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Doux Rêve
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posted June 01, 2011 02:53 PM
  
What elements in a chart would suggest morbid jealousy? When someone is literally eaten up by it.
Some signs/houses/aspects in particular?
(My guess: afflicted Scorpio/Pluto.)
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MertSerimer
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posted June 01, 2011 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
What elements in a chart would suggest morbid jealousy? When someone is literally eaten up by it.
Some signs/houses/aspects in particular?
(My guess: afflicted Scorpio/Pluto.)
Admit it or not, we all have some Jealousy in us even if it is a little.-Many leo traits without success definitely!!! -First of all Pluto in scorpio generation are all prone to jealousy. -PLuto in 8th house. -Moon in scorpio
-Sun in scorpio,
-Any house cusp on scorpio is where you will be jealous about. For example ninth house scorpio then you be jea. about other's cultures dynamics, religions etc... -Venus in scorpio, IP: Logged |
Anemone
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posted June 01, 2011 03:03 PM
Hahaha I know a Scorpio sun/merc/venus all conjunct tightly with Pluto in Scorpio...and I reckon its in the 5th house of romance!
I guess this must suck bih time in relationships :PIP: Logged |
MertSerimer
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posted June 01, 2011 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by Anemone:
Hahaha I know a Scorpio sun/merc/venus all conjunct tightly with Pluto in Scorpio...and I reckon its in the 5th house of romance!
I guess this must suck bih time in relationships :P
Lol i know someone exactly having same placements/aspects. But he is only jealous about his girlfried's boyfriends. He is never jealous about other's success or fame. IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby
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posted June 01, 2011 03:07 PM
Hmmm...Again with a personal example, I've met two people who had the ability to become morbidly jealous. Both had my Pluto conjunct/opposite their AC/DC axis. The first one had Taurus rising at 2°, my Pluto bang on his DC of course. He was morbidly jealous to the point that he would tell me he would kill my exes and make sure that I wouldn't fall in love with anyone else again. After all was said and done, he admitted to me that he didn't know why he did and said the things he did/said, and that he never felt that way before. So I suspect that it was purely our synastry. Although it must be said that he has quite a violent nature. He also has a stellium in Sagittarius, which falls into his 8th house. The second one has my Pluto conjunct his rising. In Scorpio, 2°. Contrary to the guy I mentioned first, he verbally abused me and manipulated me over and over. Also he said that he had never done this to anyone before and didn't know why he did it. At that point I was starting to see a strange pattern develop. He also took out his jealousy on me rather than on my ex partners, like the other one did. Nothing quite in his natal chart would suggest such an intrusive nature and such jealousy - apart from the Scorpio rising of course. But not necessarily every Scorpio rising is jealous. He also has mars in the 8th house, perhaps that might have something to do with his morbidly jealous behaviour. All this leads me to conclude that morbid jealousy can probably be activated by synastric aspects...  ------------------
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Doux Rêve
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posted June 01, 2011 03:07 PM
So apparently Scorpio = 1st when it comes to jealousy.Any other ideas? Aries? I've read that Capricorn can be very jealous.
But they'd probably not show it.
Would a heavy 8th house make someone prone to jealousy just as much as Scorpio placements?
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Anemone
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posted June 01, 2011 03:09 PM
Hmm this one has a prett good chart (i am not too sure on birth time so i might be way wrong on houses here haha) but all this plutonian power, apart from the dark/heavy influence, seems to manifest greatly...especially professionally wise (he is always 'tormented'-dramatic on romantic affairs lol). Besides, I think 10th/11th houses are more 'social'and about image and that would indicate jealousy perhaps (i mean a similar patter in those houses)IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 01, 2011 03:10 PM
Oh Aya, thank you again for the great response!Apparently the 8th house does play a part in jealousy.. But I agree, synastry has to be taken into account. IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby
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posted June 01, 2011 03:13 PM
Definitely 8th and Scorpio 
I'm afraid jealousy will always be a Scorpio keyword 
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Doux Rêve
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posted June 01, 2011 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by Aya_and_baby:
Definitely 8th and Scorpio
I'm afraid jealousy will always be a Scorpio keyword
Haha, agreed! 
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Coffee
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posted June 01, 2011 03:35 PM
8th house seems the place as it's all about what the other person has, or even what your shadow (7th) wants (8th) - 8th is 2nd house from the 7th.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 01, 2011 03:40 PM
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8th house seems the place as it's all about what the other person has, or even what your shadow (7th) wants (8th) - 8th is 2nd house from the 7th.
Agreed.
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SmilingHeart
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posted June 01, 2011 03:45 PM
I would think that Scorpios are one of the less jealous signs...I've met some awefully jealous Cancers in my life though.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 01, 2011 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
I would think that Scorpios are one of the less jealous signs...I've met some awefully jealous Cancers in my life though.
Ha! HAHA. You must be kidding. All the Scorpios I've met (me included) are very jealous.
But the thing is that we don't like to show it.
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Ami Anne
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posted June 01, 2011 03:53 PM
You know what I think, Doux.
There are some people who are more jealous than others.
I would think it would be a natal Scorpio placement.
However, I think the BIG thing is the synastry .
I say this cuz I am NOT jealous.However,with the right synastry,I can be horrible  ------------------
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SmilingHeart
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posted June 01, 2011 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Ha! HAHA. You must be kidding. All the Scorpios I've met (me included) are very jealous.
But the thing is that we don't like to show it.
(emotional displays = weakness (shh) )
Really? The Scorpios I've met did not seem to be the jealous types at all. But maybe my love for Scorpios is clouding my judgement? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 01, 2011 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You know what I think, Doux.
There are some people who are more jealous than others.
I would think it would be a natal Scorpio placement.
However, I think the BIG thing is the synastry .
I say this cuz I am NOT jealous.However,with the right synastry,I can be horrible
Very true Ami !
I agree. But you do have Sun, Mercury & Moon in the 8th, right? Say, if you are in love, won't you be jealous? Or does the Gemini energy cancel that out? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 01, 2011 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
Really? The Scorpios I've met did not seem to be the jealous types at all. But maybe my love for Scorpios is clouding my judgement?
Well, maybe they had Air Moons, or other Air placements. Or even Sagittarius. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 01, 2011 04:02 PM
Doux
If I were in love and TRUSTED the guy ,I would not be jealous  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Doux Rêve
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posted June 01, 2011 04:06 PM
Right.
Trust.Scorpio/Pluto (afflicted) can have a hard time with trust. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 01, 2011 04:08 PM
Well,since we are on the subject Doux I should not be with him if I would be jealous  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Doux Rêve
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posted June 01, 2011 04:14 PM
Mh, trust is essential, for sure.
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SmilingHeart
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posted June 01, 2011 04:15 PM
Doux, yes alot of them have Sagittarius in their charts. No Air though...I don't know that many people with Air Moons. Some have earth moons others fire.
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SmilingHeart
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posted June 01, 2011 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Doux
If I were in love and TRUSTED the guy ,I would not be jealous
You seem to be very spiritual and wise, Ami.
I admire you...I have to admit that I am a little jealous when it comes to realtionships...even friendships sometimes. I strive to be free from any jealousy at some point. IP: Logged |
TrueTaurus
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posted June 01, 2011 04:37 PM
I want to learn from Aquarians, and or other air signs how to be detached in a relationship and let the other just BE. I absolutely hate the feeling of jealousy, but I am so prone to it. It's an irrational surge of emotion that's embarrassing, and also it makes me worrisome about starting a relationship.Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer IP: Logged |
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