posted June 03, 2011 07:17 PM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
Interesting. I'm imagining this vividly.

Can you describe what sort of effects his animal magnetism had upon you? Was it a matter of instant trust? Or perhaps simply a lapse of memory in which you both forgot your human decency?

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Man Road You are killing me

posted June 03, 2011 07:36 PM            

It bothers me a lot when men (because it is usually men.. whether they are men in the clergy, men in politics, men in other interesting positions... or simply men throughout the history of man-kind) -- have such negative views of sex.

I think there needs to be an appreciation of the human body.. not only your own - but also others..
And an appreciation of women as such (female sexuality included) - so not simply women as "mothers"..

I think sex needs to be respected (Cap Mars.. I have RESPECT!)

I am not sure why you have these feelings of inadequacy.. but I believe it may boil down to a dislike (repulsion would be the stronger word) of your own physicality and that of others.

posted June 03, 2011 08:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I was so stumped by the words "guilt" and "the vile nature of promiscuousness" in your first post... that I decided not to read the rest.

It bothers me a lot when men (because it is usually men.. whether they are men in the clergy, men in politics, men in other interesting positions... or simply men throughout the history of man-kind) -- have such negative views of sex.

I think there needs to be an appreciation of the human body.. not only your own - but also others..
And an appreciation of women as such (female sexuality included) - so not simply women as "mothers"..

I think sex needs to be respected (Cap Mars.. I have RESPECT!)

I am not sure why you have these feelings of inadequacy.. but I believe it may boil down to a dislike (repulsion would be the stronger word) of your own physicality and that of others.

My advice: Love More -- Respect More!
Ignore dogmatic views.. whether religious or otherwise which seek to chastise your sexuality, with invented "sins" that are entirely untrue/irrelevant.
And try to listen to your soul for moral guidance.
I doubt your soul will tell you "having sex with a female homosapien is inherently "bad" or "negative" in some way".... unless of course -- you turn it into something negative!
But that is your call ^

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Very interesting here I feel a strong projection from you. Let me heal you of your qualms.

Permiscuous, speaking from a biological perspective, is vile...because it spreads disease. Fact. Now I hear you screaming or itching to mention the use of condoms...condoms do not 100 percent stop the spread of desease, and now i hear you blaming me for putting the condom on wrong....personal attack, personal attack

Permiscuousness from a spiritual perspective, both Wicca, Buddhist, Christian, is vile because it corrupts the soul and spirit....cultivating animal desire, instead of spiritual unearthly manifestations of our divine nature...

For example, someone who never needs to have sex, is greater spiritual than someone who does need to have it, because while the other person is having sex...the person who doesn't have sex is out being spiritual and transmutating this energy....

so it is not a male perspective for permiscuouity to be vile.....and take it from a male who has had his rump in the rump basket.....it is not guilt that I feel of a sinful nature, but rather a guilt of losing myself as a human who may be sexless, it simply is a fact of life, that when a man ejaculates he loses some of his vital essence....and also a woman who sleeps with a man who is only fleetingly present is not sleeping with him out of love, but rather out of convenience....and if you love the person but want to set them free, then why did you sleep with them in the first place? type scenario? Oh for pleasure...and pleasure is a desire...

Now....we all wish we could eat donuts without getting fat, masterbate without losing vital life force, and fly...but we can't...we could spiritualy, but not in this physical reality.

posted June 03, 2011 08:11 PM            

Dogma that I specificaly allude too...and now you know this....I have to take any more of your accusations as personal attacks

unless of course you believe that I am part of a celebant group of monks that tortures themselves in basements and assassinates at the command of the pope

then i would have to say to you

posted June 03, 2011 08:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
People should have a more basic respect for their rumps.Not running around rumping everything

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posted June 03, 2011 08:13 PM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
This is exactly my point Ami...the original critic above, forgot her name, is assuming that I think 1-10 partners in a decade is alot....but i'm regarding permiscuousness as someone who sleeps with a new person once a month...or once a week...that is vile by the laws of hygene purported by science, not part of a religious dogma..

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posted June 03, 2011 08:15 PM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
This is exactly my point Ami...the original critic above, forgot her name, is assuming that I think 1-10 partners in a decade is alot....but i'm regarding permiscuousness as someone who sleeps with a new person once a month...or once a week...that is vile by the laws of hygene purported by science, not part of a religious dogma..

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Yes Road rumpinating is sacred

posted June 03, 2011 08:16 PM            

Thats the "Naked Man" trick works 9/10 times!

posted June 03, 2011 08:18 PM            

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Permiscuous, speaking from a biological perspective, is vile...because it spreads disease. Fact. Now I hear you screaming or itching to mention the use of condoms...condoms do not 100 percent stop the spread of desease, and now i hear you blaming me for putting the condom on wrong....personal attack, personal attack

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Living with other people in general spreads disease. Does this mean that relationships, love (platonic and romantic), having close contact with other human beings are all vile too?

Having hang ups about sex is often dangerous, socially. It leads to f*cked up views about our bodies, and even leads to misogyny.

posted June 03, 2011 08:22 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Living with other people in general spreads disease. Does this mean that relationships, love (platonic and romantic), having close contact with other human beings are all vile too?

Having hang ups about sex is often dangerous, socially. It leads to f*cked up views about our bodies, and even leads to misogyny.

ANDdddd denying yourself sex to attain spiritual growth is just ONE view. There are many other spiritualities where one seeks their higher self through sex/orgasm.

