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lucie
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posted May 24, 2011 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
very well said mochai!secretly i also do assume that in the age of aquarius kundalinirising is going to become the main issue,like you said cause of uranus(ruler of the sign aquarius)..which is *widely squaring pluto and not yet opp saturn...have just looked up the date uranus will enetr my 7th house and that will be may-march 2013,pfff still two years to go,so the years to come may tell if my assumption is right,and i realy agree on what you said about bipolar and schizophrenic and simply everything(also the shamans*),you nailed it pretty well thanks mochai

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posted May 24, 2011 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@mochai how can i find out where my kali is?which program?how¿ and one more...may i publsih your comment in my meditationgroup for others to read?(you can aslo say no )

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posted May 24, 2011 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a yeah and uranus will be 8-10 degrees aries in may 2013 uranus will be 10aries and pluto will be 11 capricorn

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posted May 24, 2011 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure you can if you want to.

I also have this dialogue typed up among several swamis that talks about bipolar and schizophrenia frequently being a kundalini crisis. That may be a better resource. It's the 7th post from the top here http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/002813.html . A soulmate of mine has bipolar that I know has kundalini.

You may also find this listing of free pdf's helpful among other things. The Kundalini and the Chakras book is there as well. http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/downloads.html

To find out natal kaali, I go to astro.com then free horoscopes, horoscopes drawings and calculations, extended chart selection. At the bottom will be an asteroid list, but kaali is 4227. You can type it in and click show the chart and click the link to show transits after it shows your chart and see where it is.

And lastly, if you're interested in transpersonal psychology and spiritual emergence in bipolar disorder, this guy has a great youtube channel but stops short of saying it's kundalini. http://www.youtube.com/user/bipolarorwakingup#p/u/14/xjPpstk8o8w

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posted May 25, 2011 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks dear mochai for all the help!great wooohooo

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posted May 25, 2011 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow!!!!my kaali is 13 capricorn in my 4th house,conjucnt my nadir/IC....this is now close to pluto and so it will stay the coming years...AAA pretty intense

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posted May 25, 2011 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my kaali is the balancepoint of my chiron-mars opp,kaali sextiels my mars and trines my chiron,wow so it is helping me alot,and its 4th house positioning allows me to feelflow with it probably it is something i have been working on during my past life.big surprise!

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posted May 25, 2011 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Juniperb,
Harold's calculation shows that 21st May 2011 should have been a very special day for penance, or celebration or even initiating something for the good of Christianity.
Like an escape from the clutches of the rabble rousing fundamentalists. This would have been a great day to petition the Israelis for releasing all the Qumran Scrolls to the public or for translation, for example. This may have created an inner drive to seek Christ Consciousness in millions of people for those scrolls contain liberating Gnostyic information.

This could have been a great day to apologize for the editing in the Nicene Conference or for the Roman Catholic Church to apologize officially for every life they have taken, perhaps this was a day of unconditional forgiveness had they taken this step.

Not a shred of evidence was there in the numbers that millions would die.

Let us say I find a formula in the digits of Pi that irrefutably connects to prime number generation. Can I say that the end of the world is the 100th Prime in this series because with 100 comes the end of 2 digit numbers? Is that logical?
That is the analogy of Harold Camping's data. Excellent math, very poor deduction.

Edit:
Harold is now claiming October 21st 2011 is the end of the world. I will discuss the astrology of this date later.
October 2011 is generally important because it ends Johan Calleman's "Spiritual Ascension" Period as per his understanding of the Mayan Long Count.
There is no end of Earth in 2011 or 2012 or anytime ever. The Planet Earth undergoes tremendous changes after every precession cycle of 26000 years, that is it.

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posted May 25, 2011 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bethcarliseh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venus:
Actually i think people are more prone to believing in cults today than they ever were.. our ancestors were busy trying to figure out how to make a living and avoid getting tuberculosis they had no time for “spirituality”. today there is an emptiness in people's heart, no more family values, emotions have been sucked out of communications. People need to belong and you'd be surprised what they are willing to believe, dont make me use the "72 virgins.." as an example.. geez

Didn't you just agree with everything that I said?

