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Lioness
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posted May 12, 2011 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This may be long... Im sure most people wont read it.. But I need to vent anyways.. I just have to get it out... About Pisces.. Grrrrr..

First of all, we talk we dont talk.. This has been going on for over a year now.. We both ignore each other for the "secret" because of work... this is just our unspoken words to each other...


So we didnt talk for months,and then started again..
Then I texted him Hi YA!!!

He wanted to play games and he replied back idk what your trying to say to me..
HUH??? Ok fine..
I said I was only saying HI.... my bad I wont say Hi anymore then..

He replied back your Silly.
I never replied back after that...

so then a few days later, (at work) he see's me and stops and says how are you? I kept walking not saying anything.. He said LOUDLY I SAID HOW ARE YOU??
I said dont talk to me. I kept walking..
I had some things going on, and I was upset about the previous text, and well I was in a bad mood, and I just didnt want to deal with him, and his lil comments..

Anyways.. A week or so goes by We dont talk at all.. He's being really cold to me, and wont look at my direction at all... I could feel he was ****** at me..

So I texted him.. HI!

He told me You straight dogged me, and now want to say HI? Your a terrible girl, sorry and laters..

I said I didnt dog you, this is what we ALWAYS do to each other.. You know.. and everyone watches us like a hawk, when ever they see us near each other...
I text you hi, and u wanna play games and say you dont know what I mean?? Come ON!!

So yeah I was upset with you...

He said F- everyone else!! You said DONT TALK TO ME... That was cold and I wouldnt have done that to you..

I said Im sorry, but u ever have a bad day, and just want everyone to leave you alone..

He said yeah all the time.. but you SAID DONT TALK TO ME! That was cold..

He said I do have feelings and you might as well of kicked me in the N#$*ts
I would never talk to you like that..

You were wrong and might as well of said F-off..
Dont talk to me???? thats just wrong to say that...

I said you of all people,hate when people tell you they dont like the "way you give friendship" yet you turn around and tell me??

I was upset too, you hurt my feelings all the time, and I dont come back at you with your a terrible person, and laters..

I figure its nothing personal, and maybe it came out wrong, and something..I let it go, bc no matter what I know you dont mean it.. but yet I have to sit and explain myself to you, YOU would NEVER do that.. We would be upset bc "I didnt like the way you show friendship" (his pet peeve..btw)

This is how we have ALWAYS been to each other, you know and I know it!! We both do it for show for work.. NOW you want to be upset with me.. over it..

Fine if you dont want to speak to me anymore I will respect your wishes, and thats that..

then I said Geez what do you want me to do, send you flowers so you will forgive me?????

He LAUGHED. then he said Tiffanys has a mens dept.. You gotta know how to treat a gentleman...

I replied LOL.... Am I forgiven??

he replied back.

yes...

LOL... So we are talking AGAIN!! sighhhh

IDK why...

But Ive been thinking... OMG how many times has he hurt my feelings, and yet I had to kiss his azz to get him to forgive me.. If I get mad at him, he gets mad in return bc I dont see it his way... Seriously???

I have gone out of my way to be his friend at his request... For what??? He gives me barely any friendship back...
But If I bring it up, he says how dare you say you dont like the way I show friendship!!

Come one?? No matter what I do.. Its a loose loose situation...

I have feeling like I HAVE to be his friend... I also hate when we are not talking, I feel so bad then... Its an awful feeling...

Im so frustrated having him in my life, yet I have no choice.. I cant get away...

I want all these feelings and emotions to go away... Why should I even care if I hurt his feelings... HE doesnt care anything at all about me OR my well being...

WHERE IS MY EASY BUTTON!!! DAMN IT!

I sure would push it right now, and make all this go away!

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enchantress299
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posted May 12, 2011 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahaha...

Not to laugh at you, but that's usually the way I feel about Aquariuses, and they are also in an 'off' sign from mine (being a Virgo). It's like we are fascinated by each other, yet at the same time we really really don't 'get' each other.

You two are in 'off' signs too. Leo and Pisces... Both emotional, but in different ways. Leo is like: "PAY ATTENTION TO ME!" and then when Pisces gives their trademark apathetic *shrug* Leo gets mad and yells: "Don't talk to me!" at them, which then hurts Pisces feelings... And Pisces are SOOOO very empathic. You hurt their feelings, and you just hurt their SOUL. *single tear*

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WHERE IS MY EASY BUTTON!!! DAMN IT!