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Well...let me give you an example

In Chicago this year the 1/3 inner city children between the ages of 13-15 has contracted an std.

posted June 03, 2011 08:24 PM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
Well...let me give you an example

In Chicago this year the 1/3 inner city children between the ages of 13-15 has contracted an std.

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And you don't deny yourself of sex, you transmutate it, and not everyone can do this....

There is a physical biological process which is controlled by concious control of the breath that very few can learn....but anyone can if they put their mind to it...

and in this way the energy is transmutated and the individuals natural talents are mastered over night...

michelangelo did this...

and celebant monks do this all the time

but regardless of that...whichever spiritual tradition one follows

posted June 03, 2011 08:27 PM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
Let me also point out the fact that misogyny is not caused by sacred sex

but rather mysogyny is caused by a hatred of men, according to the divine laws of the universe, and science.

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For example right away, when I mentioned that there was guilt felt for permiscuous sex, not regular sex mind you....not sex in general...I was told that this was a male trait...however there are women who also feel guilty for permiscous sex

do you see how you both are projecting now hatred received by you from other men on to me? and in turn sending out hate vibes out of hatred for me in general, which you've generalized like a racist or a sexist?...

Do you see how you both violated my privlige to speak freely of my emotional nature without being psychoanalyzed and told that my beliefs are those of hate mongers, and misoginists? LOL if not you must be deaf dumb and blind...no offense.

posted June 03, 2011 08:31 PM            

do you see the error of your logic?

posted June 03, 2011 08:32 PM            

What did the doctoress say to the 14 year old wicca prostitute?

posted June 03, 2011 08:57 PM            

There is cohesion imo..
Everyone's plight is everyone else's plight.

I'm not sure that this is obvious to you ^

I mean you mention disease.. How many people die daily of all ages? We cannot singlehandedly stop disease and death. Not having sex will not be your salvation from disease.

Anything you do - including sex - can be overdone - and can become a negative experience and have a negative impact..

As I said above ----

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I doubt your soul will tell you "having sex with a female homosapien is inherently "bad" or "negative" in some way".... unless of course -- you turn it into something negative!

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posted June 03, 2011 09:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Road - I feel like you separate yourself from others, and critically analyse too much.. at the expense of human cohesion.

There is cohesion imo..
Everyone's plight is everyone else's plight.

I'm not sure that this is obvious to you ^

I mean you mention disease.. How many people die daily of all ages? We cannot singlehandedly stop disease and death. Not having sex will not be your salvation from disease.

Anything you do - including sex - can be overdone - and can become a negative experience and have a negative impact..

As I said above ----
Overdoing something to the point where it becomes energy draining and sickening - with the wrong people, in circumstances that are emotionally and psychologically damaging -- is a result of negative choices and it is saddening.

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I see your point more clearly now. Thank you. That is certainly something I'm working on. Currently I'm searching for a female who is deep sacred sex and positive spiritualality to share-myself with, but not until i overcome some hurdles that require 100 percent devotion and in real life I am very intuitive and sensitive, and passionate, not logical or overly critical at all, but when I write...my logical faculty tends to surface more....

It is hard however to find a woman or man for that matter like that who doesn't also believe in polygamy...it seems that after experience a higher sexual expression many women and men, both, instantly become polyamorous...

posted June 03, 2011 09:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Road - I feel like you separate yourself from others, and critically analyse too much.. at the expense of human cohesion.

There is cohesion imo..
Everyone's plight is everyone else's plight.

I'm not sure that this is obvious to you ^

I mean you mention disease.. How many people die daily of all ages? We cannot singlehandedly stop disease and death. Not having sex will not be your salvation from disease.

Anything you do - including sex - can be overdone - and can become a negative experience and have a negative impact..

As I said above ----
Overdoing something to the point where it becomes energy draining and sickening - with the wrong people, in circumstances that are emotionally and psychologically damaging -- is a result of negative choices and it is saddening.

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Hey betty....I think you are sort of setting your self apart too...I found this on the internet posted by someone else.

"The only reason why I'm monogamous is because of science and reason. Translation. Stds and AIDS. But if you. All R wearing rubbers than ok I get it but I doubt that. Nasty stds is why I choose one partner although statitistics prove most cheaters alre married. So can get disease anyway. And marriage is a lie for someone to get ur 401k and half ur pay. House and car so don't get married. Is Stupidity"

posted June 03, 2011 09:24 PM            

so I guess you were wrong afterall and I'm not overanalyzing it....

but after reading some of your posts...and the lack of forethought into them, and since you know you are personaly attacking people

I may have to say that you are a sociopath..

posted June 03, 2011 09:29 PM            

And since you didn't know that I knew this you may not be as smart as you think

and you may also wish to refrain from giving pschological advice on this board from hence forth...

unless you think giving un asked for psychological advice is not a personal attack..

In the meantime I'm happy to have healed your hatred for men by exposing you, in turn for your attempt to hurt me....as a form of defense...that you are actually feeling guilty yourself about being permiscuous, and I will in turn give you some advice...since i have proven to be more qualified in this..

Number one...sleep with less than ten people a week...I know this may be hard for you at first, but try slowly to ween yourself off of being permiscuous for the sake of your genitals.

Number two...do not give advice to peopel who don't ask for it...it makes you seem less permiscuous than what you really are,,, and that would be a lie...hence sociopathic.

number three...this is not a personal attack on you, this is a reflection of your own attack on me