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Ami Anne
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posted June 03, 2011 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another fun theory.Pardon me from the beginning

I am Neptune mental.I am fogged down with distortions. I am deceived by thoughts which are NOT real.
Most of them are about my own value like I don't have much.

Last night,a layer of them came off. I have not talked to my mother in 3 weeks.
I had so much guilt about ever doing this that it took an Aries g/f to show me I was killing myself by staying close to my mother.
It has taken 3 weeks for me to have an inkling that I really was Ok and she was just whacked.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Ami Anne
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posted June 03, 2011 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My being mental was Neptune, not Uranus. I do not explode.
I am not violent. I do not scream,yell and break things or people.
However,I have a huge wall of distortions and fogginess about myself .
They are deceptions in thought,really.
They are going ,slowly.
I literally feel as IF I am coming out of a fog. It clears like a fog.
Then ,some idea like I was "bad" lessens.
I see the foolishness in it and I am not the same.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 03, 2011 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please describe your Neptune and Uranus aspects. How do they make you feel?
Please be as specific as you can with examples if you care to.

Please talk about any of these aspects in synastry too.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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pixelpixie
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posted June 03, 2011 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an interesting question for me because it depends on the circumstances, as both Uranus and Neptune make big aspects in my chart.

Uranus is conjunct Mars and Sun (In Scorpio) and Venus is conjunct Neptune (Sag).

I have a fourth house sun though, so the energy I express isn't manic or violent, but it is forceful and energetic. I'm a mama cat and if I am protective, I am fiercely so. I am odd, and fun. I come up with interesting theories and accept alternative lifestyles with ease and delight.People don't generally 'mess with me' but why would they? I am benign and loving in general.

Venus and Neptune conjunct gives me a dreamy and love-googly take on a lot of things. It's in my fifth house, and I think that alone imbues everything with a sort of romantic pleasure. They also trine my Ascendant. It is when the reality of the situation ( any situation) awakens that I shake my head and go ....what?
I also have Venus/Neptune conjunction in my marriage synastry. It's very 'beautiful', and we've always had a ton of love for each other. Soulmate feelings from the beginning....of course these feelings of perfect union go away sometimes, as this is real life.... but they do come back if nurtured. We also have Moons Conjunct, which I am sure adds....(and we're both natal fourth house suns.)

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love being Aries
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posted June 03, 2011 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my uranus is conjunct neptune, in capricorn, in 4th house.
both conjunct saturn...

M fiercely protective,
uranus is ruler of my 6th and neptune of 7th. so home is my everything, and may be i do have delusions regarding my home or regarding my innerself, may be i am not like what i think i am.

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Ami Anne
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posted June 03, 2011 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I also have Venus/Neptune conjunction in my marriage synastry. It's very 'beautiful', and we've always had a ton of love for each other. Soulmate feelings from the beginning....of course these feelings of perfect union go away sometimes, as this is real life.... but they do come back if nurtured. We also have Moons Conjunct, which I am sure adds....(and we're both natal fourth house suns.)

This sounds awesome Pixie

You know,I was talking to my best friend(male) about certain men who want a new car every few months.


They want the new car smell and to make sure there is no DENT in it.
Well, after they rode it for 3 months,it is not new anymore.
The man knows it's unique flaws. I mean,he had footprint marks from normal driving wear and tear

Then,when the car loses a small sense of it's shininess, he is jonesing for another model.
One day ,he is driving in the old car and he sees a bright Porsche on the road.
He jumps out of the old car and climbs in the Porsche and drives off.
The End

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 03, 2011 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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northernlad
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posted June 03, 2011 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for northernlad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Uranus and Neptune are fairly prominent. Uranus is conjunct my ASC and Neptune is in the 1st house.

When I drink too much (like, blackout drunk), I can get violent and explode. It's not so cute.

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posted June 03, 2011 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Northernlad"- Tori Amos song

Yeah blackout drunk is never fun. Five glasses of wine over the course of a night is my limit.. if you know your limit, fun is to be had!!!

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posted June 03, 2011 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by northernlad:
I think Uranus and Neptune are fairly prominent. Uranus is conjunct my ASC and Neptune is in the 1st house.

When I drink too much (like, blackout drunk), I can get violent and explode. It's not so cute.


