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Topic: Combined Orb
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Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1789 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 10, 2011 02:45 PM
This is to help you work out how to do combined orb, which really does help hen looking at transits to your natal chart.Ask any question you like, while attempting to keep the 'transit (planet) separating/applying to natal (planet)' to the same structure as is written here. It will help me and you. COMBINED ORB The idea here is to see how close both transit aspects combined are to zero degrees. To do this you need to look at the slower moving transit planet in relation to the faster moving natal planet. Take that orb, lets say separating 120 degrees (-120.) To get the perfect point when both aspects equal zero, cancel each other out, you change the polarity to plus and leave the degree the same. The perfect point in this example would have the faster moving transit planet applying 120 degrees (+120) as the slower moving planet is -120 to the faster moving natal planet. While the slower moving transit planet may be -120 to the faster natal planet, and, for example, the faster moving transit planet is only +100 to the slower moving natal planet, the perfect aspect to make for the faster moving planet is +120 to the slower moving planet. As the faster moving transit planet is -100, 20 degrees of this perfect point, you can say the planet is (-20) separating 20 degrees from this perfect point, when both aspects equal zero. Always look at the slowest moving transit planet in relation to the faster moving natal planet first IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1204 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 10, 2011 03:51 PM
So you use the combined orb to make predictions then Coffee?IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1789 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 10, 2011 05:06 PM
Yes.Death is 12th house and 1st house is self. I look at both these house rulers to look for death + of self. Work is 6th house and 1st house is self. I look at both these house rulers to look for work + self. Or, how I do at work, in terms of sports people. If I wanted to look at when I might move house, I would look at self (1st house) and house (4th house) You don't always have to use the 1st house + something you are interested in finding out. Though if it's about the self, I would. If you want to look at when you have a car accident, or when your car is destroyed, you look at the 12th house from car, which is 2nd, and the 3rd house for car itself. So you would look at house rulers 2 and 3 for that.
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Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1204 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 10, 2011 05:16 PM
So interesting! Kind of midpoints in action in a way...because it's the point that planets meet...(I'm just conceptualising)...I like this thinking!IP: Logged |
Yrone Knowflake Posts: 295 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted May 11, 2011 12:19 AM
How do you distinguish between good and bad stuff happening?If you say, instead of when you want to move house want to see when your house is going to burn to the ground, you'd take H3 and H4? Or if you'd want to see the end of an relationship (any kind) you'd take H6 and H7? And H1 and H7 to see if one "starts"? And the closer to perfect point the more likely? Because I am still not sure I get the difference between perfect point and combined orb. Tried to reverse engineer with the aspects thread but meh. IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1789 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 11, 2011 08:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Yrone: How do you distinguish between good and bad stuff happening?If you say, instead of when you want to move house want to see when your house is going to burn to the ground, you'd take H3 and H4? Or if you'd want to see the end of an relationship (any kind) you'd take H6 and H7? And H1 and H7 to see if one "starts"? And the closer to perfect point the more likely? Because I am still not sure I get the difference between perfect point and combined orb. Tried to reverse engineer with the aspects thread but meh.
Yes, yes, yes. A big YES! Speak more later. IP: Logged |
RMChex Knowflake Posts: 430 From: England Registered: Apr 2011
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posted May 11, 2011 08:56 AM
So if I wanted to look on my chart to see when I was going to have children, what date would I use as a transit?------------------ Where possible, give people a piece of your heart, not a piece of your mind. IP: Logged |
Deluded Knowflake Posts: 47 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted May 13, 2011 04:55 PM
Coffee, a few hopefully not too silly questions if you get time...I thought I would look at combined orb for Rulers of Houses 1 & 4 to see when I may move house (house been up for sale quite a long time now) Anyway, rulers are both Mercury so kind of don't know where to go from here. I got -151 for Transit Mercury to natal Mercury. Would I need to look at ephemeris for relevant dates when transits from Mercury conjunct/square/oppose natal Mercury? Also when does a combined orb become not good? Have got a combined orb of -8 between House Rulers of 1 & 5. Have got a combined orb of 76 for House rulers of 1 & 7. I assume 5th house issues may be more relevant than 7th? Just wondering if combined orb of 76 is bad or good (as am also wondering if i will ever meet anyone again!) : ) IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1789 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2011 06:02 PM
bump.Anyone not getting this and want to ask any questions. IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 414 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 23, 2011 07:19 PM
Once you get a combined orb, what do you do with it? Like, cool the combined orb is 99, what does that meanIP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1789 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2011 09:38 AM
When you have the combined orb, you judge the remaining figure as an aspect of sorts. 99 degrees is a square, overall. This is how you do transits. If you cannot do this, please stop doing astrology, as stated above. No-one in particular that goes to.IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1789 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2011 09:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by RMChex: So if I wanted to look on my chart to see when I was going to have children, what date would I use as a transit?
