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blugrey
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posted May 27, 2011 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 27, 2011 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mysticknowflake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those can be some very difficult aspects...

Pluto squaring Sun, Mars, Uranus and Saturn's square to Venus. This guy has major problems with relationships.

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posted May 27, 2011 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He's leaving the country soon

To go on holidays? To move elsewhere permanently? OR To go back to his home country?

What is his background?

I mean sometimes it can also be a case of cultural differences when you feel someone is coming on too strongly.

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posted May 27, 2011 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 27, 2011 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 27, 2011 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only going on a Pisces rising chart, I can see 12th ruler in aspect to Moon, which can be a sign of bipolar, depression, as you said. His depression is caused by the 12th ruler conjunct to Saturn, which means it's really easy to handle. The bipolar is fine as it's an almost exact aspect, despite being a trine.

Going away from that, if you look at his 1st and 7th rulers in aspect, to see when a important partner has entered his life, that was December just gone. Still the aspect of transit Neptune (1st ruler) to natal Mercury is separating by 4 degrees or so, with transit Mercury on the other side to natal Neptune.

This tells me that the most important feature in his life right now is finding a long term partner, and she will be a damn good one at that. If he had his sh1t together (I don't know) this is the aspect that SHOULD easily be dating someone who has her sh1t together and someone of high status in this world.

Maybe the feeling you are getting from him is a deep love which scares you, but it could also be fear that he might do something. I cannot comment any more on that.

There is an aspect from 1st ruler Neptune in square to Venus, which can help to make this guy lazy or lacking in energy.

I cannot and do not look too much at the bad side of a personality, with lack of research.

My real world advice is take him out to dinner/snack/game whatever to see what he is like. You can tell him if you're not interested, so he can move on. That will stop your mind WORRYING, that is something you can and should do.

You never know, you might actually like the guy.

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posted May 27, 2011 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From my experience, if you are being stalked you don't have to ask or wonder if your are being stalked. You absolutely know.

And no, I don't have a super big ego or anything

Maybe the guy just likes you in a romantic fashion?

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posted May 27, 2011 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 28, 2011 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a guy. I'd honestly take coffee's advice and meet up with him at Starbucks or somewhere in a crowded place. See if u like him. If u don't, gently let him down. Tell him u aren't interested in dating anyone at the moment cuz ur focusing on school.

Those long conversations you guys had might have made him feel you two are compatible. If he's am air sign or air mercury convo does it to us all the time lol!

I doubt he's stalking you tho. Also, about the shoot me in the head comment, you said he's from another country. Sometimes foreigners don't correctly say American idioms. Like, its raining dogs and cats instead of its raining cats and dogs.

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posted May 28, 2011 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
From my experience, if you are being stalked you don't have to ask or wonder if your are being stalked. You absolutely know.

And no, I don't have a super big ego or anything

Maybe the guy just likes you in a romantic fashion?


They say the difference between someone who is a persistent admirer and stalker is how attractive they are.

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posted May 28, 2011 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 28, 2011 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's good to listen to your inner voice and what it's saying. Sometimes you can pick up on some vibe that is given off by composite or in his natal, which may not be him at all. So follow your inner voice, with the idea of doing something, otherwise this feeling will remain until you achieve some kind of closure.

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posted May 28, 2011 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nightingale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Listen to your instincts blugrey and keep your distance from him. He'll maybe get the message. I hope so. Sorry about your predicament.

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posted May 28, 2011 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nightingale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Pisces is the stalking part of the chart methinks.

I wonder what you mean by that coffee? I had some similar issues with a Pisces rising who wouldn't let go.

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posted May 28, 2011 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nightingale:
I wonder what you mean by that coffee? I had some similar issues with a Pisces rising who wouldn't let go.

The water signs like to stick close for comfort, with Pisces who wants to merge and be one with that person or thing. An unseen attachment. 12th house/Pisces/Neptune can all show the behind the scenes shadowing.