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posted May 25, 2011 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks mochai and lucy.

I think i experience kundalini symtoms the 22 and it took me by surprise. i was trying to see the connection with the events.

thanks

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posted May 25, 2011 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello mochai!i was posting your comment in my group and people really love it and want me to tell you that it is absolutely fascinating how you connect the dots.one woman would like to get in touch with you if you would like to,maybe we can interconnect somehow besides here? many many thanks again

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posted May 25, 2011 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi nordic!wow awe!you just discovered that you are having kundalini syptoms?wow welcome dear,if you have any question,feel free to ask

@IQ:
cause i am really into the maya calendar and all those theories i am quite familiar with calleman and hand clow,she is actually my main teacher on everything spiritual over the last 10 years...i am looking froward for discussion on the october 2011 end date scenario,although you say there is not end of the world,calleman just publsihed yesterday his new text on the 3rd day we have entered may 20st....he says that after october 2011 he expects that time will never be the same again...so something is up...
here the link from calleman:
http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/Third_day_Ninth_Wave.htm
after all i do resonate most with the pleidian teachings from barbara hand clow,she was giving a conference may 21st and she also mentioned the end of the world predicted for that day,but besides she has shared a wealth of wisdom with everyone calling in,if you would like to listen to that interview(she is also mentioning those kundalini/ascensionsymptoms some of us experience,its really worth the listen i think:
https://www.yousendit.com/dl?phi_action=app%2ForchestrateDownload&rurl=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.yousendit.com%252Ftransfer.php%253Faction%253Dbatch_download%2526batch_id%253DdkJyS3d oZ1A4NVh2Wmc9PQ


ah and if anyone is interested in groupmeditation for each upcoming full moon together with the grand maya itza council(to avoid the bad news about 2012 to come into manifestation)
then you can get complete info over here: http://itzamayamessage.blogspot.com/2011/05/grand-maya-itza-council-invite-for-full.html

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posted May 25, 2011 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i see the hand clow interview link didnt make it so here again:
https://www.yousendit.com/dl?phi_action=app%2ForchestrateDownload&rurl=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.yousendit.com%252Ftransfer.php%253Faction%253Dbatch_download%2526batch_id%253DdkJyS3d oZ1A4NVh2Wmc9PQ

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posted May 25, 2011 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been conciously having the symptoms since late Dec. 2010, and until the day when lying in bed I had an image of two lightstrands spiraling up my spine popped in my head I've never even heard something called Kundalini existed. Whatever.

I've had a small break but it's been getting stronger again ever since Me, Ma, Ve moved into Taurus and on 20th I've felt some kind of merging experience, buh, like something hugging me from inside, dunno hard to explain.

I am tired. Solar Plexus is burning like hell right now. Everytime I try to talk, or get some advice from someone, it's like Mercury retrograde. No reply.

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posted May 25, 2011 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi Yron!

so many people are waking up spiritually at the moment,and really almost no one knows that those interdimensional experiences are related to kundalini,thats why i like to bring this topic up quite often,i wanna make aware!for some people its a little bit of vision for someone else its an intense rush of energies...it is like mochai said,everyone experiences all of these in their own way!and more confusing is the fact that people always call these symptoms ascensionsymptoms,never mention kundalini...so lol...i was 28 years and i walked through the library,a book popped into my eyes,it was called:kundalinisymptoms,i took a fast look and thought,well whatever...then few weeks later i thought i am gonna die...cause i had a full blown kundalini rising without knowing i have it...so its always good to know what all of these stuff is about.you are also waking up and receive visions,if you dont have too much discomfort,then its a blessing i think,i even get jalouse lol )))kundalini hit me hard,and still sometimes it hits me hard started 2 years ago,but i still find it a great topic and willing to learn about it and educate others and right the planetary movements do influence all of these,maybe you can check your natal chart in correlation to those transits to get the clue..

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posted May 25, 2011 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well don't get jealous too early.

The april break I got was probably also because emotionally I was at the end around 19th march and had a nervous breakdown. The weeks prior out of some totally weird reason I thought I was pregnant, and so logical evidence was against it, I couldn't shake that thought and ehr, my body was actually behaving like.