Pregnancy and having a baby are the same House rulers 1 (self) and 5 (child) Apply the combined orb to these two house rulers for pregnancy/birth of child. IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1789 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2011 09:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Deluded: Coffee, a few hopefully not too silly questions if you get time...I thought I would look at combined orb for Rulers of Houses 1 & 4 to see when I may move house (house been up for sale quite a long time now) Anyway, rulers are both Mercury so kind of don't know where to go from here. I got -151 for Transit Mercury to natal Mercury. Would I need to look at ephemeris for relevant dates when transits from Mercury conjunct/square/oppose natal Mercury? Also when does a combined orb become not good? Have got a combined orb of -8 between House Rulers of 1 & 5. Have got a combined orb of 76 for House rulers of 1 & 7. I assume 5th house issues may be more relevant than 7th? Just wondering if combined orb of 76 is bad or good (as am also wondering if i will ever meet anyone again!) : )
Apologies for the time in getting back to you. Rulers of house 1 and IC for when you move home.(not 4th cusp-which is land on which your house is on) please use WHOLE SIGN house system. If both are Mercury ruled, you just look at the transit aspect of Mercury to natal Mercury. The closer the aspect (or combined orb) the better choice/selection of house you will find. The best aspect is conjunction, which is 0 degrees. The worst aspect is opposition,which is 180 degrees. the ones in the middle are similar in terms of their degree number, but you will find that applying aspect are slightly better than the mirror opposite aspect. Example being an applying trine is better than a separating trine. Combined orb is not the best when the aspect is near to 180, as stated above. House rulers 1 and 5, is better, yes. 76 ain't too bad. Get a rating of 7 or 8 out of 10, by estimate. IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1789 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2011 10:45 AM
The main point to remember when looking at combined orb is take the house rulers you want to look at, then see which of them is the slower moving planet of the two.Look at the aspect the slower moving transit planet makes to the faster moving natal planet first...lets say this is -62. Once you have this, look on the opposite side and the same degree for the point when the aspect is perfect (when the combined orb is equal to zero)In the above example, slower moving transit planet is -62. To find the point when the combined orb = zero, the faster moving planet would be +62, as -62 (separating) added with +62 (applying) is equal to zero. Anyone with questions at all?
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Deluded Knowflake Posts: 47 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted May 24, 2011 05:19 PM
Hi thereI have re-done for moving home using ruler of house 1 and IC (I did originally use 4th house cusp). Now getting a combined orb of –4, which I am a lot more pleased with! (than the original -151). Think I am starting to really ‘get’ all this now thanks to your help so ta v much. It’s fascinating I’m off to look at some more… I may be back… : )
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Yrone Knowflake Posts: 295 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted May 25, 2011 04:03 AM
Question, and apologies if it has been covered already, but search function is shaky for me.What "roles" do you asign the houses? Aka, H1 is signifying the self and in transit prediction would be used for "I" in relation to what's happening. Now H5 has been mentioned as child, what else can it hint at? Like a day where ruler1 and ruler 5 make combined orb of 3° but children don't really enter the picture? IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1789 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2011 10:10 AM
Yes, 1st house is the 'self' or 'I' word. Can also be about your appearance if you just wanted to look at that house ruler. I tend to look at house 1 with another house as you get the 'I' with something else. You can look at other houses too, instead of house 1. An example being death of something, which would be the 12th house from a house. Lets say you wanted to search for death of pet, you would look at house 6 for pets, and then the 12th house from that house of pets, which would be 5th house. Houses 5 and 6 in combine orb for death of pets. House 5 can be about gambling, so maybe with that very small combined orb, you should buy a lottery scratch card or ticket. Were you after a list of what you attribute each house with? I would look on any websites detailing the houses, as a guide, as some could well be wrong. Let me know if I didn't answer your question. IP: Logged |
Yrone Knowflake Posts: 295 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted May 25, 2011 04:15 PM
Yeah I was looking for a list of house meanings. Unfortunately a lot of them are wishy washy just like the description for the signs.I suppose house 5 in this case has more to do with sports and fun IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1789 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2011 04:19 PM
More of a hobby area. Sports is house 9/Sag/Jupiter.Though say you have Sagittarius on the 5th, with Jupiter in Gemini. That can mean one of your recreations is collecting sports cards, like top trumps. IP: Logged |
Yrone Knowflake Posts: 295 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted May 25, 2011 04:28 PM
But what if the sports are a hobby? Or if they are the work? Would they still be H9? I always considered H9 related to education and philosophy etc.And btw, in those transit forecasts, is it to be considered where the house ruler is located? IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1789 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2011 04:49 PM
I guess you can, like saying 6th ruler is in the 1st house....meaning that this person is known for being a workaholic or what job they do.You know what, I make the same mistake that many make when looking at examples. I don't know if sport is house 9/Sag/Jupiter, I only use the work and say so of previous astrologers, without checking. Just assuming. Looking at work too, I use the 6th house ruler for job. The best aspect (most exact and then best aspect) 6th ruler makes to a planet gives an idea of what job is best. I've studied many natal charts of footballers (SOCCER!) and I can only guess that not all of these will have (whatever represents sports or football) Jupiter as best aspect to 6th ruler. I guess it shows options, but that is another post. Sports as hobby has been done in the previous post. IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1789 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2011 07:07 PM
Is anyone NOT getting this, or even better, is anyone GETTING this?Just like algebra. IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1789 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 06, 2011 12:26 PM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 10802 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 06, 2011 12:29 PM
Have to come back and study Coffee Just learned new things on the guitar that taxed my brain  ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs
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