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posted May 05, 2011 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Look at the combined orb of each manager

2. Work out the difference in combined orb for both managers

3. Each 30 degree difference is 1 goal. Now you have the amount of goals that will be scored.

4. Check to see who has exact aspects to natal 1st and 6th rulers, as stated above. The one who takes the win is the one with the best aspects to 1st and 6th rulers. If no aspects from either manager natal, the best combined orb takes the win.

5. Draws happen when the combined orb of each manager is equal to the other, in a league match. In a knockout competition, the biggest sign take the win. If equal, then the better combined orb takes it.

The biggest sign is worked out by combined the cycle of house ruler 1 and 6. Scorpio is the biggest as Pluto moves very slow, as does Mars. Gemini next, with Libra and Pisces after.

6. To work out which team gets how many gaols, just do an estimate of the combined orb difference, adding in an extra bit for any exact aspects to natal planets

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posted May 05, 2011 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EXAMPLE...

Manager A is Scorpio rising.

Transit PLUTO is applying 30 degrees exactly to natal MARS.
Transit MARS is applying 142 degrees to natal PLUTO.
Combined orb of manager = +172 degrees

Manager B is Gemini rising.

Transit PLUTO is applying 10 degrees to natal MERCURY.
Transit MERCURY is separating 15 degrees to natal PLUTO.
Combined orb of manager = -5 degrees

Difference between both combined orbs = 177 degrees. There are 5 lots of 30 degrees from 177, which means 5 goals.

As there is an aspect of transit Pluto to natal Mars for manager A, he gets the win, despite manager B having a much better combined orb.

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posted May 05, 2011 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HOW TO RECTIFY

Rectify is another word for 'change.' You are attempting to change the Ascendant to get the correct one (which will show the birth time, as long as you get the correct birth place). No birth place is needed to rectify as you need one sign from 12 of them that change throughout the day, to get it right. No rectified chart, prediction doesn't work.

House rulers
The sign on the cusp of a house, has a planet 'ruling' that sign, or associated with it always, regardless of which house it rules.
Aries ruled by Mars
Taurus ruled by Venus
Gemini ruled by Mercury
Cancer ruled by Moon
Leo ruled by Sun
Virgo ruled by Mercury
(BOTH Gemini AND Virgo RULED BY MERCURY)
Libra ruled by Venus
(BOTH Taurus AND libra RULED BY VENUS)
Scorpio ruled by Pluto
Sagittarius ruled by Jupiter
Capricorn ruled by Saturn
Aquarius ruled by Uranus
Pisces ruled by Neptune

Goals
House rulers 1 and 6 in relation to each other. as they have a good day at work (6th house)
House rulers 1 and 11 in relation to each other as they would be on cameras/in front of many people/crowds (11th house) when they score.
The slower moving planet in relation to the faster natal planet gives the overall form, while the faster moving planet in relation to the slower natal planet gives the short term form.


Injuries
Left foot/arm: House rulers 2 and 3 in relation to each other as house ruler 3 is left arm/leg
Right foot/arm: House rulers 8 and 9 in relation to each other as house ruler 9 is right arm/leg
The worst the aspect (180 and 150 are the worst) the worst the injury is. The better the aspect, the less the injury length out. The house before the leg/arm because it is the 12th from. 12th from is injury of....arm/leg.

Suspensions
House rulers 6 and 2 in relation to each other
6 is work. 2nd is 9th from 6th of work. 9th (law) from is work law. The worst the aspect the more suspension they get.

Debuts
House rulers 1 and 11 in relation to each other
Some type of fame/crowd there when they play for the first time. this also applies to injuries, suspension and goals. The better the aspect, the good fame or bad fame (worst aspects) they have.

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posted May 05, 2011 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think only managers can't be enough. Because players can refuse or defy his orders or advices and follow their own path which will change course of the game. You can say, if a manager is having "unlucky" transit, it can cause a player not to listen him and so it can cause a loss of game.. but it can be valid for vice-versa too. A manager can be having an unlucky transit, but his players can be having an energetic and lucky one like JUpiter-mars easy aspects, which leads a paradox...

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posted May 05, 2011 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MertSerimer:
I think only managers can't be enough. Because players can refuse or defy his orders or advices and follow their own path which will change course of the game. You can say, if a manager is having "unlucky" transit, it can cause a player not to listen him and so it can cause a loss of game.. but it can be valid for vice-versa too. A manager can be having an unlucky transit, but his players can be having an energetic and lucky one like JUpiter-mars easy aspects, which leads a paradox...

Years tested, years worked. The players are included in the manager natal transits. So bad aspects for the manager, maybe something wrong with the team.

