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MertSerimer
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posted May 25, 2011 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thx a lot. It seems you have quiet knowledge about it. If it does not bother you, can you inform me about their placements in my natal chart?

Nessus in 7th house in libra
Conjuncts Ceres!!(getting nurtured by abusing?)
Sextiles Jupiter
Squares Neptune
Trines Dejanira

Dejanira is in 12th house in aquarias
İt trines Nessus
İt squares Pluto in 8 in scorpio
İt opposes Jupiter

Lilith in sagittarus in 9th house (about to conjunct 10th cusp 2.5 degree)
Trines Jupiter
Sextiles Ceres
Conjuncts Juno
Conjuncts Venus (2,6 degree)
Squares Moon

My Kaali in 8th house scorpio
Conjuncts Pluto 1.8 degree
Squares Jupiter 2.1 degree
Trines Moon 1.9 degree
Squares Dejanira

Many of allowed orb is less than 2 =))

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posted May 25, 2011 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you call me Lady ,I am all yours
I will be back later with a fresh eye to look.

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posted May 25, 2011 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Nessus in the 7th could make it that you would seek Nessus in a partner.
In simple terms, you could find abusive relationships.
I have this placement ,too.
Whatever you have in the 7th ,you tend to meet on the outside until you accept it in yourself.
You and I need to find our own bad boy

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posted May 25, 2011 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Deja in the 12th could make you deny your victim self.
This could get you in situations where you could be too tough cuz you don't have an understanding of where YOU could be vulnerable.

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posted May 25, 2011 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tell me which aspects are less than one degree so we can put them in order of importance.

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posted May 25, 2011 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 25, 2011 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 26, 2011 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Tell me which aspects are less than one degree so we can put them in order of importance.



thx a lot!!!!!!
All Nessus aspect except conjunct ceres is less than 1 degree.

Deja aspects except pluto is less than 1 degree.
And also i have Deja semisextile moon

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posted May 26, 2011 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Mert
I will think about them and come back later Sweetie

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posted May 26, 2011 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a thought before I come back Mert.
In synastry, Nessus and Deja REALLY play out.
If someone's Nessus and Deja hit your planets in exact conjunctions you will relive past abuse as if you are in a time warp.
It is almost as if God gave you a second chance at healing any abuse.
It is very strange but very predictable to me when someone tells me of a super obsessive relationship.
I KNOW it is Nessus/Deja lol

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posted May 26, 2011 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Just a thought before I come back Mert.
In synastry, Nessus and Deja REALLY play out.
If someone's Nessus and Deja hit your planets in exact conjunctions you will relive past abuse as if you are in a time warp.
It is almost as if God gave you a second chance at healing any abuse.
It is very strange but very predictable to me when someone tells me of a super obsessive relationship.
I KNOW it is Nessus/Deja lol


Hmmm nice intuition.. I am just flirting with someone whose venus conjuncts my dejanira with 3.2 orb...

Also her moon conjuncts exactly with my ascendant... Past life abusement?

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posted May 26, 2011 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have Venus conjunct either Nessus or Deja,you are a goner ,Boyfriend
I don't believe in past lives so I have to leave you on that one lol


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posted May 26, 2011 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have Venus conjunct either Nessus or Deja,you are a goner ,Boyfriend
I don't believe in past lives so I have to leave you on that one lol


It is okay , i just started to bore with her since my sun/venus sagittarus nature. She is capricorn which makes me bore quickly and whose saturn and sun is my on north node and sun/moon midpoint.

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posted May 26, 2011 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes,I can see how the other factors would dim the flame

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If Nessus trines Deja, I would say you are fine.Your abuser side(Nessus) and your victim side(Deja) can re reconciled easily.
They are in union in an easy energy so you will not likely need to foist them on others.
That is my opinion, anyway.

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posted May 27, 2011 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Lilith is interesting,Mert. I will think on that and come back .

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posted May 27, 2011 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If Nessus trines Deja, I would say you are fine.Your abuser side(Nessus) and your victim side(Deja) can re reconciled easily.
They are in union in an easy energy so you will not likely need to foist them on others.
That is my opinion, anyway.


thx a lot!!!! Look forward to see Deja and Lilith explanations =))

if you are interested, i added Kaali also

My Kaali in 8th house scorpio
Conjuncts Pluto 1.8 degree
Squares Jupiter 2.1 degree
Trines Moon 1.9 degree
Squares Dejanira

Ty so much for your time and labour.

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posted May 27, 2011 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your kind words Mert.They mean a lot
I have not studied Kaali yet.I want to do it next.
I may look up some things and put it on this thread.
I do know some about Lilith though which I will share with you.

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posted May 28, 2011 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lilith in sagittarus in 9th house (about to conjunct 10th cusp 2.5 degree)
Trines Jupiter
Sextiles Ceres
Conjuncts Juno
Conjuncts Venus (2,6 degree)
Squares Moon

Lilith is raw sexuality. I think it's conjunction with Juno could be your desire to merge sexuality with true ,committed love.
Is this true Mert?

It conjuncts Venus too which represents what you find to be beautiful.
It squares the moon.


I would say that you really want your love to be your committed and faithful partner.
Down deep,you are not a "run around" kind of guy .

The moon square may make you afraid of the committed partner though. Your emotions may be afraid of the intimacy that this level of partnership would bring.
You may struggle with your deepest heart(moon) and your desire for raw passion to be INSIDE a committed partnership not with many partners in a fling type of setting(s)
Does this ring true? How/how not?

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posted May 28, 2011 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


quote:

Lilith is raw sexuality. I think it's conjunction with Juno could be your desire to merge sexuality with true ,committed love.
Is this true Mert?


Definitely.

quote:

I would say that you really want your love to be your committed and faithful partner.
Down deep,you are not a "run around" kind of guy .


true
REALLY deep deep deep down i am not a "run around" kind of guy. "Intimacy problems" made me a "one night stander"...

quote:

The moon square may make you afraid of the committed partner though. Your emotions may be afraid of the intimacy that this level of partnership would bring.
You may struggle with your deepest heart(moon) and your desire for raw passion to be INSIDE a committed partnership not with many partners in a fling type of setting(s)


First sentence is true...
I like being generous, helpful and sympathetic but "intimacy" is always issue for me...It is like i am in a paradox.
but i couldn't understand the second sentence clearly :S

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posted May 28, 2011 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Darling
We have a language barrier lol
A fling is a fast and highly charged relationship that is not built on anything but attraction so ends shortly thereafter.
It is a fast affair you could say.

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posted May 28, 2011 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ok Darling
We have a language barrier lol
A fling is a fast and highly charged relationship that is not built on anything but attraction so ends shortly thereafter.
It is a fast affair you could say.


Definitely.. in fact even in fling rel. i am struggling about that as if rel. is going somewhere...

When you have time, can you interprete aspects of nessus and deja? :S. I know i demand a lot. It is okay if you don't answer =))).

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