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Betty Boop
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posted June 03, 2011 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.. about things that will never be.


I'm sure a lot of people know the story here already. If you do, ignore whatever it is you remember and try to answer purely based on the synastry here. Please do not take into account age or other factors.. just the chart/aspects!

My questions are:

1. Would we make a good married couple? Would this work well as a marriage?

2. Is it possible that we will have kids? (whether our own or adopted) Is there anything in a synastry chart that could point to people becoming 'parents' together?

3. If we ever did have kids - would this be a good thing? Would we make good parents together? (should I post the composite for that?)

PS. I know these things will most likely never happen. I am not even sure that I would want them to ever happen.. but I'm having a mushy moment LOL ... so I thought I'd ask anyway


Here is the synastry:


And tables.. (for orbs)

My chart:

His chart:

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Lioness
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posted June 03, 2011 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To many lines honey... Post the Composite... Ive been practicing..

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Betty Boop
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posted June 03, 2011 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!! Thank you so much Lioness


Here is the synastry again - with no added stuff:


Here is the composite:

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Betty Boop
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posted June 03, 2011 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And the first meeting chart!

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Lioness
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posted June 03, 2011 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cant see the composite..

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Betty Boop
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posted June 03, 2011 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for having a look I trust your astrological expertise!

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Lioness
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posted June 03, 2011 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never mind I see it now.. Ok let me look

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posted June 03, 2011 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Keep in mind Im practicing.. So I could be way off.. lol Im trying a different type of approach.. That someone showed me..

First I think he will be deceptive, maybe not in the beginning, but eventually...

I think you will be the obsessed one..

One or both of you guys would nag the other about health, or maybe be worried about health.

You two would go to extremes, over indulge..

I wonder if someones home life would be disrupted or if there is deception about that?

I think over all someone will get hurt in the long run here...

Also IDK about kids... Jupiter rules H5 but its intercepted by Saturn.. Saturn could maybe cause problems... But Im really not sure... Not sure it may delay it or deny it.. Saturn is in H6...

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Betty Boop
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posted June 03, 2011 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks again!! Some of the things you said are true.. others do not apply so much.

I'll go one by one --

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First I think he will be deceptive, maybe not in the beginning, but eventually...

We've known each other for over 3 yrs. I don't think it counts as being at the beginning anymore, since we know each other really in depth. We are very honest with each other, strangely so. I think we both see each other as reasonable people so we don't feel a need to hide things.


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I think you will be the obsessed one..

Neither of us is obsessed, as such. I wouldn't call it that. But we both care, and I know we will always have a friendship. This is not one of those whacky relationships that go on and off.. or love/hate. It feels very grounded.

quote:
One or both of you guys would nag the other about health, or maybe be worried about health.

Well I did have some health problems the year after I met him, but it was not serious. I'm not sure if this counts. He was very positive and I felt like he helped me get better.

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You two would go to extremes, over indulge..

LOL This is so true!!!!! I think it's because we are so similar, that it's easy to just encourage each other to keep going. I think it needs to be toned down sometimes.. I know what you mean. Good call on this!

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I wonder if someones home life would be disrupted or if there is deception about that?

This is spot on!!! How did you work this out?

His family would feel weird about me being younger. He is no longer married so that's not an issue. But we are both deceiving basically everyone about there being an "us".

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I think over all someone will get hurt in the long run here...

We all get hurt at one point or another, but as I said - regardless of anything that happens between us we will always be friends, because we are both mature and reasonable people.
As things are, I think the relationship is both positive - because he is like a best friend to me but also negative - because we can't be anything else - and we're both hurt about that.


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Also IDK about kids... Jupiter rules H5 but its intercepted by Saturn.. Saturn could maybe cause problems... But Im really not sure... Not sure it may delay it or deny it.. Saturn is in H6...

Oh ok… That’s sad. That’s what I thought though ^! I have a strong desire to have kids with him for some reason (which I don’t normally feel with anyone else).

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posted June 03, 2011 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anemone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Betty Boop:
.. about things that will never be.


I'm sure a lot of people know the story here already. If you do, ignore whatever it is you remember and try to answer purely based on the synastry here. Please do not take into account age or other factors.. just the chart/aspects!

My questions are:

1. Would we make a good married couple? Would this work well as a marriage?

2. Is it possible that we will have kids? (whether our own or adopted) Is there anything in a synastry chart that could point to people becoming 'parents' together?

