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sunshine9
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posted May 18, 2011 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Knowflakes,

I have a cluster of planets in Capricorn in my natal chart, and right now, transiting rxPluto is conjunct 2 of them. It's driving me nuts, and just today I realized that my resentment toward any perceived attempts to control me, should perhaps be reconsidered.

Case #1: For some time, as tPluto approached my nMoon (at 5' Capricorn), I began having issues with my mother - I started to rebel against what I saw to be attempts to change my thoughts and/or decisions. Now I'm wondering if it's me.. She does tend to nudge my dad & me toward handling things they way she feels they ought to be handled - she is often right - but while I've always welcomed her advice, in the past little while, I've grown to resent the feeling of being herded. I'm a grown woman, I should know what to do in my life and when to do it. Oftentimes though, it has irked me that she is right, and that I'm not taking charge to make progress in areas of my life where I really should.

Case #2: I've been finding myself getting rather irritated with people at work lately. Pompous statements have always irritated me, as well as grand statements made my people who want to seem like no one cares as much about furthering company goals like they do, not even the CEO. Lately though, I've been feeling prickly about such people also trying to command me to do certain action items, or giving me deadlines - these are people outside of my boss or the CEO to whom I also report. These are the same people who start sentences with "I'd like to do x,y,z", or "I'd really rather not do that", and proceed to say things that make me feel stupid for not having considered what they have obviously thought out in so much detail. Sometimes the CEO overrules, but at other times, even I have to admit their idea seems better. It still irks me to no end, and often I have the urge to contradict just for the sake of it. I'm wondering now if I'm the one with the problem. I've been getting irritated a lot lately. It can't be all of them - it must be me.. I drew up the transit chart today after a difficult meeting that had me seething from frustration, and sure enough - there's rxPluto one minute away from conjuncting my nMercury (at 7'08" Capricorn)!!

And I'm generally a nice person who is happy for other people's successes, and supportive of group goals. I really don't like how I'm feeling these days. I think it must be the effects of transiting rxPluto conjuncting my nMoon (at 5'Cap) and nMercury (at 7'Cap). I don't want to take the easy way out for something I'm going through by blaming a transit, but I think it is highly likely here.

I don't know, what do you guys think?

More importantly, can you please advise me on how to handle this in a positive manner? Pluto's been going back & forth over my Moon & Mercury for some time, and I want to find a way to survive it without going bonkers!

Thanks much for your input!
Sunshine

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VenusDiSirius
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posted May 18, 2011 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
U don't get a handle on Pluto... U defy,and Pluto will make a beggar of u,in every sense. U HAVE to change.
I know it could mean u r treacherous towards urself,as if u r loser,u got beaten down,but it's not; It is the most natural thing that will happen to u,and it has been brimming for a very long time,and the moment has come. All those lessons will left huge impression on ur soul(Moon),like a scarlett sign,only in good way,and u will be new person. U will laugh at all this once u go through this conj... 'How could I ever be/act like that..' As I like to say,plutonic forever,with Pluto conj Moon.
Introspection,introspection,introspection! Ur mind will run amok as u start remembering stuff from ur past,getting the true light of everything. Once u grasp it(sth that bothers u) just confront it,say it out loud,get a closure. It's the time. The whole process of u coming to terms with ur issues is strong sign that not just u moved on but evolved on.
Also,it could be time of some intriguing love affair. Eyes wide open,will be,Pluto ensures that
Unfortunately,I can't give u advice on work collegues... I mean,I can,it involves slight violence...
Best of Luck!!

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Lioness
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posted May 18, 2011 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohh yeah... Ive been having hard pluto transits right now also.. I am also having pluto sq pluto
pluto opps vensus..
pluto conjunct jupiter

Ive been a mess, Ive been getting these love lessons, after over a year, I figured out I have to change my so called love life...