Yes,NL that makes total sense about exploding if your normal defenses go down if you have Uranus conjunct the ASC.
Thanks for sharing that

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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posted June 03, 2011 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bright shiny new things ARE awesome!!!

But there's something to be said about the perfect tilt of soft leather seat worn from your own bum's imprint.

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Ami Anne
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posted June 03, 2011 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pixelpixie:
Bright shiny new things ARE awesome!!!

But there's something to be said about the perfect tilt of soft leather seat worn from your own bum's imprint.


Totally
I would never be safe with a man who was in to going to car dealerships.
My Cancer moon cannot take that and won't

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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posted June 03, 2011 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My being mental was Neptune, not Uranus. I do not explode.
I am not violent. I do not scream,yell and break things or people.

Does Uranus explode violently? Seems more of a Pluto thing.

Anyway, definitely more Uranus than Neptune. I don't have any major Neptune aspects at all.

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posted June 03, 2011 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im mental neptune

i am so up in the clouds and by clouds i mean my imagination. i could loose myself in thoughts for days just thinking about so many different things.

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Ami Anne
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posted June 03, 2011 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am giving new categorization to the psychiatric profession --Uranus mental or Neptune mental

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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posted June 03, 2011 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for northernlad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pixelpixie:
"Northernlad"- Tori Amos song

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posted June 03, 2011 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I may be a Neptune/Uranus person. Even though I lean towards Uranus more. I don't get angry easily.
Sometimes I just cry and leave. Other times I scream and break things...It's not pleasant to look at.


But my mind is full of imagined things...a situation can seem so mnuch better or worse in my head. I don't have the ability to view something objectively. Neptune is in the way clouding everything.

Even though I feel more Uranian my Neptune makes alot more major aspects.

Neptune trine Sun
oppisiton Moon
trine Mercury
trine venus
biquintile Mars
conjunct Saturn
conjunct Uranus
sextile Pluto
trine ASC

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posted June 03, 2011 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Smiling Heart
What aspects does your Uranus make?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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posted June 03, 2011 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think with me it might be a stand-off between the two:

Both my Uranus and Neptune are in my 1st house, they're both in the same sign, and they both conjunct a personal planet - their lower octave, even. Well, from what I've been told anyway, Mercury should be Uranus's lower octave and Venus that of Neptune.

Added to that, my Uranus is also, by transference of light (as Lilly called it, I believe) conjunct to my rising - I personally don't think it would be a wide enough conjunction otherwise, if Mercury wasn't in between them - and it is opposed to my moon. Neptune has no other aspects than conjunct Venus and square my MC.

Seeing as my busiest "intersection" in my chart is the AC-DC axis, I would say I'm probably more Uranus influenced of the two.

I do feel that Neptune lets itself be known in my chart as well, as I do allow myself to dream every now and again and fantasize, but I always make sure I land with my feet on the ground again - probably thanks to that oh so lovely Saturn conjunct Sun reminding me that dreaming is for the weak

My Uranus does have to share its energy with the AC-DC axis, Mercury and the moon, so I always feel like they come as a package. Added to that Uranus is also the ruler of my 3rd house and in effect - a psychologist once described my "train of thought" as "abstract" (isn't that a typically Uranus word?) and that people just couldn't follow me in it from the start. I also often have sudden sparks of inspiration, appear a bit "odd" and hard to describe or pin-point and I change my appearance and/or style often. That is to say: I have no personal style that is typical for me, there are more than one and I love to switch from one to the other over the day.

People also say that I do sometimes appear dreamy and with my head in the clouds, so I'd say that Neptune has quite a big influence on me too.

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posted June 03, 2011 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus

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posted June 03, 2011 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful Mblake

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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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posted June 03, 2011 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune mental for me is a dissipation of my own power.
I saw that last night.
My mother made me feel like a sociopath if I just wanted my OWN power.
I guess she never wanted me to be strong and go away.
However,she always laughed at me for being too dependent

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 03, 2011 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Dear Smiling Heart
What aspects does your Uranus make?


Hey, Ami!
Maybe you can see why it seems so much more influential to me.

Uranus
trine Mercury
trine Venus
quincunx Mars
quincunx Jupiter
conjunct Neptune
(semi-sextile Node and Lilith)
trine ASC

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posted June 03, 2011 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune dissolves


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posted June 03, 2011 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune's great. I think it is a basic for artistic talent.

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