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Topic: Cap rant!
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CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 783 From: US Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 04:39 PM
I may have 5 planets in Cap, but people with strong Cap in them like sun or moon drive me crazy! I am NOT like them. They care way to F-ing much about their image! Has anyone else noticed this? I have my Venus in Cap, Idk maybe its my Neptune and Uranus conjunction that changes things. I understand somewhat, yeah, I'd like to be portrayed in a certain way and I can be conscious of what I do or say so I won't be takin the wrong way at times. But when your image comes before your friends and family and you say and do fake things I cannot stand it! I recently noitced that 90 percent of the people I'm close to have a cap sun or moon, no wonder I never want to see them! UGH!!IP: Logged |
Shalimar Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted May 21, 2011 04:57 PM
I'm curious, what degree of cap is your venus in? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 9576 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 05:04 PM
What is your exact conjunction with your Venus. Which house has Cap on the cusp and in which house is Saturn located ?------------------
"Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 783 From: US Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 05:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Shalimar: I'm curious, what degree of cap is your venus in?
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CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 783 From: US Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 05:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: What is your exact conjunction with your Venus. Which house has Cap on the cusp and in which house is Saturn located ?
Whoops I lied haha Its my mars that has neptune and urnaus conjunction, I was all worked up. But its in Cap too :\But my Venus is conjunct Saturn 1 LOL I do see it in me....the goal orienetedness, cheap, I can be very insecure and nervous. But UGH! Maybe its just my Scorpio moon hating the fake. IP: Logged |
NickiG Moderator Posts: 3671 From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann Registered: Jul 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 05:18 PM
oh hey, i have venus, saturn, uranus, and neptune all in saturn tooand i totally feel the same as you....my grandfather and his wife are both cap suns, and i cant even stand to talk on the phone with them ------------------ What happens on Venus stays on Venus -Nasa IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 886 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 06:58 PM
I doubt it's your Moon.. because I have a Cap Moon and love Scorpio Moon.. Neither are "false". Also My Mars is conj Nept in Cap.. and my favourite Mars is Scorpio. Capricorn and Scorpio are one of the easiest sextiles.When you don't get along with someone... it's probably not the sextiles and conjunctions that are causing problems.. Although conjunctions can go either way.. But -- Have a look at the squares you have with these people.. and if they are of the same gender.. oppositions can also grate on your nerves. Also - something you probably will not be able to deal with is a person who has little or NO water in their chart. Because you have a water Moon - the element of water is important to you.. If someone lacked water.. you could see them as cold, false etc... the way you described these people. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 886 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 07:00 PM
CrazyAqua -- So are the people you don't get along with in a different generation? They don't have Neptune/Uranus conjunctions to their Capricorn planets? IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 886 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 07:03 PM
lol Nicki -- but you do like Randall.... It's funny because he has BOTH Sun and Moon in Capricorn. IP: Logged |
NickiG Moderator Posts: 3671 From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann Registered: Jul 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 07:10 PM
yea, that is funny...and i'm not extremely fond of aqua and he also has some significant aqua placements------------------ What happens on Venus stays on Venus -Nasa IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 783 From: US Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 07:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: I doubt it's your Moon.. because I have a Cap Moon and love Scorpio Moon.. Neither are "false". Also My Mars is conj Nept in Cap.. and my favourite Mars is Scorpio. Capricorn and Scorpio are one of the easiest sextiles.When you don't get along with someone... it's probably not the sextiles and conjunctions that are causing problems.. Although conjunctions can go either way.. But -- Have a look at the squares you have with these people.. and if they are of the same gender.. oppositions can also grate on your nerves. Also - something you probably will not be able to deal with is a person who has little or NO water in their chart. Because you have a water Moon - the element of water is important to you.. If someone lacked water.. you could see them as cold, false etc... the way you described these people.
No, Scorpio hates fake and what they are doing is fake. They care so much how they are seen so they do things that aren't them to look good. Two signs can get along but doesn't mean they like everything about the other. Hmm do they all lack water?? Nope. But they aren't coming off as cold. Just too image obsessed. IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 783 From: US Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 07:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: CrazyAqua -- So are the people you don't get along with in a different generation? They don't have Neptune/Uranus conjunctions to their Capricorn planets?
