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Doux Rêve
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posted June 02, 2011 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the square.
http://caitastro.blogspot.com/2009/05/moon-square-pluto-reliance-vs.html

^I find this article very accurate.

Here's the intro:

" Moon Square Pluto; Reliance Vs. Destruction
When the moon (emotional nature) is in tension aspect to Pluto (control, transformation) in a natal chart, natives will feel they are constantly at the mercy of their overwhelming emotions. Even when there are strong indicators elsewhere in the chart of calm, capable self control, these folks' emotions will still seem to get the best of them every time. As a result, they will often resort to cruel tactics in order to control their emotional nature; namely by destroying every relationship in their lives which they feel an emotional reliance on. "


Can anyone else relate?
How do you deal with the hard aspects between Moon and Pluto?

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MertSerimer
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posted June 02, 2011 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I have the square.
http://caitastro.blogspot.com/2009/05/moon-square-pluto-reliance-vs.html

^I find this article very accurate.

Here's the intro:

" Moon Square Pluto; Reliance Vs. Destruction
When the moon (emotional nature) is in tension aspect to Pluto (control, transformation) in a natal chart, natives will feel they are constantly at the mercy of their overwhelming emotions. Even when there are strong indicators elsewhere in the chart of calm, capable self control, these folks' emotions will still seem to get the best of them every time. As a result, they will often resort to cruel tactics in order to control their emotional nature; namely by destroying every relationship in their lives which they feel an emotional reliance on. "


Can anyone else relate?
How do you deal with the hard aspects between Moon and Pluto?


I read that once pluto touches moon, hard or easy aspects do not seem to differ a lot. The people with easy aspects can also suffer like hard aspect people but resistance will be less for easy aspects. Also with less resistance, transformation will be easier. the remaining explanations are valid for all type of aspects.

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Doux Rêve
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posted June 02, 2011 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm interesting Mert.
Thank you for taking the time to reply.

I guess you are right, but hard aspects are definitely more difficult to deal with.

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Ami Anne
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posted June 02, 2011 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forgot you had it Doux.
I think of you in terms of Jupiter conjunct Venus and forget about the other placements

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Doux Rêve
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posted June 02, 2011 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(((Ami)))

I wish it was that easy!

But my Moon is super afflicted.

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Frozen Queen
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posted June 02, 2011 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Emotional undertow. Buried feelings. Burying feelings. Feeling nourished by intense experiences. Needing to hit rock bottom from time to time in order to have an emotional overhaul. Emotional obsession. Feeling reborn. Survival instincts. Emotionally nourished by the taboo. Taboo feelings. Having feelings that you “shouldn’t” have. Strong feelings about women. A powerfully emotional woman in your life. Powerful emotions. Oppressive emotional life. Brooding. Feelings of jealousy. Compulsive eating habits. Obsessive habits. Emotionally compulsive. Emotional intensity. Mood swings. Emotionally overwhelming. Needing to have power. Plummeting to the depths of emotion. Emotional healing. Emotional depth. Intense women. Powerful women. Healers.
The urge for power. Unaware of controlling behaviors. Needing to be in control. Controlling food intake. Controlled responses. Controlled feelings. Passionate feelings. Powerful subconscious drives and longings. Emotional death. Killing off bad habits. An emotionally overwhelming mother. Insidious feelings. Insidious habits. The emotional shadow. The female shadow. Enigmatic women. Sorceresses. Intense reactions. Psychological insight. Emotional pressure. Power struggles with women. Power struggles with your mother. A smothering mother. Sexual instincts. Sexual feelings. Hiding feelings. Hiding habits. Hiding personal needs. A wealth of emotion. Instinct for wealth. Wanting to find buried treasure. Feeding the shadow. Feeding the dark side. Finding comfort in transformation. Finding comfort in intense experience. Finding comfort through sex. Powerful support.
Emotional resources. Food resources. Agonizing emotions. Consuming habits. Needing revenge. Being vindictive. Unrelenting feelings. Holding a grudge. Unrelenting support. Unrelenting passion and intensity- for better or worse. Intense feelings about family. Comfortable with overwhelming emotions. Strong likes and dislikes. No emotional middle ground. Extreme feelings of love or hate. Emotionally suffocating. Taking things personally. Never forgetting a transgression. Emotional cruelty- to yourself or others. Getting enjoyment from destruction. Getting enjoyment from cruelty. Emotional abuse- given or received. Tenacity. The ability to make a comeback. Taking pleasure in the taboo. Taking pleasure in healing experiences. Taking pleasure in psychology. Taking pleasure in deep feelings. Taking pleasure in heavy feelings. Sensing pressure from women. Formidable security needs. Subversive habits. The instinct to transform. Instinctual regeneration.
http://astrofix.net/2010/06/28/moonpluto-aspects-brainstorm/

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Benedict Moon*
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posted June 02, 2011 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a positive moon/pluto aspect...but my moon's already submerged in the 8th so its not really that easy anyways.

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Benedict Moon*
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posted June 02, 2011 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
d/p

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mochai
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posted June 02, 2011 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the opposition which is very similar, and the two women I was close to (we moved constantly so I was never able to have close contacts) had mars sq uranus pretty tight among other things.

The destroying every relationship in which they have emotional reliance on made me snicker. I know sometimes in relationships I get this thing in my head where I'm like.. How dare I be reliant on or vulnerable to you! and I get really angry at them or cold.. It's not as strong as it used to be. I used to be horrible about pushing boyfriend away and then testing them. Every emotionally intimate encounter felt like life or death. I was very caring and super attentive in relationships which I suppose made up for the above.

Reading more of the article.. some of it is pretty extreme emotionally and I don't act like that. Though in one circumstance with some soulmate who had more power over me than I would like it did sort of oscillate into that point on and off, moreso after certain things happened and I couldn't stop loving him. Destroying it was like a desperate attempt at salvation. I tell people I don't want to love like that again and I really don't.

I do like being alone, and if a person tried to change me instead of creating havoc I'd likely have a) tried to change when I was younger, decide it was intolerable and shortly therafter tell him it didn't work b) now that I'm older tell him my views on love and acceptance and where I want to go and be and why and say we don't work for x reason.

I do have major issues with relying on someone and moreso being vulnerable to them.

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Doux Rêve
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posted June 02, 2011 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys.

I really hope Moon-Pluto gets better with age!
I am such a difficult person when people get closer.
I'm almost always emotionally distant, and relying on people is quite hard.. I am learning to be more open about my feelings though (I hope).

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