I have been asking that question for YEARS now. lol. My well-intentioned Pisces friend (whom I get along with very well actually) keeps telling me it's because I need to stay away from air and fire signs and concentrate on hanging out with earth and water signs... I think he underestimates how much fire I have in my chart.

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Lioness
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posted May 12, 2011 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey he's not all that innocent and emotional..

He's hurt my feelings tooo.. But kick me to the curb when I do?? Call me a terrible girl!
He's done alot more to me... Than I have to him.. But I agree we are both guilty of it..

That didnt hurt??

He's been hurting my feelings for over a year, and I dont go crying to him talking about you hurt my feelings.... I just figure hes having a bad day and I move past it..

ALSO... he sees me all the time.. he KNOWS when I am in a bad mood, he has even told me, I saw you yesterday, that you were in a bad mood so I knew its best not to talk to you.. I just let you be.. I know you will come around when your ready..

So what changed??? Why didnt he know just to let me be...

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Lioness
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posted May 12, 2011 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what did we have the typical Leo/Pisces fight... LOL

Funny though when I said "you want me to send you flowers"..

All was forgiven... He LAUGHED!

geez I explained it,and said sorry..
Lets move past it.


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posted May 12, 2011 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I may chime in here - I don't know the entire story so I'm sorry if I misunderstand the dynamic.

But...I'm a Pisces and was married to a Leo for 16 years. In my opinion, it doesn't work. Leo will suck the life out of Pisces until there's nothing left and we are completely apathetic to anything and everyone.

Leo fascinates us. We love the attraction, but we're repelled by it too because deep down we know that it's going to end badly for us.

The back and forth Pisces seems to be doing with you is the very same thing I did with my ex because on the one hand, I adored him, but on the other, he overwhelmed me.

The lion adores the fish and the fish is fascinated by the lion...but never the two shall meet. Fire and water don't mix, and one of you will will end up on the short end of the stick.

I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be harsh. Please don't take it that way. It's just I tried for a very long time and no matter how much we loved it each - it just wasn't meant to be. I didn't understand his need for me to orbit around him, and he didn't understand my need to escape into my own world...

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Lioness
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posted May 12, 2011 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JoJo:
If I may chime in here - I don't know the entire story so I'm sorry if I misunderstand the dynamic.

But...I'm a Pisces and was married to a Leo for 16 years. In my opinion, it doesn't work. Leo will suck the life out of Pisces until there's nothing left and we are completely apathetic to anything and everyone.

Leo fascinates us. We love the attraction, but we're repelled by it too because deep down we know that it's going to end badly for us.

The back and forth Pisces seems to be doing with you is the very same thing I did with my ex because on the one hand, I adored him, but on the other, he overwhelmed me.

The lion adores the fish and the fish is fascinated by the lion...but never the two shall meet. Fire and water don't mix, and one of you will will end up on the short end of the stick.

I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be harsh. Please don't take it that way. It's just I tried for a very long time and no matter how much we loved it each - it just wasn't meant to be. I didn't understand his need for me to orbit around him, and he didn't understand my need to escape into my own world...



Ohh no I appreciate any and all comments

I do understand the need to escape.. I am a Pisces Asc and have Mars Sq Neptune..


We are alot alike.. Yet different...

Yeah I do know I can come across cold sometimes... But OMG he's ruthless.. Dont let the pisces fool you...
He's way stronger than me.. His words alone can send me into shell shock..
Actually I see him as one of the strongest men I have EVER met... Thats part of what I like about him so much..
His aura just screams (Im a protector)

We both "pretend" at work and we both had this understanding.. Its just the way it is... Maybe he doesnt want to pretend anymore...
If thats the case than all he has to do is speak up... He wants it public.. Ill bring it out with a bang and throw everyone for a loop...

He's turned his back on me before,when I walked into the room, pretending I wasnt there... It hurt, but I also know its our show to the world... Its what we do..

I would do absolutely anything for him, He knows it.. I know he would do anything for me... We never let the "show" get in the way..

Idk.. why this time it hurt him...
You should see this man go off, man he can knock anyone to the floor with his words..

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posted May 12, 2011 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lioness:

Ohh no I appreciate any and all comments

I do understand the need to escape.. I am a Pisces Asc and have Mars Sq Neptune..