If people know of this method and the prediction before hand, which they do now, REALLY! then it is possible that human interference could change the result.

A red card or two can obviously change a result, but you can also look for red cards by using astrology.

Been researching this over the past many years, rectifying hundreds of charts.

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posted May 05, 2011 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Coffee:
Years tested, years worked. The players are included in the manager natal transits. So bad aspects for the manager, maybe something wrong with the team.

If people know of this method and the prediction before hand, which they do now, REALLY! then it is possible that human interference could change the result.

A red card or two can obviously change a result, but you can also look for red cards by using astrology.

Been researching this over the past many years, rectifying hundreds of charts.


hmm, then you are saying that teams own players(players are property of team) so players are destined to go through what team will be gone through...So explain that then, when a company founder, all workers have to be foundered also (because company own them) but it does not work that way that there is always someone who gets lucky and get away with it and maybe gets more profit than usual? I mean no, not all players are destined to doom like their managers, it conflicts with the course of universe.

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posted May 05, 2011 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A business is the machine which makes it go, while the workers are little cogs, each taking a share (based on their transits) of how well each employee does. The best chart for the employee means they would likely produce the best work for the company. Someone has to take the share of the work. This happens in business.

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posted May 05, 2011 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

For mathematical soundness, this means if Arsenne Wenger manages Arsenal and Fergie manages Man United, there always has to be only one winner if there are no red cards in the match.

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posted May 05, 2011 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No IQ, there can be a draw. Look at the difference in combined orb between the two managers. If the difference is below 30 degrees, no goals are scored and it's 0-0, in a league match. As explained above.

If you have 6 lots of 30 degree difference and the transits are judged correct, this is how you work out a 3-3 draw.

There is a mathmatical method for giving the score to either side, when many goals are predicted, but just use an estimate for the time being.

Yes, you do need to have a rectified natal chart for each manager, but you can work backwards, attempting to predict the ASC from the score that was. You can also look at when the manager leaves a job (house 5 and 6 - END of JOB) and when he starts a job (house 1 and 11 - SELF and FAME)

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posted May 06, 2011 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the most interesting astrology theory I have read in a very long time.

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posted May 06, 2011 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you good at doing this for all sports? I wanna know what, astrologically speaking, led a basketball team to have a mindblowingly incredible run recently.

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posted May 06, 2011 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by carl:
Are you good at doing this for all sports? I wanna know what, astrologically speaking, led a basketball team to have a mindblowingly incredible run recently.

I could rectify the managers natal chart, but will not due to professionalism. I deal with dead people and horses, not alive people. Plus, I'm told, my life would not be worth living if I did this. Having revealed the astrology of the Chelsea team (I can send you the link) lets just say more than threats were passed my way - all over astrology.

In reality, they have no right to do that, but these are big hard gangsters who like to bully people, also known as sportsmen and women, so they really should respect that I don't tell, and shut the hell up, along with the childish and pathetic bullying, that they seem to be given the ok to do. Many are nothing but little children with a little power, gone to their heads.

Back to your question. A good tester to see excellent form is to look at the 2 house rulers 1 and 6. Look at the slowest moving planet, and see if it is near to conjunction (in transit) to the faster moving natal planet. Then all you have to worry about is the faster moving transit planet in relation to the slower moving natal planet. Plenty of top managers in many sports who do not have this and still have excellent form, but this is a guide.

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posted May 06, 2011 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I did not realize it. Really sucks to hear. There is a very dark side to sports because of some less than desirable people who really need to be blown out of the picture completely.

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posted May 06, 2011 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.totalfootballforums.com/forums/topic/63506-the-astrology-of-chelsea-fc/page__p__855630__hl__%2Bastrology+%2Bof+%2Bchelsea+%2Bfc__fromsearch__1#entry855630

Just the ASCs of the players. Ignore the Anelka one. Can't tell you that one or else I'll have France after me next.

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posted May 06, 2011 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by carl:
Wow, I did not realize it. Really sucks to hear. There is a very dark side to sports because of some less than desirable people who really need to be blown out of the picture completely.

They use astrology, this method, but somehow don't want it getting out or giving me a job doing it. They are happy to take take take, and give very little.

To them and the higher people of the world, this is what they use, but they refuse to recognise it, unless it is in conversation with pals in their secret societies.

They come for advice then f-off without paying. ALL OF THEM. I think they see me as some kind of slave, to bend down and hail at how magical and powerful these people really are. Right up to the very top...of every country. The celebs and sports people come to pay their respects, but they only respect the method which I have created, they sure don't respect me.

I do not wish to discuss these people, so only questions about this simple method.