3. If we ever did have kids - would this be a good thing? Would we make good parents together? (should I post the composite for that?)

PS. I know these things will most likely never happen. I am not even sure that I would want them to ever happen.. but I'm having a mushy moment LOL ... so I thought I'd ask anyway


its OK, I dont know the story but no need for disclaimers - besides we can all learn from the relative charts... Are you together/separated?

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Betty Boop
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posted June 03, 2011 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Anemone!! Thanks
We have never been officially together but we are extremely close. We were romantically involved (behind the scenes) for a few months. I stopped it for my own reasons... so now we are "friends".. but we're both in love.

We can't be together because it would completely stuff up his life and his career, unless a miracle happens and everyone becomes miraculously open minded overnight.

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posted June 03, 2011 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anemone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you post Nessus (7066), Dejanira (157), and Juno?? Also a table with the aspects in synastry and composite if you can, the wheel is a bit confusing...Will look at COMPOSITE first!

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Betty Boop
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posted June 03, 2011 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anemone - Can Nessus/Dejanira indicate marriage as well? I thought they were only related to abuse and that sort of thing.

Here is the Composite table (w. Nessus/Deja & Juno)

And the Synastry Table:


And also.. the wheels - if you still want to check this!

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posted June 03, 2011 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your help! Its much appreciated

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posted June 03, 2011 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry its a while getting back at you..

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First I think he will be deceptive, maybe not in the beginning, but eventually...
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We've known each other for over 3 yrs. I don't think it counts as being at the beginning anymore, since we know each other really in depth. We are very honest with each other, strangely so. I think we both see each other as reasonable people so we don't feel a need to hide things.

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I guess the desception I was picking up on is to his family which makes even more sense, Which goes with the home be disrubted. So the need to feel desceptive..

You know I was thinking secret relationship since his moon is in your 12th. But I dismissed it bc composite Sun was in the 12th, but now I notice the sun rules the composite 12th.. Sneaky Composite you have!!
So I think its hidden, but not from everyone.. Just on his side..

As for someone getting hurt..
I was torn if it was you or him.. I couldnt decide..
Maybe the "hurt" is an easy hurt.. I do see the trines/sextiles. Maybe cuz you are being deseptive about the relationship..

BUT NOTE: I dont give a time frame on hurt..
I was married with my husband for 10 years and well he ended up hurt... but I couldnt do it anymore...

As for kids.. I think your thinking about kids bc of the 4th house synastry..

I cant say yes or no either way..
I had Saturn in H5 in our Composite w/ the ex husband. I didnt want anymore kids... I kept saying no.. no.. But then he convienced me..
So then we tried.. I ended up having 3 miscarriages.. But then after that I got pregnant again, and had a boy.. After that I said OOO no.. no more for me.. lol
So saturn can delay or cause problems not necessarliy deny..

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posted June 03, 2011 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lioness:
You know I was thinking secret relationship since his moon is in your 12th. But I dismissed it bc composite Sun was in the 12th, but now I notice the sun rules the composite 12th.. Sneaky Composite you have!!
So I think its hidden, but not from everyone.. Just on his side..

Learn something new every day. I didn't know one moon in the others 12th house in synastry or the sun/moon in composite in 12th means a secret relationship.

Is this always the case?

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posted June 03, 2011 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And what would you say about ruler of 12th in 7th in the composite?

Is that also pointing to sekrit and sneeeeeeaky?

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posted June 03, 2011 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Opp I meant to say I dismissed it because Composite Sun in H10 but rules still rules the 12th...
Which is opposite the Neptune.. I missed it.. I didnt pick up on it..

Ususally planets in H12 means something is hidden.. Sometimes its from one person to another, sometimes its both people hide things from all overs, and just keep it in between them selves.

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posted June 03, 2011 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lioness:
Opp I meant to say I dismissed it because Composite Sun in H10 but rules still rules the 12th...
Which is opposite the Neptune.. I missed it.. I didnt pick up on it..

Ususally planets in H12 means something is hidden.. Sometimes its from one person to another, sometimes its both people hide things from all overs, and just keep it in between them selves.


So, with the Moon in 12th it could also be one is hiding the feelings from the other? That it is so sekrit not even they know it's happening Or ooh maybe an unrequited love?

