 08:54 PM
thank youa ll for agreeing with me...ami you are right i focus too much, like an arrow, or an archer aiming an arrow, and i try to destroy arguments of others all the timebut mercury is not debilitated in sagitarius...it used to be because people with my bitting intellect would be murdered...i am teh opposite of osama been laden, i am a freespeaking thinker, but people would want to see me dead for shattering their false rituals and traditions. IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted May 03, 2011 01:42 AM
Your bad spelling I would think is a manifestation of Mercury in Sag (big picture thinking vs focusing on details).Anyway, domiciles and exaltations just means its easier to express the typical attributes of the planet itself. Like for example, Venus is domicile in Libra because Libra is charming and social, an easy place for Venus to express itself. Venus in Aries isn't BAD but it makes the native less Venusian. How can Venus express itself when its in competative Aries? Mercury in Sag makes you less able to focus mental energy. It doesn't make you dumb (I have Mercury in accidental detriment in 9th and I ain't dumb). I have Venus exalted in Pisces and it helps me see the beauty in almost everything. IP: Logged |
Nightingale
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posted May 03, 2011 01:02 PM
Mercury in detriment doesn't make someone dumb. The exaltation/rulership/detriment/fall system shows how well a planet expresses ITSELF in a given position.So Mercury in Sagitarius or Pisces finds expressing itself more difficult than Mercury in Gemini or Virgo. Sometimes Mercury in Sagitarius has to work hard to be understood and heard. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted May 03, 2011 01:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nightingale:
Mercury in detriment doesn't make someone dumb. The exaltation/rulership/detriment/fall system shows how well a planet expresses ITSELF in a given position.So Mercury in Sagitarius or Pisces finds expressing itself more difficult than Mercury in Gemini or Virgo. Sometimes Mercury in Sagitarius has to work hard to be understood and heard.
Yes Nightingale
You expressed what I was trying to say.For me I have Mercury in Gemini.My Mercury feels easy like a friend with whom you have an easy rapport.
My Mars in Cancer feels like I have to drag him kicking and screaming when I have to stand up for myself.
Basic drive is a push,too lol I think it is the EASE of use,ease of expression,ease of flow which is the issue here not intelligence or ambition
I was very driven to achieve in school so I was ambitious,in that sense.
Road is a genius,as far as I am concerned so intelligence is not the issue at all.
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Throw away your books and listen to your heart.Listen the closest when it hurts the most.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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roadwarriorsdp
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posted May 04, 2011 12:53 AM
I guess this is true, earlier today someone said that if i were perfect at my job she'd wonder why i was there..I froze like a dear and thought WTF is that suppose to mean later it dawned on me, because i'm new in a corporate environment she'd probably think i was a spy... however maybe she'd think i was too smart either way a trivial matter ate up all my time from the office to the car in the lot how lame. DEAR DIARY where should i put myself. IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp
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posted May 04, 2011 12:53 AM
I guess this is true, earlier today someone said that if i were perfect at my job she'd wonder why i was there..I froze like a dear and thought WTF is that suppose to mean later it dawned on me, because i'm new in a corporate environment she'd probably think i was a spy... however maybe she'd think i was too smart, or thinks i am too dumb...either way she lvoes me and wants to sleep with me...however the sexual harassment at work is rampant, and tehre is nothing i can do...i'd have to sue all of them... and i work mostly with women which is lame....because i like to grunt and fart.... anyways that's probably what you mean..
so....i have venus in aquarius in the tenth so i have all these women who think i'm A) cool or B) attracive in a russel crow kind of way venus square sun....
anyways lame talk here let's move down the paragraph. Look down. either way a trivial matter ate up all my time from the office to the car in the lot how lame. DEAR DIARY where should i put myself. IP: Logged |
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