We are alot alike.. Yet different...

Yeah I do know I can come across cold sometimes... But OMG he's ruthless.. Dont let the pisces fool you...
He's way stronger than me.. His words alone can send me into shell shock..
Actually I see him as one of the strongest men I have EVER met... Thats part of what I like about him so much..
His aura just screams (Im a protector)

We both "pretend" at work and we both had this understanding.. Its just the way it is... Maybe he doesnt want to pretend anymore...
If thats the case than all he has to do is speak up... He wants it public.. Ill bring it out with a bang and throw everyone for a loop...

He's turned his back on me before,when I walked into the room, pretending I wasnt there... It hurt, but I also know its our show to the world... Its what we do..

I would do absolutely anything for him, He knows it.. I know he would do anything for me... We never let the "show" get in the way..

Idk.. why this time it hurt him...
You should see this man go off, man he can knock anyone to the floor with his words..


Oh yeah...don't ever underestimate the fish. We are way stronger than most people realize and we can cut you to floor in a heart beat, no matter who you are. We are also fierce when necessary.

I would say the best thing to do then is be honest with him. I love it when I don't have to guess where someone is at. Because when I'm not sure how someone feels about me, I usually act like I don't give a crap (self preservation). We're like the Cancers in that way...

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posted May 12, 2011 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess I just got him off guard... I guess he wasnt expecting me to say something like that.. But I was upset for him pulling games on me via text.. We never do that.. Our texts are real... That was BS...

He does know I adore him...
There's no doubt there...

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posted May 12, 2011 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This sounds like something he will not forget and that he will bring up again in every argument you have from now - and until the end of your lives.

I've been there ^


Same thing... He acted standoffish first.
I had actual problems - my grandmother had died and I was depressed.
I avoided a lot of ppl (him included) for months.
He has never forgotten this and he was a jerk and half to me about it and would continue to behave this way to this day (years later).
He took it so personally - it's not even funny.

Your Pisces doesn't seem quite as demented ^

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posted May 12, 2011 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh - I'm not sure if I've asked you this before but - Does he have an Aries Mercury?

Because usually it's the Pisces with Aries Mercury who go off verbally - as you described.

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posted May 12, 2011 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Oh - I'm not sure if I've asked you this before but - Does he have an Aries Mercury?

Because usually it's the Pisces with Aries Mercury who go off verbally - as you described.


No his Mercury is in Pisces it oops his Virgo Saturn by 2 orbs..

He also has Sun conjunct Mercy kinda wide though 8 orbs...

He goes off on people alot...

He was making a scene yesterday with a co worker, going off on on him... It echoed..
I got him and said whats the deal why you making a scene...

He said he said bc thats what I do.. Thats how I have to talk to these guys... He says ahhh its just guy talk.. dont worry about it... Its how we are..

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love being Aries
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posted May 13, 2011 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i will not talk astrology here, i will simply tell you what i got in return from a relationship like this
i thought we were meant to be together, he also said that it had to be love, no matter what happens, our love always survives and this is really actually just love, nothing else bla bla bla

and then end was something like, him getting married to someone else and me staring wide-eyed at his pictures on face book, only because he didn't bother telling me.
after that he never picked my calls or return my texts [simply F-off behavior]
i threw off my dignity, my ego and everything just for this guy, just because i had this GUT-FEELING that we are destined to be together, and whatever happened to destiny i don't know that but i sure learnt my lesson very hard way. Men are just like that, seriously m not an anti-men but they are just like that. they are players by nature, if not all, then majority at least. they just like going with flow, because for them keeping emotions and involvements separate is easy, while on other hand women involve emotions in everything, even mere acquaintanceship.
m sure you all are really experienced than me LOL but sometimes life teaches you things which you wouldn't have learnt otherwise.
Lioness i will strongly suggest that you get him out of mind and out of sight, you are going to regret it seriously. he doesn't deserve you, it shows.i know its hard for you, but eventually you will get hurt and trust me that's going to be worse than the one you will get by saving yourself now.
sometimes things are just meant to happen, and they do, sometimes they are not and they don't and they won't, no matter how much you try.

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posted May 13, 2011 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If all men were like this - I'd be a lesbian.

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posted May 13, 2011 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If all men were like this I'd be celibate.