I actually wondered whether the two are working together, they also have Jupiter conj. MC in 10th so either way something with public is going fortunate?

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posted June 03, 2011 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe.. But I think that would be more venus..
At least about love..

Maybe moon is just hiding emotions from the person..

The Gem I dated his moon was in my 12th.. He was hiding his live in girlfriend from me!
But he did get feelings... That he never expressed.. (that he told me about 12 years later)
But I dont think he loved me as in unrequited love.. But he did care but never showed me nor express it..

Pisces.. His Mars/Sun is in my 12th
He does things behind my back, goes through my desk, and he made up a fake face book acct and sent me a friend request...

No telling what I dont KNow.. lol

Plus he doesnt "really" show me his ego.. I know he has a strong ego, but he keeps it very mellow with me... He doesnt push his ego out on me.. Make sense??

My Venus/Saturn in his 12th..
So i have secret feelings for him.. I will never tell him, or let him know.. He he asks me I will DENY DENY DENY!!
I have a deep fear of rejection with him.. So I will keep my mouth shut..

We work together (maybe saturn) so our relationship is a secret from everyone we work with..

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posted June 03, 2011 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The moon opp uranus is gonna be tricky... Won't be stable at all.

Sun and saturn? Eh...
Also the neptune on your desc. He will be be deceptive to you in some way.

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posted June 04, 2011 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lioness:
Maybe.. But I think that would be more venus..
At least about love..

Maybe moon is just hiding emotions from the person..

The Gem I dated his moon was in my 12th.. He was hiding his live in girlfriend from me!
But he did get feelings... That he never expressed.. (that he told me about 12 years later)
But I dont think he loved me as in unrequited love.. But he did care but never showed me nor express it..

Pisces.. His Mars/Sun is in my 12th
He does things behind my back, goes through my desk, and he made up a fake face book acct and sent me a friend request...

No telling what I dont KNow.. lol

Plus he doesnt "really" show me his ego.. I know he has a strong ego, but he keeps it very mellow with me... He doesnt push his ego out on me.. Make sense??

My Venus/Saturn in his 12th..
So i have secret feelings for him.. I will never tell him, or let him know.. He he asks me I will DENY DENY DENY!!
I have a deep fear of rejection with him.. So I will keep my mouth shut..

We work together (maybe saturn) so our relationship is a secret from everyone we work with..


Yes, I get the idea. I would also say that Venus would be the one for the romantic love department and Moon might be more for general feelings/caring. But as with all, it's just a framework, nothing set in stone.

As far as Saturn goes, I have heavy Saturn contact (urgh down to the parallels of decl.) and I certainly would deny deny deny.

I found this on the Moon in 12th:

Moon in a partner’s twelfth house:

When your Moon is in your romantic partner’s twelfth house, you have an element of secrecy and deep intimacy between partners. Your partner will feel a greater sensitivity to your needs and the needs of others. There may be a desire to find a spiritual path for your relationship, a natural course without controversy or conflict. When your relationship partner’s Moon is in your twelfth house, you can feel a greater need to confide all of your deepest feelings to each other. Both of you have an increased desire for quiet moments used for personal reflection, and meditation. Inner peace becomes very important to you. Your deep feelings for your partner are reflected in your sensitivity to his or her needs.


Some of it could apply, but I have yet to find cookbook for non romantic synastries.

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Back to Betty, what do you think of the Virgo Asc in the composite? I think it does fit in the overall theme.

And how does one interpret the composite Dsc? How they behave internally as couple?

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posted June 04, 2011 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Yrone..

Well this guy was 12years ago, and we were in our mid 20's.

I do know I fell for him very hard.. One of the hardest I ever fell.. We didnt really have a spiritual relationship... I did know he had feelings, I did know he was hiding something.. But I was so head over heals at that time, I choose to ignore it, or dismiss it.. Until I was told about it... Then i didnt yell I just told him, I know and I walked away...

He couldnt tell me he had feelings because of his situation. If he wanted to, he could have said your the one for me... But he didnt.. He let me go... But then came back later and tried to make it right.. But I was to hurt and anger.. I said no..
Mostly because he came to me in a nonchalant way. He didnt come to me with his heart..
I can say I was never the same after him!

And because of this I ran off and got married..

We reconnected after 12years, he told me that he had feelings for me back then,but he was so confused and he was trying so hard to do the right thing, but he just ended up hurting everyone...

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