Nope it varies, one is my age another is a few years older and one is alot older. One has that.IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 886 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 07:45 PM
I don't like this kind of image obsession either. It reminds me of something that happened ages ago - years ago.. but I never forget it because it upset me so much. I was going to have a coffee with a friend of mine. Call her "M".. She was generally a nice person and someone I liked although she could be moody at times. On this day I saw a very different side of her though. We bumped into another friend of mine, call her "C"... C is very arty and she had been working on some paintings so she had her painting apron still on and had paint all over her. She had taken a break to go and buy some extra materials and she was going straight back to painting. Well I asked her to join us for a coffee... I didn't even THINK about the paint.. I mean I imagined - like any other normal person, that she would wash up a little in the bathroom (wherever we go). It was not an issue to me. WELL -- Miss "M" decided to make it into an issue... She kept telling me that she was extremely embarrassed to walk around the city with "C" (because C had paint on her)... and she was trying to walk away from us... and look as though she was not with us. It was the weirdest most annoying thing!!!!! I've never seen someone behave so childishly and I was not expecting it from her. It made my other friend feel bad because she didn't know why she was being avoided.. and I was stuck in the middle trying to make peace and have a normal coffee with them and have a normal conversation (which was next to impossible). M - Pisces Sun/Gemini Moon/Sag AC C - Gemini Sun/Gemini Moon/Aries AC I don't even know if it's even a chart thing . Because really - would you imagine a Pisces girl behaving this way? IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 2117 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted May 21, 2011 08:10 PM
I know a girl with the same generational Capricorn stellium as you, only add her sun and venus too. She's exactly as you described: we weren't close but we were chill, but then one day she decided I was beneath her. It wasn't a great time for me to begin with so I didn't take that very lightly. Recently, she's suddenly decided I'm "cool enough" to talk to again but I'm not interested so I just ignore her. I *strongly* dislike people like that. I'm also 4X a Cancer so it could be the polar opposite thing...AND we both have Mars in Aries. Yikes. I do know other Capricorn women, but they're nothing like her. They are image conscious, but more in the sense that they want to be seen as good people rather than *important*. Then again, none of them have Cap stelliums as crazy as the girl above, they usually have strong air/water/fire/mutable energy mellowing out the status-quo tendencies I guess. Capricorn men are a different story. I don't care for them, not going there. IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 783 From: US Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 08:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop:
M - Pisces Sun/Gemini Moon/Sag AC C - Gemini Sun/Gemini Moon/Aries AC I don't even know if it's even a chart thing . Because really - would you imagine a Pisces girl behaving this way?
M sounds like the Sun Caps I know. Wow both Gemini Moons.... Yeah I think Gem adds to it. A Gem Sun I know would change her opinions of things depending on what others said. Also, one of the Cap moons I know is a Gem Sun. Probably doesn't help. OH! And Gem ASC for a Cap sun. Maybe its the combo.IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 783 From: US Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 21, 2011 08:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
I do know other Capricorn women, but they're nothing like her. They are image conscious, but more in the sense that they want to be seen as good people rather than *important*. Then again, none of them have Cap stelliums as crazy as the girl above, they usually have strong air/water/fire/mutable energy mellowing out the status-quo tendencies I guess. Capricorn men are a different story. I don't care for them, not going there.
I have a stellium...but I swear I'm not like that! My Sun and Moon must take over most of those icky I think I'm more important than you qualities of Cap. Ugh. I see that more in Cap Suns. I know what you mean by good. I see that. My mother is a cap moon and if we were to get in an argument in public she would do anything to make me look like the bad one. UGH! So childish! Putting on this different persona. I think Caps like to have their relationships looks good. Or if bad they didn't do it.Hm Can't think of any Cap men :O
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L0veLess Knowflake Posts: 84 From: Saturn Registered: Feb 2011
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posted May 22, 2011 12:54 AM
Im not fake at all D: I don't think im better than people. But i would say that i care a little too much about what people think about me. But i keep that inside, I don't try to be fake because of my insecurities. Im not really anything like this stuff lol oh and i have a stellium there too. ------------------ I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity.-Poe IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 783 From: US Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 22, 2011 01:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by L0veLess: Im not fake at all D: I don't think im better than people. But i would say that i care a little too much about what people think about me. But i keep that inside, I don't try to be fake because of my insecurities. Im not really anything like this stuff lol oh and i have a stellium there too.
