posted May 10, 2011 04:52 PM            

If you have harmonious aspects to Chiron for example in the 10th in Cancer, you will have toughts about overall social health and ask yourself how a self-neglect, and the absence of a fair health care is possible at all. You will be impulsed by Chiron to give your attention. But you may decide not to own the authority. Your power may seem like a source of inner conflicts.

If Chiron is in challenging aspects then you will seek attention, either by problems with your knees (?) or other physical ailments, or you may even temporary (hopefully so) take on a role of someone who is victimized by society. You may also seek attention because of negative childhood experiences. The biggest challenge here may be to accept yourself as you are, and not overwhelm those who are willing and able to help you with the emotional attitude of victimhood.

Overall with Chiron in Cancer you may be concerned with feeling safe on the planet – which you may project onto your relationships. Again if positive, it will motivate you act towards positive change, if negative, it may inspire hurtfulness by those close to you – unintentionally, but it’s part of your seeking the attention and them offering you a lesson.

Does this make sense? Thanks for your thoughts.

posted May 10, 2011 05:06 PM            

I also don't associate Chiron with attention-seeking - but I could associate it with physical & emotional ailments. That doesn't mean the person will seek attention for whatever problems they have. It might be a "chronic" problem (which funnily enough lexigrams to "Chiron")... since Chiron cannot self-heal.

I think the point of the story was -- Chiron was the healer in town. No one else had such abilities. When Chiron got hurt - he couldn't heal himself.. and everyone else couldn't put humpty dumpy back together either (since they were not healers in the first place).

I doubt Chiron was shouting for attention going "Look! Look at me! I'm hurt!!! Somebody help!!!" LOL
When he was the only "healer" in the story.... I mean -Who could've come to his rescue? The town locksmith?

(I'm saying "town" as a matter of speech)

posted May 10, 2011 05:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Do you have Chiron in cancer - yourself?

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I have it at 28 degree. My Sun and Pluto trines it. İt conjuncts with my south node and it opposites My Saturn.

posted May 10, 2011 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Do you have Chiron in cancer - yourself?

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I have it at 28 degree. My Sun and Pluto trines it. İt conjuncts with my south node and it opposites My Saturn.

posted May 10, 2011 05:26 PM            

@dysfunctionalmystic I really just had a thought about it from pure observation, watching people I know around me suddenly walking with canes, and essentially becoming transformed into a walking wound.

Doesn't to "inspire" or to "provoke" go into different directions which I suggested, somehow? Inspire - give attention, provoke - seek attention? Sorry I'm really not trying to put my words in your mouth...

posted May 10, 2011 05:40 PM            

Chiron trine Neptune in the chart - a healing power (that you want to give forth).

Chiron square Neptune - some psychological irregularity which demands (self-)attention and can be used by society.

If I'm completely off, pls share it with me.

posted May 10, 2011 07:20 PM            

Mert - It's not chiron in cancer that brings belonging problems..its chiron "fullstop". In myth - he was abandoned by his mother and rejected by his father.

I would not associate the word attention with chiron. Hmmm I agree with what you said that if anything there's an embarrasment around attention of any kind...especially with the hard aspects.

The positive aspects can make healing more difficult because there is less impetus...the harder aspects make it all too obvious that there is work to do.

posted May 10, 2011 11:17 PM            

This is kind of my bottom line on this for now: My friend Teddy asks me How is my Chiron in 10th in Cancer. Having read about Chiron (BH Clow!) and seeing it in few charts I told him:

If it's well aspected you can provide some social help that will benefit general public health, if it's bad you'll deal maybe with bad knees and hopefully you won't feel like a victim. You'll definitely learn from dealing with it. I roughly repeated what I told him.

posted May 10, 2011 11:27 PM            

I have only good Chiron Aspects (expect opps Uranus, which is generational)

I have Aries Chiron in H1.. It's actually is part of a cradle (if you include chiron)

I have deep wounds, they are definitely internal. You name it Ive been through it..
I feel like I hide them... But maybe I dont really.. Im starting to realize that people see my wounds more than I do... More than I even know... I have locked them up so deep inside, I dont even know how to explain them.. Or connect with them..

I feel its better for me.. We live with the suffering..

I guess you can say I have blocked things, BUT I KNOW I have blocked them.. I'm ok with it..

posted May 10, 2011 11:54 PM            

My question: Does being wounded make you not feeling whole and complete? Is the wound part of your feeling whole and complete?

If you just accept your wound and find it impossible to work on it, isn't your soul bound for another earth journey where you just have to fix it to move on...(to Arcturus, according to Cayce)

posted May 11, 2011 12:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Preomateus:
This is for me so beyond rational. Maybe the heart of human experience. I don't feel only compelled by it, I also have a great respect for the feelings you share.

My question: Does being wounded make you not feeling whole and complete? Is the wound part of your feeling whole and complete?

If you just accept your wound and find it impossible to work on it, isn't your soul bound for another earth journey where you just have to fix it to move on...(to Arcturus, according to Cayce)

Love & Peace

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Me??

Well its not like that... Let me explain a little better... Or at least try.. lol

I know I'm deeply wounded, I know why I am wounded.. I didnt block the what.. what I have blocked is the details of the what.. Meaning I couldnt sit here and tell you exactly what happen, I could only say them as "events" Thats about it..

I feel its best for me.. As long as I know "what" why do I need the details??

I also know it effects me and my personality. Is made me who I am.. Good or bad.. It is what it is..

Make sense??

Now that I am older, people with the same issues seem to seek me out, for advice...

posted May 11, 2011 12:15 AM            

When I was young (idk what age) the Christmas Tree caught on fire..

All I remember is seeing the tree on fire and with in seconds the curtains.. I just stood there in shock...

Well to this day.. I am so afraid to have a xmas tree... I am scared to death of them..
I do have the fake tree.. But you know the kids want the real tree..

posted May 19, 2011 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Preomateus:
Thanks Lioness, I get the picture. This thread really improved how I see Chiron. Just curious: would the Christmas story indicate that your Chiron is somehow involved with Mars, and that Capricorn/Cancer - 10th/4th house axis are involved.

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I have Chiron widely trine Mars. 8 orbs
Chrion sextile NN wide 9 orbs Cap (11th)
Chrion trine MC Sag 3 orbs
Chrion sextile Gem IC

Here are all my chiron aspects to create a cradle
sextile saturn
trine, sun,moon,merc. (mars)
opps uranus.