posted May 14, 2011 08:53 PM            

asc- scoprio
sun- Cancer
moon- Sag
venus- Gemini
mars- Pisces
mercury- Gemini

Well...i feel like it's a long story but basically, he's been ignoring me for a few months. He'd walk out of a room when I walked in and practically make himself invisible or so that I could never see him. He'd basically hide from me. I've asked him a few times in the past to talk (i think i hurt him pretty badly? i either hurt him or made him despise me and i can't tell) he's never said no to talking, but first he said he wasn't ready. then he...I asked him to talk and he said he couldn't then I saw him the next day and he did the avoiding/ignoring me and I asked him what his deal was and he said I should have walked up to him and said hi. Then I asked a few weeks later, and he said yes, but then backed out and said "but i'm still willing to." And then whenever I saw him he'd keep himself in my blind spot basically!! And seemed like he didn't want to talk....

So, I'd finally given up all hope until I met another guy who was very forward and obvious at a party and I liked him a lot, but then this cancer was suddenly around. And i've been seeing him places lately and he's making himself visible again but I don't have it in me to even try to talk to him and get rejected again!!

Is there anyway of getting a straight idea about what he wants without asking him again!! I feel like, 4 times is way too many times to ask someone to talk and that maybe he's just trying to get me to take the hint he doesn't like me AT ALL and I'm just stupid. Should I forget about this guy?? I'm starting to think, maybe he's a fool!!

posted May 15, 2011 12:22 AM            

My ex had the same placements except he had a scorpy moon.
He was a pathological liar and compulsive cheat.

I think the whole venus square mars thing in their natal, combined with the gem placements, the pisces and cancer makes them very manipulative, have tendencies to go hot and cold, lie, be selfish and just ... Beware lol.

posted May 15, 2011 08:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
What I'm getting at is this guy is taking you around in emotional circles for whatever you did to hurt him and I don't even think he realizes it anymore.

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ah! i was thinking that! like, what if i did get what i wanted, and then he turned his back on me right after to get back at me! bc i'd hurt him just as much. but thought, no one would ever do that on purpose/vindictively but now idk. i'm not playing his game anymore bc i feel like i will just lose! esp. after everything i feel like no matter what it will feel like i lost idk why!

posted May 15, 2011 11:35 AM            

I was in a similar situation with a Scorpio guy years back..and they pretty much act similar when they're hurt, I don't care what anyone says. And while it did have somewhat of an outcome, I wish I hadn't wasted that much time on him. If anyone plays games these days I pretty much become my Gemini Venus and move on to the next. There's a difference between loyalty and hanging on to someone's BS when there's no need to.

random question: are you a pisces?

posted May 15, 2011 12:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
If you really feel that way, then you have your answer. I don't know the situation and whether or not he justified in his hurt/anger but things seem to have become too toxic to continue.

I was in a similar situation with a Scorpio guy years back..and they pretty much act similar when they're hurt, I don't care what anyone says. And while it did have somewhat of an outcome, I wish I hadn't wasted that much time on him. If anyone plays games these days I pretty much become my Gemini Venus and move on to the next. There's a difference between loyalty and hanging on to someone's BS when there's no need to.

random question: are you a pisces?

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posted May 15, 2011 01:01 PM            

Question - did you pull the plug on the relationship early because you were uncertain? Had assumptions? Being vindictive or playing games yourself (somewhat unknowingly and maybe out of habit or being reactionary to Cancer like traits? Maybe even Gemini traits?)

I must admit that the worst impulses and reactions I have ever had in my life were with a Gemini Sun with Venus in Cancer. Now I am dealing with the opposite. Cancer Sun with Venus in Gemini. I am learning to curb my impulses with him.

If nothing else, look to learn from the relationship and evolve in such a way that when certain scenarios play out again with someone else - be they friend, companion, family member etc., you will be more grounded and seek harmony rather than toxicity.

posted May 15, 2011 01:12 PM            

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The truth is he is very justified! I'm an aquarius! With venus & asc in capricorn and mars & moon in sagittarius. I'll admit I was the toxic one at first but wanted to change that. Sometimes I think I should just talk to him since he's making himself "visible" again but idk how everything would turn out and I don't want history to repeat itself!

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Well I guess you can try again since you really have nothing to lose. And I do agree a genuine and sincere apology and promise that things will be different works best with us.

posted May 15, 2011 09:28 PM            

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Originally posted by danjor73:
Question - did you pull the plug on the relationship early because you were uncertain? Had assumptions? Being vindictive or playing games yourself (somewhat unknowingly and maybe out of habit or being reactionary to Cancer like traits? Maybe even Gemini traits?)

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