Its really hard to explain... But I have issues in this area.. (t-square) its all been hitting me in the head... NOW I know I have to change...
Im working on it

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sunshine9
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posted May 19, 2011 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VenusDiSirius,

Eek! The way you put it, sounds like a scary ride.. but thanks for what you said. I had completely forgotten that Pluto means breaking down old structures to make way for the new. I'm not to the point of having revelations yet - still reeling from realizing how paranoid & cranky these transits are making me, but hopefully I can mature over time in my response. The love affair sounds great.. I am in a relationship so perhaps this can help my relationship at the very least! Though, I gotta say, I'm personally not faring so well there either. I'm involved in a long-distance relationship with this sweet guy I've known for years, but given how not all guys are great at verbalizing their feelings, I find myself getting paranoid at times that I'm in it deeper than he is, questioning his commitment to it when he keeps surprising me (pleasantly). I keep telling myself to see things for what they are, realize we are good, and back off the darker effects of Pluto!

I have an idea on how I can deal with work stuff.. realize that people are not trying to control me, that I can graciously allow them their say in matters of their jurisdiction, but be firm & assertive if they're stepping into mine. That may be the only way to survive..

Lioness,

Ouch, I'm sorry.. Pluto opp Venus sounds rough! I wonder what Pluto conjunct Jupiter does - is it changing the expansive part of your personality? You must have Venus in Cancer & Jupiter in Capricorn, I'm guessing. Love lessons.. Are you in a relationship?

I haven't begun to wrap my head around Pluto yet - for a few years, it was Saturn until I got to really understanding what he was about. But do stick around here with me, we can learn to survive and perhaps thrive through Plutonian transits!


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Benedict Moon*
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posted May 19, 2011 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I might have an idea, but its no comfort. Pluto has going through alot of my planets in the 6th and 12th for the last few years. I can say for sure that I've definitely been able to use its crossing of my Mercury Neptune opposition to my advantage. I've actually been able to focus on things I wouldn't have been able to in the past.


And tbh, I have to say I'd rather deal with a pluto transit than a Saturn one. There seems to be *reasoning* behind why pluto brings what it does...atleast in my life. I actually learn something from these transits, while with Saturn....nothing but a ton of ****** luck.

I'm actually recieving a nice trine from T-Pluto to my Moon right now which I'm trying to figure out how its manifesting, but I'm shaking my head. Mother relationship is fine, I did change residences again, but not much thats eventful.

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abcd efg
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posted August 19, 2011 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am going through Pluto Transit through ASC as well as Saturn Seven Year Cycle through 10th hs. I think I am going to change totally. I was such a nice person once upon a time. Nowadays i am finding myself just slipping away. I hope what emerges is better though the churning now doesn't make it any easy to see clearly. Bah!!! Yes i think we ought to stick together and update on the progress.

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CosmicKarma360
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posted August 19, 2011 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just posted this reply on another Pluto thread, but it applies here as well. Oh! That tricky Pluto! Don't know though, it does seem that going with the flow keeps The Beast at bay. Or at least Pluto lets you get on with things without too much hassle. Kind of like Saturn in a way. You have to do things *their* way, or face the consequences. Anyway, here's my other post.

t.Pluto's been working its magic over my SN now for, like, several years. At first, it was pretty bumpy. Now though, it's much easier to handle. (Maybe due to t.Jupiter in a trine with it) Right now, Pluto is pretty much bang-on my SN, and old, old memories are popping up like crazy. What gets to me is how *vivid* they are. Tiny details are crystal clear. It's like the movie "The Matrix". When I close my eyes, I can see it all, like I'm standing right there in the room again.
Been learning transformation. Letting things that need to go, to just go. Really seeing a lot about my past, and how it brought me to where I am now. Not always pleasant, but necessary. Definitely feel a big change taking place, and a new beginning to start. This should be the last of Pluto over my SN. By the Fall, it'll move on. Waiting for it now to Quincunx my n.Venus.

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NickiG
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posted August 19, 2011 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you take pluto off his high chair and slap him hard!! show pluto your strong enough to handle his power and he'll go easier on you

side note: OMG SUNSHINE, YOUR IN DURHAM!!!?????

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tuxedoMask
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posted August 19, 2011 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey, kinda sounds like those very same placements are being squared by uranus, jus saying.. but my advice would be to work on it and find a way to deal with it because you don't want any frustrations to be projected out and manifested through other situations or people especially with uranus!!!!!

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