I'm thinking its really depends on what planets they are in and if there are any counter energies.IP: Logged |
L0veLess Knowflake Posts: 84 From: Saturn Registered: Feb 2011
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posted May 22, 2011 01:26 AM
oooh well i mean i have that cap stellium yu do. plus cap sun. so ya. lol and all the other caps i meet are very nice! (i could just be biased tho, liking my own kind! :0)(but then again there is this one cap girl that i don't like much...) i meet lots of fake people and I don't think they are caps? I wouldn't know because i walk away from them...im allergic to fake. So i guess i should get to know a fake and find out their sign etc... but like yu said its about the placements and the good or bad aspects of them. edit: uuhhhh maybe nvm! maybe caps are fake! hah. although not the kind of fake that im thinking of. like mean girl fake or like hugs when meeting and always saying how ARE yewww. in that ugly fake way ya know? its a dif fake.------------------ I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity.-Poe IP: Logged |
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 314 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted May 22, 2011 01:50 AM
I have that Cap stellium too.I find male caps to be horrible and manipulative. When they say jump they want you to say "how high". Male caps also have absolutely no feelings whatsoever and are soooo selfish and full of themselves. But then I'm a Pisces so that's part of my dislike of them too. Female caps, well I have a few acquaintances but I'm not close. ------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 783 From: US Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 22, 2011 02:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by L0veLess: oooh well i mean i have that cap stellium yu do. plus cap sun. so ya. lol and all the other caps i meet are very nice! (i could just be biased tho, liking my own kind! :0)(but then again there is this one cap girl that i don't like much...) i meet lots of fake people and I don't think they are caps? I wouldn't know because i walk away from them...im allergic to fake. So i guess i should get to know a fake and find out their sign etc... but like yu said its about the placements and the good or bad aspects of them. edit: uuhhhh maybe nvm! maybe caps are fake! hah. although not the kind of fake that im thinking of. like mean girl fake or like hugs when meeting and always saying how ARE yewww. in that ugly fake way ya know? its a dif fake.
But of course since we have figured out that they want to keep "face" you could just be saying this because of the whole reason! lol And same for those others you know. Maybe you can't see through them. IP: Logged |
L0veLess Knowflake Posts: 84 From: Saturn Registered: Feb 2011
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posted May 22, 2011 02:12 AM
lolol noo i can see through most people! Im good at body language. I can take certain degrees of fake. Like the nice kinda fake. I think the caps ive seen aren't really being fake fake just they arne't going to be rude if yu talk to them so they just respond in a false happpiness or caring way so that the people dont feel bad...But im not trying to save face!!! im just really like indecisive! Because i try to see things from every angle. And the truth is relative. What I think is true won't be true for others. So im just trying to see things yur way a little so that I can discover all truths but wait! I am saving face essentially!!! cos i hate being wrong! and in classes I don't ever like answering question unless im completely SURE of my being correct. *sigh* theres so many buts and contradictions. Im very contradicting btw. I like things BUT thers some condition. So maybe im conditional? ^_^------------------ I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity.-Poe IP: Logged |
ecomat Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Budapest, Hungary Registered: Feb 2011
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posted May 22, 2011 05:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by CrazyAquarian: I may have 5 planets in Cap, but people with strong Cap in them like sun or moon drive me crazy! I am NOT like them. They care way to F-ing much about their image! Has anyone else noticed this? I have my Venus in Cap, Idk maybe its my Neptune and Uranus conjunction that changes things. I understand somewhat, yeah, I'd like to be portrayed in a certain way and I can be conscious of what I do or say so I won't be takin the wrong way at times. But when your image comes before your friends and family and you say and do fake things I cannot stand it! I recently noitced that 90 percent of the people I'm close to have a cap sun or moon, no wonder I never want to see them! UGH!!
yes, i have noticed that. (i was like that too, but gave up when i realised that no matter what i do, people have an altogether different idea about me... ) it might be that they are like that because of a strong need to meet expectations. which are either there or not. i find it more interesting than annoying though. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 2117 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted May 22, 2011 07:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by CrazyAquarian: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Benedict Moon*: [b]I do know other Capricorn women, but they're nothing like her. They are image conscious, but more in the sense that they want to be seen as good people rather than *important*. Then again, none of them have Cap stelliums as crazy as the girl above, they usually have strong air/water/fire/mutable energy mellowing out the status-quo tendencies I guess. Capricorn men are a different story. I don't care for them, not going there.
I have a stellium...but I swear I'm not like that! My Sun and Moon must take over most of those icky I think I'm more important than you qualities of Cap. Ugh. I see that more in Cap Suns. I know what you mean by good. I see that. My mother is a cap moon and if we were to get in an argument in public she would do anything to make me look like the bad one. UGH! So childish! Putting on this different persona. I think Caps like to have their relationships looks good. Or if bad they didn't do it.Hm Can't think of any Cap men :O[/B][/QUOTE] Well by "good" I meant that they like to feel like they make a difference. That's why its kind of endearing when they take charge. Then again, these Cap women I know have strong influences in other elements and modes so you don't get the strong obsession with status quo from them.
But otherwise, if I come across a Cap Sun with almost everything else in Capricorn...I'm walking the other way. They're so wound up like that that I feel constipated just by interacting with them. Ugh. I also agree that the difference between you and the mega-capricorns (those who have Sun as a part of that stellium) is your Sun and Moon. Aqua and Capricorn are almost like oil and water, and Scorpio can't stand the fakeness that comes with keeping up appearances. Funny though, I haven't had many bad experiences with Capricorn Moons. Not that they don't have their agenda, but I've never sensed any cold status-wh0ring behavior in them.
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