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posted May 06, 2011 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The way to get the goalscorers is to look at the best combined orb for each player, taking into account exact aspects on the way from slower moving transit planet to faster moving natal planet, and faster moving transit planet in relation to the slower natal planet, as stated before. House rulers 1 and 6. A repetition (I did not say reptillian) of the natal aspect in transit also works too.

Feel free to check the goal history against the Chelsea players. I have rectified these natal charts, so do not have the correct answers, but, going by the way I have been bullied (seems like this team) I guess I have them all correct (apart from Anelka)

Any questions?

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posted May 09, 2011 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your comments on Man United beating Chelsea 2-1 ?
Has it conclusively proven your hypothesis?

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posted May 09, 2011 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Your comments on Man United beating Chelsea 2-1 ?
Has it conclusively proven your hypothesis?

Much better is your comments on this, to see if you can use this method to predict the scores, as this is something that I can do.

Despite what some would like to think, I do not spend all my time predicting scores. I'm spending time writing this information up for al the world to see.

I did not look. Neither will I be looking at many football matches till the end of the season. It's horse season now. Something I can share with the rest of the forum as horses natal charts are ok to show, just not humans.

What did you get?

Or better, do you have the birth times or estimated birth times/asc for some sports players in which you can test this method against?

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posted May 10, 2011 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will be trying this technique for cricket, using the ongoing IPL.

In cricket, it is the Captain that counts, not the manager. We may not get the runs predicted of course but the result is sufficient. A different approach worked in the world cup where Indian captain Dhoni's chart was calculated as superior to that of other captains and India won in spite of having a second rate bowling attack. Dhoni has a 6 degrees Libra Ascendant and is said to be the luckiest captain in Indian cricket.
Sachin Tendulkar has a 27 degrees Virgo Ascendant.

Dhoni leads the Chennai IPL team and Sachin leads the Mumbai team, they are likely to clash in the final of IPL this season.

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posted May 10, 2011 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for those ASCs IQ. I was going to do the world cup, but didn't. Love cricket, but not much astrology for it.

If both combined orb are close to zero, it is likely to be a low scoring match, as both teams will be on top form.

Yes, captains in cricket. I guess they act like managers when out on the field. Will see if I can post the charts. Where did you get the ascendant information?

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posted May 10, 2011 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can normally tell by the form of each team what the ASC is. Cancers and Aquarians will always have good and bad form as the Moon is one side of the zodiac, with the Sun, then 2 weeks later the Moon is on the opposite side to the Sun, assuming the Sun is near natal Uranus/Jupiter for the good form.

Sagittarius and Cancer have Jupiter moving about one sign each year, which is not really consistent over a long term basis. While Scorpio and Mars have Mars taking 2 years to travel the zodiac, meaning one good and bad year in theory.

The good rising signs to look at for managers are: Taurus, Gemini, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Capricorn, Pisces.

The slower moving planets of the two house rulers 1 and 6, are an indication of the better sign. This is only in cup competitions when there is a draw, so you go by which managers natal 1st and 6th rulers have the slowest cycle.

Obviously Scorpio is best as Pluto takes the longest to move round, including the Mars ruling the 6th, too. Then Gemini, which has Mercury ruling the 6th. The Neptune ones after that...Libra and Pisces. Then Uranus ruled houses etc etc until you get to Taurus, which only has the cycle of Venus to worry about.

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posted May 11, 2011 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got the Ascendant info online from many Indian websites where Vedic Astrologers were predicting world cup outcomes.

Sachin's information is in public domain for years, and considering his dedication to perfectionism and hours of practice in spite of a huge average, he has to be a Virgo Ascendant.

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posted May 11, 2011 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lets just say I don't get them two ascendants at all. Will have another check though. A combined orb close to zero for either should the ones you look at for transits to the final.

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posted May 11, 2011 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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I played football today, and scored three goals. Despite feeling some pain in my lungs after smoking lots of cigarettes, my fitness was pretty good to say I hadn't played in a while.

t.Uranus applying 17 degrees to n.Moon. +17
t.Sun applying 3 degrees to n.Uranus +3

Combined orb +20 degrees, with the added aspect (just within orb I think) of the full moon conjunction to Uranus.

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posted May 23, 2011 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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You may not always be able to get a manager ASC, but you can create a natal chart and enter a game, whether on the internet or on your PC/PS3 etc.

Here is one I did for football manager 2011...

As manager of Croatia national team, I won Euro 2012. Aren't I great?

Not so much of a feat, despite it's size, but it can show even the best combined orb can lose a match or two. It helps to know the other teams ASC too.

I best Ukraine, France, and then Netherlands in the final.
Group stage was Poland, Turkey and Georgia. I lost my very 1st group stage.

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