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Topic: Being
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bethcarliseh
Knowflake Posts: 135
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 18, 2011 11:59 PM
  
Think about this. When are you really Born? I mean you come out the vag that is your official birthdate but when do you consciously become born? You can "exist" for 5 years and be unaware that you are a being. Does anyone remember their first 5 years of life in detail? IP: Logged |
hmm
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posted May 19, 2011 01:13 AM
can you really say you're truley being right now?kind of wanted to add,
part of 'being' is interacting and reacting to/with your environment..right??
just think how much a toddler interacts with their environment. we absorbe the most amount of information when we're young.
we learn a language and a whole bunch of other things that we take for granted and don't even think about!!! me again...just wanted to comment on all the remembering thing everyone is bringing up.
50 years down the line, you're probably not going to remember everything you did at age 20....does that mean at that point (when you were 20) you were not 'being'?
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pivy88
Newflake Posts: 18
From: Rocheport, Missouri, USA
Registered: May 2011
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posted May 19, 2011 02:13 AM
No, I can't remember anything really from the time I was born to 5 years old. I can only "remember" because I've seen a lot of pictures and a few home videos. That is all. I think we don't really catalog our lives or want to or realize how important it is to us until we are much much older, probably not until high school or up. And even then we don't think of it as cataloging our lives, we just see it as, oh, let's take pictures all the time or something..------------------
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Swift Freeze
Knowflake Posts: 53
From: Gazing at the stars
Registered: Nov 2009
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posted May 19, 2011 06:34 AM
I remember little things, such as taking a trip to hospital because I split my head on a coffee table. I remember falling asleep on the way home. I remember my first day at Playschool. I remember Nursery when I was 4. My teacher Mrs Morgan and a number of my classmates. I remember some of the things we did, play with sand, and connecting things, marble runs and stories. I cannot account for everything before 5 but neither am I completely devoid of memories. I've always been blessed with a good memory. It can be a curse as well though, when I remember things people have said or done and I bring them up. Depending on the context they can either get annoyed, if what they said or did was hypocritical, or they get a little creeped out that I remember exactly what they said or did.The question of whether you are aware of your own existence is a good but tough one to answer. As children we are blissfully oblivious of the world and all that it contains we are quite happy in our little bubbles. Then the dreaded, growing up occurs, oh no! ------------------
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Graelwyn
Knowflake Posts: 40
From: England
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 19, 2011 06:53 AM
Some would consider the date we were born to be the day we were conceived. I mean, we are breathing and heart beating long before we slide through that opening. IP: Logged |
bethcarliseh
Knowflake Posts: 135
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 19, 2011 07:04 AM
yeah but when you were born you weren't aware that you existed. I mean, if you were, you could look back and say, "Oh I remember coming out of my mothers womb". You can't do that because when you came out of your mothers womb, it was exactly like not existing, from a cognitive standpoint. So, you go through the first few years existing but you aren't even aware that you exist from a reflective standpoint. It is when a person begins to reflect is when they become "BORN" and they realize that they exist. Now, think about this in expansion to consciousness. What if we have a consciousness that isn't "BORN" yet and we are waiting to realize it. IP: Logged |
mochai
Knowflake Posts: 805
From: Charon
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 19, 2011 03:33 PM
I think you can remember thoughts very early on depending. I vaguely remember when I was in diapers and people were trying to potty train me, wondering why exactly I had to learn how to use the restroom when everyone would do everything for me. Also why I had to crawl if people would carry me (my mom has confirmed this.. I was slow to do these things). I also remember wearing these 80's sunglasses with adult cowboy boots and a rainbow shirt and diapers, thinking I was so cool looking and having my picture taken (I've seen that photo). I remember being at the house of some family wearing this black velvet dress and wondering what everyone was doing (all that around 2.. maybe younger). I remember when I was 2 1/2 waking up to this eerie glow outside my door and being afraid. Eventually my step dad rushed in and grabbed me and my sister who complained that she wanted to go back to sleep (there was a green and white comforter we were using with leaves and vines). I then remember him holding both of us (me over his left shoulder) while running out of the house as we saw fire burst out of one of the front windows. He put us in the back of this silver sedan by a barn and ran back inside and I was terrified for him (my sis remembers this too and was a year older). We slept at a neighbors house with rainbows painted on the walls.. was some kind of nursery. When I was four.. nearly 5.. I remember walking across the street seeing cars coming in the distance and telling my mom to hurry up because she was going to get hit by a car. Afterwards I felt great, like I had saved her life. We lived in an upstairs apartment of a white older building on a corner with green accenting around the windows.Yeah there are certain cognitive parts of the brain that develop at different times. I can't remember what they are, but they develop differently and sometimes at different ages for different people. I think on the soul you get a different kind of awareness. You know how the ancient egyptians said the brain doesn't do anything? I think you carry a lot on the soul level. IP: Logged |
rajji
Moderator Posts: 701
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posted May 21, 2011 09:59 AM
Does it matter to remember what you went through during those tender years?
I do think memory lapse is a part of a divine design.
Its like asking what happened while you were asleep?Sometimes you wake up with a shiver and sometimes with a smile.
But you are what you are at that time and age.