Add on top that I am sort of, in a way, in a heavy karmic relationship (non romantic, really, doesn't mean it isn't harsh on the emotions).

Add on top that I have random songs and thoughts popping up in my head. One time, I was hearings "mine, mine, mine" all day, another time I was starting to think marriage and I was like "wth, no way, where does that crap come from"

I am trying to stay calm, but it's hard not to consider that I am simply going crazy.

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posted May 25, 2011 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi back Yrone!what you experience is not that crazy,everything crazy is something you must label crazy...others wise who is saying something is crazy?and what is normal?for me throughout my whole life,being crazy was never too much too handle,i find it a compliment,nothing in this world is crazy and often what we think of normal is more crazy than the real crazy...lol i am philosophic!luckily i ma readin a superempathic book that has taught me some special skills about how to handle the self,when the self is supersensitive.i know that mlots of what gets through to me is not from me,it exists but it is not necessarily my true self,it can be someone elses thought that you pick up...and becoming crazy is certainly part of the kundalini awakening process,for me the bodystymptoms were draining and the psychic phenomenon were lovely...so i can not tell why,and i know of someone who is schizophrenic since his teens,he is close to 40 by now....anyways i told him about kundalini and he was quite amazed,he could connect the dots and realize for himself that his psychosis started at the same time he got into buddhist chanting...whatever is causing the kundalini to rise,there is a messge in the whole story maybe spared only for later when you can comprehend fully why and how come,time will tell...maybe you could start meditation to calm yourself down and to accept yourself the way you are with all the rare stuff...

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posted May 25, 2011 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucie,

the problem isn't so much the Kundalini or the other psychic stuff in general, dreaming of J, dreaming of missing information, that's actually quite amazing and entertaining.

The problem is that most of it is connected to specific people, who frustrate the hell out of me in "reality". It's that ambiguity that makes me wonder if I am crazy and delluded.

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posted May 25, 2011 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lucie:
my kaali is the balancepoint of my chiron-mars opp,kaali sextiels my mars and trines my chiron,wow so it is helping me alot,and its 4th house positioning allows me to feelflow with it probably it is something i have been working on during my past life.big surprise!

Good for you!

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posted May 25, 2011 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yrone, I'm not 100% on the same page as this guy, but the safeties listed here might help you. Sleeping on your right side should open up your lunar channel more and cool your heat. http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/the-safeties.html

You may be picking up on things psychically, or you may be clearing out your own psychic debris (going by what you described). You can try shielding or just relax. You might be opening to clairaudience too. The last few nights I keep finding myself having clairaudient conversations while in the hypnogogic state. If anxiety or emotional symptoms become too much, it may help to calm down and stop meditating or even any form of spiritual practice to integrate whatever you're going through along with eliminating any stress or work. It's hard for me, but in my visions I'm being told to not read anything for a while because the concentration of intellectual pursuits is too much for me until I can better integrate and balance the energies.

The frustrating part, the people who bother you, may be alluding to something kundalini wants to teach you. The easiest way to handle kundalini is universal unconditional love, which in my opinion and from my limited perspective is our natural state when we leave duality. Kundalini likes to bring up stuff to teach us, albeit sometimes in an obscure manner..

Lucie, I'm glad you found it helpful. I'm trying to keep social obligations to a minimum and half of the time I'm not capable of intellectual dialogue to be perfectly honest, but they can contact me through xxxxxxxxx if they wish. Many of the conclusions I came across from reading other people's work, but they are becoming very evident in my experiences in the people I meet or the personal stories or histories I read. I'd like to say they're my own but I do connect the dots between people's work when I can.

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posted May 25, 2011 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the link Mochai.

I've always been drinking lots of water, but it certainly explains why I keep wanting to eat an entire chicken lately

Dunno how shielding would work

Most of all however it helps being able to talk about "weird" stuff without feeling like I should hand myself over to the asylum.