I've had a lot of men play mind games with me, too, and this does look like a mind game. It seems as though he's prodding to see how far he can take this mess with you.

I finally got out of a relationship with a Virgo man who did similar things. He'd play games with me but would be surprised when I decided enough with the playing games, then he'd go in begging mode and told me he loved me and didn't want to lose me and since I felt sorry for him, I went back. He saw that as a sign that I loved him too and though that gave him the opportunity to play games again. The more he did it, the more I ultimately wanted to go of course and after he realised I saw through his whole game-playing tactic, he started to pull other, more agressive tricks to make me "forgive" him, such as threatening to kill himself and other passive agressive behaviour, scare tactics and downright harrasment until I finally gave in to make him stop harassing me.

The point to this all is that what my ex did to me was an attempt to gain control over me, a power struggle. The more he got what he wanted, the more power he got over me, and I'm sometimes ashamed to say that it worked a treat.

Anyway, when I read about the Pisces guy demanding you to forgive him for what you did to him and it not comparing to the hurt he has caused you from playing games with you, the first thing that came to my mind was "power struggle". In which case I would suggest to break all contact and run as far away from him as you can. The guy might love you (after all, my ex loved me too, albeit in a posessive kind of way), but such behaviour isn't healthy for you, and if there's one thing I learned since my last relationship, it's that we always have to look out for number 1 first and find a healthy relationship.

If the man is willing to change to give you that healthy relationship and is able to, then that is grand, but most of those type of men don't even realise they're in the wrong. Making them realise is more often than not a completely pointless effort.

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posted May 13, 2011 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahh.. You guys misunderstand me and him.. I guess in my rant, I didnt really explain..

We are not a couple, we are only friends,but we have a pact to always be there for the other, no matter what...

We are both rude to each other, we both do it.. I know its wrong but its just what we do.. ITs how we are.. but deep down we both know its just for show, and neither of us has ever taken any offense to it..

Especially enough offense to say See Ya!!
Your a mean person...

That really hurt coming from him.. We both do it, so why all of a sudden was I the mean one??
We never question the other one about our actions... We just dismiss it.. He didnt do that this time.. He was willing to end the friendship over a phrase.. Even though he promised me no matter what he would always be there for me...

I admit I have ended the friendship several times, but never like that.. I went to him and told him I needed space from him, bc our friendship was causing me alot of confusion.. BUT it he needs me, I will be right there...

He basically told me, he wont be there anymore, that Im an awful person..
I would have never called him a terrible person.
I have nothing but the upmost respect for him..
Even if I am upset with him, I would never turn my back on him no matter what..

He was willing to do that.. IDK... That really really bothered me...

It went against our pact or agreement.

No matter what he cant hate me... That would be the worse case scenario.. He made a promise to never hate me...
He should stand by that...
I do...

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posted May 13, 2011 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess also what makes me feel the worst about him.. Is I want a guy that makes me feel the way he does...

I try and I go and and meet, but no one makes me feel like he does.. They are not him...
No on compares..

Any guy that I meet doesnt make me feel like he does, so I keep loosing interest in everyone really fast, and want nothing to do with any guy, besides him...
This really sucks...
Its so depressing...

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posted May 14, 2011 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, friendship is a relationship, not a contract so this "pact" thing is like something really absurd. you can not make pacts with people to be your true friends and always be there in time of need, specially when you are not actually giving them anything in return.

you are being defensive about him and that is bad. why he did that to you which you would never have done to him? well this explains the theory i gave you that for men,its easy to keep emotions separate from other things in life, for women its not.

third, you have used the word "we" too often, that is a plain indication that you have illusions regarding this relationship, friendship whatever it is. you are just assuring yourself that things were as cool as they seem to you while to any outsider, like me, they are NOT.

no one makes you feel like him, and no one will, so stop weeing over it and feel something NEW with someone else, rather pitying yourself and then if you are thinking that that feeling was good, then which feeling is good and which is not in entirely up to you. why would you want to feel anything which will eventually result in pain and hurt? n i just know that a relationship/friendship which can be broken once can be broken "n" number of times where n= natural numbers.. just a little joke

it will take time, i won't say you do it in an hour, or a day, but eventually you will get through this phase,only if you decide to not bear this pain anymore, and the one who gives you this pain. this is life, things happen, move on!! everyone does!

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