posted May 03, 2011 02:07 PM            

Actually, come to think of it, this is not the only relationship that he had entered into without ending up with the short end of the stick.

He always seems so independent, aloof and disconnected but when he is in a relationship, he isolates all people(including me) to concentrate on his "one and only".

Both his relationships that proved unsuccesfull had him quickly move in with his lover. I guess he really is into the whole "move in and let's form a cosy union thing" but, it hasn't worked out twice in a row.

I asked him once, why he behaves like that. He responded with a lukewarm answer that just was not good enough.

But lately,he has been going through a serious funk lately that has seen him make the grim reaper a happy chappy.

So this got me thinking about/of the descendant; that elusive point opposite the Ascendant.

Many people often strongly identify with Venus as their "guide" to attractions, how they behave in relationships etc. And I am no exception.

However, I have my Venus conjunct my Descendant in Scorpio and so, I behave relatively consistent with the way I see myself in a relationhsip(Venus) and the way that my partner sees me in the same relationship(Descendant).

My friend often prides himself and sees himself largely as a Venus in Aquarius qualities in a reltionship; open-minded, liberal,"live and let live", non-committed "can't tie me down", independent etc.

However, whenever I experience him falling inlove, giving himself to another , his descendant in Cancer comes out to the fullest;hyper-senstive, anxious to please partner, very caring, receptive and very homey.

I agree with the assumption that the Sun sign energy may be how we see ourselves, or identify with ourselves. And so, the personal planets can fall under the same umbrella i.e The Venus energy may be how we see ourselves in a relationship etc.

But I see the Asc, Desc as "Out of our conscious control". The ascendant is how other people see us ,whilst the Desc is how we behave in a relationship; who we become when we are intimate with another.

Unless you have Venus is in the same sign or a sign that is complementary to your descendant, you will not see yourself behaving in any other way, other than your Venus sign(even if that may not be accurate).

And so it leads me to question ;do you act more like your Venus or your Descendant when in love?

And if you were to ask people whom you've been in an intimate relationship with, would they say "yes, you definately emulated the traits of your venus sign"?
Or would they see your Descendant sign as more telling ?

In my experience, most people I've been with describe me as "intense, serious and complex". Capricorn/ Scorpio qualities.

posted May 03, 2011 02:57 PM            

My Venus is in Virgo, but my DC is in Leo.

To find out which one I am more like, do I need to read about Venus in Virgo and Venus in Leo? Or Descendent in Leo? Any idea where I could get a description of that because none of the websites I look at seem to have much about it.

Thanks in advance!

posted May 03, 2011 03:30 PM            

Your descendant ruler is supposed to offer clues to how to attract you. Your friend's descendent ruler is the Moon, the key to attracting him is to emotionally appeal to him.

Although I think that it was probably the synastry between him and his gf that made him see her as the only one for him.

posted May 04, 2011 02:33 PM            

Thanks for the compliment. I really do try to be as articulate as possible, as not to be mis-understood.

But yes...Generally, I don't think it matters much if you find an exact site that offers 7th house placement descriptions , as long as the characteristics of that sign are still emphasized.

Try looking at www.elbertwade.com for 7th house descriptions as well as www.cafeastrology.com for Venus descriptions.

Read Venus in Virgo as well as venus in Leo.

Venus in Leo will underline the traits that your partner sees in you, when they are assessing you, from the outside.

But my guess is that you won't strongly identify with Venus in Leo, even though your lover may see this sign as more in tune with your love nature.

You will probably say :"that is not the kind of lover I am", because the 7th house is that part of us which is hidden from our own view and therefore "out of our control" etc.

You'll probably identify with your Venus in Virgo more; seeing this sign as how you see yourself behaving in a relationship.

I however stress that, your Venus in Leo description, will be how your partner sees your love nature manifesting in the same relationship.

So ask the people you have been intimate with. Are you more like your Venus sign(Virgo)? or like the sign on the cusp of the 7th house(Leo), when expressing affection?
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Nightingale:

I agree that the synatry between their charts may have activated the characteristics that I mentioned within my friend.

However, my argument is that it is not only the disastrous relationship with the Lion that brings this on.

I've seen him behave in a consistent fashion with a Libra and a Piscean as well.