This of the 1st house when you meet someone, which means house 12 is the one before that.

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blugrey
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posted May 28, 2011 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 28, 2011 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Coffee:
They say the difference between someone who is a persistent admirer and stalker is how attractive they are.

A stalker could also be just someone with no romantic interests in the subject. My stalker hated me.

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posted May 29, 2011 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Coffee:
They say the difference between someone who is a persistent admirer and stalker is how attractive they are.

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posted May 29, 2011 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nightingale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The water signs like to stick close for comfort, with Pisces who wants to merge and be one with that person or thing. An unseen attachment.

Even an imaginary attachment.

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Hmm.. I'd never associate Pisces with clinginess before.

I've noticed that Pisces rising can have a tendency to inflict their emotional state on others, so you can get all kinds of weird behaviour from them.

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bunnies
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posted May 29, 2011 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I kind of have to ask.
Do you not think there is something strange about asking all and sundry to look at his birthdate chart which you have gotten from FB, obviously without his knowledge?
If you found out he was doing that about you?
I would, yes, be alarmed.

I think there is a slight misinformation here.
If someone gave me (nay forced) a lot of presents on me and I was uncomfortable with it I would have no compunction in saying
"Your actions are way out of line, and if you persist in this I will have no other course of action but to call the (insert whoever)
Are you not at the same time alarmed and yet secretly flattered?
We've all done it so I'm not pointing any fingers.

If this chap disturbs you tell him in no uncertain terms to back off.
How are astrological charts going to help you if he is a psychopath?

"Back off, i have venus conjunct mercury in the 5th which is a much stronger placement than your feeble Libra in the 7th"

Sorry, know nothing about astrology placements!

But you get my meaning. If you genuinely feel threatened report him. Don't encourage him in anyway by engaging him in conversation, only to say that you feel threatened by his actions.
Otherwise be aware that you may be giving mixed messages here. And that your half hearted withdrawals may be percieved by him as a come on.

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Coffee
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posted May 29, 2011 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup Bunnies.

It comes across like you are boasting about having a stalker. You have options to change your view on this by letting him know how uncomfortable you feel, but you do not do that, just making it worse.

He has your phone number? How did he get that?

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posted May 29, 2011 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nightingale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think most stalkers are strangers, they are exes, acquaintances, people you know around and have been friendly with. They might well have your phonenumber, facebook details, address.

It is easy to get trapped into being friendly to someone who is making you uncomfortable simply to avoid getting a hostile response, or fear of making things worse.

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posted May 29, 2011 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 29, 2011 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nightingale:
I don't think most stalkers are strangers, they are exes, acquaintances, people you know around and have been friendly with. They might well have your phonenumber, facebook details, address.

It is easy to get trapped into being friendly to someone who is making you uncomfortable simply to avoid getting a hostile response, or fear of making things worse.


I find it strange how sometime, I hear, that women tend to not give their real number out, a fake one, instead of saying no I'm not interested. I guess saying 'I'm not interested' brings potential for a confrontation. But just think of the future confrontation a really peed off person will bring if you give the wrong number.

I give them my number, so don't suffer.

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posted May 30, 2011 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But by avoiding confrontation that is exactly how one becomes a victim.

Women who permit a man to hit them once and don't leave him straight away , become women who are afraid of the man they live with and end up walking on eggshells.
Subsequently they give him power and live a life in fear waiting for the next explosion....which may or may not come...but the potential is there.

Same with bullying. Trying to dodge a bully only makes one's life a living hell.

Women should stop worrying about "offending" men who are overly forceful.

If you don't want to encourage this man find a male friend to confront him with you.
Speak calmly and firmly. Change your phone number so you won't even be aware that he calls you. Take control.

Men don't understand a women's mixed signals. Ask any man. They don't.
If you want a man to understand anything you have to tell him in plain English. That's the way a male brain processes information.
What he's picking up from you is the push and pull female courtship ritual.
He probably thinks your interested but playing coy.
Enlighten him now.

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