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posted May 25, 2011 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks mochai will pass it on to the lady who asked for it,we talked for the last time somewhere in january and i do notice how you made giant leaps since that time!you put everything in its rightful place more easily than back few months ago i think,great to have your email,if you dont mind i will write you too ...if i am not too lazy for it,i do not often write emails

HUG*
(i didnt know i can delete posts in here,learned again something new!)
@Yrone,you can best shield yourself with a imagination(for some people this is hard to do) imagine you sit in a bubble that is your own space,no one and nothing is allowed to come in that space of yours,that is your sacred space...just imagine...you can fill that space with all the beauty of your heartdesire.sit with it and feel good and know that this technique can be utilized at any time,wehn you feel for a time out,just sit chill,close your eyes imagine!

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posted May 25, 2011 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yrone, there are a ton of outlets for talking about these things. If you go to the Help and Support section of the kundalini awakening site I gave you and click links there are many groups you can talk about your experiences in. The Kundalini Awakening Group is extremely active. I'd recommend getting a new e-mail for it because it will fill your box.

One thing I've noticed kundalini to be good for, I find very spiritually oriented people who are exceedingly psychically gifted with no effort whatsoever. When I do need an open minded conversational partner to get stuff out without trying to impose their own definition on my experience (and I've noticed there are times when this has to take place to stay sane and oriented) one just manifests itself, and if they don't share my beliefs on it they end up being converted to clairvoyance and chakras as being an established fact and all the other weird stuff gets out and gets vented. It's very nice. Of course, I'm very scientific about a lot of it, which helps.

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posted May 26, 2011 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hugs to all you Kundalini activated ladies.
None of you are crazy or deluded.

Lucie, I have seen 2077 AD in a 'future life' recall. Yep, I got one of that too, not many get this kind of "Out of Body" Experience.
So I am sure 2012 will not be bad news but more of an opportunity for change.

Oct 28 2011 is a valid Mayan calculation by Calleman. It is an opportunity to "plant your Seed" of High Consciousness/Ascension, and then get on with life as usual on Earth.

It is like the last date for all Souls who choose to make this their final Earth Incarnation in the normal 3D Earth. In the next lifeline, all those who desire a better Spiritual Life, and do some selfless acts by 28th October 2011, are sure to incarnate into 4D or 5D in the next lifeline. That is how I understand Calleman's theory.

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posted May 26, 2011 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ hi!

in mayan cosmology it is a known fact that celestial movements all over are synchronized(beyond our own solar system).those who are timekeepers in mayan tradition do not only count cycles of time but they also know what those cycles in time represent.
it is not enough to know one solar year contains approx. 26000 years,it is more to it.each age that the sun goes through contains 2160 years,12x 2160 years makes approximately 26000 years(25,920 years to be precise).the mayan people were familiar with astrology but cause our current system ridicules astrology today,it is not easy to get the message out to everyone.the thing is the age of aquarius s about to begin for another 2160 years nowadays,we are about to close the age of pisces.according to the book *8calendars of the maya* hunbatz men,the main voice of the living maya today,points out that 5 of those ages that have passed are dark ages and that the upcoming age of aquarius is the age of light(alike the age of leo),so i do not think it will be about reincarnation any more,i think what we are becoming soon is more to compare with mochais statement about immortality=given to humans who are successfully evolving towars enlightenment by means of kundalini.all of this is new and as we progress out of the 5x dark ages we are now in the phase of clearing before we can embody the light that is brought about by the sun and its placement,new energies are arriving on earth and.the central star of the pleiades,named alcyone is a star that never moves from dark to light or vica versa,it is forever in the light!so if one wants to make assumptions about what is to come,one needs to dig very very deep....and connect dots in a meaningful way.i do know that the maya,alike the hindu,have always known about kundalini and how it relates to our chakra system...they even know that the seven powers in the human energybody are probably related to the 7 stars of the pleiades....our sun is the 8th star revolving around the pleiades.unfortunately till present time there are no scientific devices that can measure or proove whether this theory is true or not.however,fact is earth,sun+human beings whos bodies are made of earthy elements and are powered by solar energy are very much connected to pleiadian timecycles thats why i follow up the maya tradition cause i sense intuitively that the maya do have lots of answers on what is to come in the near future

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