Time and age is a very complex theory.I believe it is a cycle which keeps repeating itself.IP: Logged |
NickiG
Moderator Posts: 3673
From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
Registered: Jul 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 12:36 PM
you start remembering around 3-4 years of age...i have memories of being that young like talking to my pastor or falling asleep in the pews in my fathers lap...i have vague memories of being at Busch gardens and even vaguer memories of my father when my parents were still together------------------
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Randall
Webmaster Posts: 8501
From: The Goober Galaxy
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 21, 2011 01:19 PM
I have memories from around a year old. I could understand what was being said to me, although I couldn't speak myself. So, be careful what you say around toddlers. But I think most people don't have recall until after a few years. Astrologically speaking, the birth chart becomes imprinted when we take our first breath.IP: Logged |
Saraintheski
Knowflake Posts: 109
From: Philly
Registered: May 2011
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posted May 21, 2011 05:25 PM
Interesting , I remember first few years pretty well it's only between being 8 old and 12 that seem blurry I remember being in situations that would be very serious now and just feeling simple stuff and how huge everything felt , I remember putting toys in my mouth and when I was three hiding under my bed after they had a halloween block party and someone had a scary mask on , I remember crying for a book after seeing some other woman buy it for her daughter idk weird stuff like that and then I went through a phase were I just wanted to be a grownup .. Now I'd give anything not too have a real care in the world..IP: Logged |
abcd efg
Knowflake Posts: 396
From: India
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 22, 2011 09:59 AM
BEING is living in the moment. Nothing to do with memory. And when we are remembering we are still LIVING in the moment only i.e. BEING. One cannot remember in the past. One LIVES always in the NOW = PRESENT = BEING. So when we were less than 5 we were BEING then too. We can retrieve it if we can enter another realm, its all stored.Anyway, on the remembering part yes i do remember a couple of things of that age. Once i was sitting at the dining table as my father was having his breakfast. I was just watching him eat and he was talking to me. Just then one fly came up and started troubling us. So i picked up the net (we had one round dome shaped wired net made of iron wires) and plonked it on the fly. It got caught in one go to my amusement and we had a good laugh. It hovered and hummed. I let it go later. I still remember the scene very vividly.
Another one was about a boy my age who was terribly naughty. We came up home in the evening after play. They were our neighbours and were in the corridor when we had some dialogue or argument. I don't exactly remember and the next thing i knew was i was flat on the floor and he was jumping (actually) on my chest. His sister, same age as both of us, was watching confused. I lost my breath and thought i was dying. Just then his father saw us and he got a good firing and little spanking. Little because my mother was out with all the shouting and interfered when he was getting beaten up and i got angry at my mother (in my mind) for saving him.  IP: Logged |
abcd efg
Knowflake Posts: 396
From: India
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 22, 2011 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by mochai:
I think you can remember thoughts very early on depending. I vaguely remember when I was in diapers and people were trying to potty train me, wondering why exactly I had to learn how to use the restroom when everyone would do everything for me. Also why I had to crawl if people would carry me (my mom has confirmed this.. I was slow to do these things). I also remember wearing these 80's sunglasses with adult cowboy boots and a rainbow shirt and diapers, thinking I was so cool looking and having my picture taken (I've seen that photo). I remember being at the house of some family wearing this black velvet dress and wondering what everyone was doing (all that around 2.. maybe younger). I remember when I was 2 1/2 waking up to this eerie glow outside my door and being afraid. Eventually my step dad rushed in and grabbed me and my sister who complained that she wanted to go back to sleep (there was a green and white comforter we were using with leaves and vines). I then remember him holding both of us (me over his left shoulder) while running out of the house as we saw fire burst out of one of the front windows. He put us in the back of this silver sedan by a barn and ran back inside and I was terrified for him (my sis remembers this too and was a year older). We slept at a neighbors house with rainbows painted on the walls.. was some kind of nursery. When I was four.. nearly 5.. I remember walking across the street seeing cars coming in the distance and telling my mom to hurry up because she was going to get hit by a car. Afterwards I felt great, like I had saved her life. We lived in an upstairs apartment of a white older building on a corner with green accenting around the windows.Yeah there are certain cognitive parts of the brain that develop at different times. I can't remember what they are, but they develop differently and sometimes at different ages for different people. I think on the soul you get a different kind of awareness. You know how the ancient egyptians said the brain doesn't do anything? I think you carry a lot on the soul level.
 I agree on this in the sense we carry it in the different astral bodies and not the brain. That is just an instrument. By the way mochai your experiences are pretty interesting. IP: Logged |
bethcarliseh
Knowflake Posts: 135
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 22, 2011 11:39 AM
imagine if you came out of the womb with a complete recollection of your past life and your stored up after lives. IP: Logged |
bethcarliseh
Knowflake Posts: 135
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 22, 2011 11:42 AM
the day that I was "Born", I guess was the day I ended up in this crib. I was yelling for something to come get me because I couldn't communicate. So this man came in, who was my dad and I tried to point and cry for this car that I wanted on the shelf. I would cry to indicate that he made the wrong selection. When he finally got to the car that I wanted, I stopped crying. I still remember. It was a snoopy car.IP: Logged |
Saraintheski
Knowflake Posts: 109
From: Philly
Registered: May 2011
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posted May 22, 2011 11:44 AM
"Perhaps the real heart within us it not just a pump. Perhaps the real heart within us is about love and faith. Perhaps the physical body is not who we really are. Perhaps we are these invisible souls walking around and the body is just an instrument or metaphor for something we are trying to learn."
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