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Topic: Free will vs Destiny,Fate....
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MertSerimer
Knowflake Posts: 150
From: where the fun is
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 05, 2011 06:59 PM
  
Free will vs Destiny,Fate....?
Saturn rewards vs Jupiter's luck?
Optimism vs İdealism?
Reason vs Coincidence?and... ASTROLOGY VS YOU? bring it on... IP: Logged |
NickiG
Moderator Posts: 3560
From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
Registered: Jul 2010
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posted May 05, 2011 07:04 PM
as Linda Goodman had said, you cant control your destiny until you know and understand your natal chart, astrology, and numerology------------------
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MertSerimer
Knowflake Posts: 150
From: where the fun is
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 05, 2011 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by NickiG:
as Linda Goodman had said, you cant control your destiny until you know and understand your natal chart, astrology, and numerology
Well said..
İ know myself and understood my natal chart but problem is i don't want what my natal chart wants =)) IP: Logged |
NickiG
Moderator Posts: 3560
From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
Registered: Jul 2010
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posted May 05, 2011 07:24 PM
i feel ya...sometimes i feel like my future was predestined, or that i'm walking along some preplanned path and dont know how to stray from it...and when i think i have it turns out i really havent------------------
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roadwarriorsdp
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Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 05, 2011 07:25 PM
The pain one feels when doing something he shouldn't be doing, that is resistence from fate, you don't need astrology to do that, just faith in God...IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby
Knowflake Posts: 505
From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp)
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 05, 2011 07:34 PM
*brings it on*I had this theory once on free will vs fate... When you make a decision, you always make it based on your desires and personality. Those are often not ours to change, and mostly unconscious, which makes that we base the decisions we make on something that we don't have control over, suggesting that free will is , by definition, not free will. Saturn hasn't rewarded me with much more than being a grumpy critic over my sun, but Jupiter has granted me quite a bit of luck and I hope it will continue  Optimism is more realistic than idealism. And reason in what way? Like a reason for something, or just reason... you know? Sanity?
Astrology and I are on the same side. Well, usually. So no bouts there 
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MertSerimer
Knowflake Posts: 150
From: where the fun is
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 05, 2011 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by Aya_and_baby:
*brings it on*I had this theory once on free will vs fate... When you make a decision, you always make it based on your desires and personality. Those are often not ours to change, and mostly unconscious, which makes that we base the decisions we make on something that we don't have control over, suggesting that free will is , by definition, not free will. Saturn hasn't rewarded me with much more than being a grumpy critic over my sun, but Jupiter has granted me quite a bit of luck and I hope it will continue
=)). Maybe in your chart saturn is not that well placed.. Well in my chart, saturn is really strong it rules 11 and it is in capricorn and 11th house(being in the house it ruled and domicile  ) + conjuncts my north node ... I dunno, i started to like saturn transits.... IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby
Knowflake Posts: 505
From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp)
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 05, 2011 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
=)). Maybe in your chart saturn is not that well placed.. Well in my chart, saturn is really strong it rules 11 and it is in capricorn and 11th house(being in the house it ruled and domicile ) + conjuncts my north node ... I dunno, i started to like saturn transits....
Saturn is in 12th, and conjunct my sun, so I really don't like it at all. Even worse: it's in Scorpio. The impression that I do get is that it's a bit of a grumpy critic over my ego. The only good that has come out of that is that I'm essentially a very humble person - but all my planets in Sag often make me appear otherwise ------------------
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NickiG
Moderator Posts: 3560
From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
Registered: Jul 2010
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posted May 05, 2011 08:43 PM
AAAAH!! no way!! saturn conjunct sun in scorpio in the 12th???? my sister and i have that synastry...her saturn in her 12th conjuncts my sun in scorpio...i feel your pain------------------
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Aya_and_baby
Knowflake Posts: 505
From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp)
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 05, 2011 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by NickiG:
AAAAH!! no way!! saturn conjunct sun in scorpio in the 12th???? my sister and i have that synastry...her saturn in her 12th conjuncts my sun in scorpio...i feel your pain
Do you mind me asking? Is your sister kind of dominant and a "grumpy critic" over you?  ------------------
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NickiG
Moderator Posts: 3560
From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
Registered: Jul 2010
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posted May 05, 2011 08:48 PM
yes, she is, but i thought it was just her aries sun...oh, and to make it worse, her saturn conjuncts my sun exactly------------------
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Aya_and_baby
Knowflake Posts: 505
From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp)
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 05, 2011 08:52 PM
Same with me. Exactly the same. My Saturn is not even 1° away from my sun.Same effect too, but all within myself. I wish I could ignore that Saturn every now and again, like you could do with your sister ------------------
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NickiG
Moderator Posts: 3560
From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
Registered: Jul 2010
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posted May 05, 2011 08:54 PM
lol, i am soo glad she moved out a couple of years ago, i feel like i can breathe now...and she and i have a much better relationship now than we did growing up...maybe thats cuz of her kids..or its cuz she hooked my and my bf up, maybe its current transits working with your synastry...who knows------------------
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