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vertiver
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posted May 29, 2011 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm finally starting to notice how my 7th House Venus functions with it being opposed by both Saturn and Uranus.

I have a tendancy to try to avoid conflict with my significant other to the point, that I don't speak my mind, which doesn't make sense considering I have Venus in Gemini. But it does make sense when you take harsh aspects to Venus into the mix.

You see, Saturn and Uranus are both opposite natal Venus in the 7th, so I'm stunted with communicating with my partner because Saturn restricts the communicating tendancies of my Gemini Venus, which inevitably just causes me more conflict because I'm not using Gemini Venus to my full advantage, and the oppositions are very push-pull, to the point that I become very frustrated with the other person, when in fact I created the frustration in the first place, by not communicating how I feel.

But it is so hard to not be agreeable, ahhh!

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posted May 29, 2011 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini is not a conflict seeking sign in and of itself either. What's your Mars?

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Ami Anne
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posted May 29, 2011 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the problem is the Saturn cooling the Venus and the Uranus electrifying it.
I don't think the sign of the Venus is as important as the aspects.

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Ami Anne
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posted May 29, 2011 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a 7th house Gem Venus too. A 7th house Venus makes you look for beauty(Venus) in others.
This is my dilemma now. I need to find my own beauty

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posted May 29, 2011 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have a 7th house Gem Venus too. A 7th house Venus makes you look for beauty(Venus) in others.
This is my dilemma now. I need to find my own beauty


Yeah no kidding, I feel the same... Like always aperciating others, and not yourself.

Blugrey, my Mars is in Aries, but its on the IC, the most private part of the chart.

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posted May 29, 2011 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been told too many times that I don't give myself enough credit and that I need to love myself more and stop giving so much?

I have venus in 7th house (libra) conjunct moon

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Ami Anne
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posted May 29, 2011 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm
I wonder if all 7th house Venus's lack an appreciation of their own beauty.
I would like to do a thread on this.It is very interesting.
Do all planets and asteroids in the 7th house---not appreciate themselves??
Does everything in the 7th house tend to meet itself from the outside?

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posted May 30, 2011 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a 7th house venus scorpio conjunct pluto, theyr both really close to the descendent.
im also a libra with a taurus rising

i think i can appreciate myself, but i do give a lot to other people. whatever the other person wants to do im perfectly ok with it. but compromising with everyone else gets tiring at times. i usually try to avoid confrontation VERY MUCH SO but if i must face it then i will... it just really make me upset. i dunno if i find beauty in others, but considering im artistically inclined i would think i attract similar peoples to what im interested in, so im usually attracted to guys who are musically inclined or artistically inclined in some way.. i guess the beauty side too cause you gotta be attracted.

ive also read that venus in the 7th house is diplomatic and could be good at counseling which is feel is very true probably more so with pluto there. also i heard good with law

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posted May 30, 2011 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2011 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
i do compromise but really only if i'm fine with it. good luck with trying to get me to do anything i do not want. though i see this as a weakness in myself and try not to be domineering of other people as i've grown older. but hey i'm still young-ish.. i think.

Where is your moon Sand?

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posted May 30, 2011 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is so weird Sand cuz I felt Leo .Leo moon is a strong moon placement in giving one a sense of self.
The person is strong about who he is without being arrogant or intrusive on other people.

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posted May 30, 2011 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 30, 2011 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
what i said must have sounded so leo hehe! i'm not super familiar with the sign unlike taurus-scorpio, which i have a lot of in my chart.

I do not feel a lack of appreciation of my own beauty err handsomeness though. =)the saturn opposition can make us hard on ourselves and i do not compare myself to others. if i did though i think i'd feel pretty good hehe but that's not really a way to grow as a person. gotta come from within IMO.


You are so cute I could eat you up

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posted May 30, 2011 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm really frustrated at the moment... My boyfriend broke up with me because I was too sexual, and he believed that our relationship would never evolve beyond a purely physical one.

Yet he never said anything to me about this, until he broke up with me through a text no less.

I always compromise for other people and I'm tired of it!

I really envy those with a strong Moon, I'm just a sensitive Pisces Moon...

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posted May 30, 2011 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vertiver:
I'm really frustrated at the moment... My boyfriend broke up with me because I was too sexual, and he believed that our relationship would never evolve beyond a purely physical one.

Yet he never said anything to me about this, until he broke up with me through a text no less.

I always compromise for other people and I'm tired of it!

I really envy those with a strong Moon, I'm just a sensitive Pisces Moon...


Where are your Nessus and Deja Vertiver?
Do you have Deja conjunct any personal planet or Angle?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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posted May 30, 2011 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, do you mean "Deja" as in "Dejanira?" If so, Dejanira is in the 9th house and exactly opposite natal Moon in Pisces in the 3rd. Also Dejanira is widely conjunct Nessus in the 9th H in Virgo.

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posted May 30, 2011 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW Vertiver
Yes I meant that!! That is big!

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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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posted May 30, 2011 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Deja oppose Pisces moon in the 3rd.
Ok Deja is the victim energy. It lies down when it is violated.It does not fight back.
You have your deepest nature (the moon) warring against the part of you which will ALLOW yourself to be violated.
We all have a Deja and Nessus of course.We all have all of the energies so don't despair.
IQ talks about the Pisces moon as being the one most susceptible to being walked all over,I think.
So, there may be your culprits Darling
I wish I could wave a magic wand over you and me and make these things go away.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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posted May 30, 2011 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 30, 2011 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I wish I could wave a magic wand over you and me and make these things go away.


Thanks for thinking of me Ami and Sand (look up Dejanira on astro.com)!

And yes its true, I tend to be a welcome mat for others to step on, but I think the best thing for me, is to not date for awhile and maybe reclaim some of the self-esteem I once had...

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posted May 30, 2011 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vertiver:
Thanks for thinking of me Ami and Sand (look up Dejanira on astro.com)!

And yes its true, I tend to be a welcome mat for others to step on, but I think the best thing for me, is to not date for awhile and maybe reclaim some of the self-esteem I once had...


You are not alone (((Girlfriend)))
Some aspects are just so very ,very hard especially when it impacts your self esteem
What is happening with your Venus Vertiver.
Which houses have Libra and Taurus on the cusp and in which house is your Venus.
Tell me the same thing for Saturn if you would too .

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posted May 30, 2011 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You are not alone (((Girlfriend)))
Some aspects are just so very ,very hard especially when it impacts your self esteem
What is happening with your Venus Vertiver.
Which houses have Libra and Taurus on the cusp and in which house is your Venus.
Tell me the same thing for Saturn if you would too .

Libra is in the 10th house (I have a Libra MC), Taurus is on the 5th house and Venus is in the 7th (and is only aspected by Saturn and Uranus). Oh and I have Saturn in the 1st.


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