posted June 03, 2011 03:07 PM            

I only have one planet in Water,
Neptune in Scorpio

This lack of water is compensated for by having strong planets in the Water Houses.

4th/Sun...angular
8th/Uranus...exalted house of Uranus
12th/Jupiter...Chart Ruler, Jupiter is home (co-ruler)

posted June 03, 2011 03:35 PM            

My book said that element voids can sometimes feel SO full of that element. That interested me cuz I just did an air void chart where she said she was VERY high in air qualities.

So ,a void CAN be uber in the element which is fascinating to me.
How can that be?
I get that the houses would help compensate but how could a void be STRONG in the element?
Do you know what I mean Lala?

posted June 03, 2011 11:18 PM            

I've only got one planet in air and one planet in water (respectively), but the one planet I have in air is my chart ruler and I have a water rising sign, so it slightly compensates.

posted June 04, 2011 04:47 AM            

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Originally posted by enchantress299:
Yeah, I've noticed that too...

I've only got one planet in air and one planet in water (respectively), but the one planet I have in air is my chart ruler and I have a water rising sign, so it slightly compensates.

I tend to attract heavy air signs (with fire voids) and heavy water signs (with earth voids). The water signs I can usually deal with and understand at least half the time... The air signs and I look at each other like we are from different planets. We are strangely fascinated and yet repelled by each other at the same time.

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Thanks Enchantress!!! That is fascinating especially about the attraction/repulsion part

posted June 04, 2011 04:49 AM            

Water sensitivity is directed inward, towards themselves. Their feelings get hurt easy.

Fire sensitivity is directed outwards towards others, like injustice.

I had to stop and think about that one.
I know I'm not thin skinned
but I cry for things I can not change,
injustice is a good word.

posted June 04, 2011 04:50 AM            

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Originally posted by starcrossedleo:
I have very few planets in water-2 if you count Chiron. Neptune in Scorpio and Chiron in Pisces. I feel I have a water void and when I found that out I was confused because I believe I feel things deeply and am sensitive but an astrologer told me that I feel things more acutely because I do not have the water to cushion it so I should drink lots of water. Conversely my ex has a ton of water and no fire so he seeks me for his fire.

My daughter has no air and a lot of water. Air is my largest element % wise.It's intersting ow people are placed in our lives to fill these elemental voids.

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See I don't understand HOW a water void could feel things more acutely?
What are your ideas? IF the element is missing(not counting secondary factors such as houses as Lala said) but as a element in itself, HOW could you be like an uber water sign?
Thanks so much for any insights.This was kind of my point in starting this thread.
I was wondering about things like this.
BTW, to me, the hardest void would be a water void .

posted June 04, 2011 04:54 AM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hi Ami,

Water sensitivity is directed inward, towards themselves. Their feelings get hurt easy.

Fire sensitivity is directed outwards towards others, like injustice.

I had to stop and think about that one.
I know I'm not thin skinned
but I cry for things I can not change,
injustice is a good word.

and for a Fire void Randall
you certainly inspire me.

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Hmmm
That is interesting about water and fire sensitivity Lala!
I very rarely cry for injustice lol
I only have 2 fire planets.

posted June 04, 2011 11:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
See I don't understand HOW a water void could feel things more acutely?
What are your ideas? IF the element is missing(not counting secondary factors such as houses as Lala said) but as a element in itself, HOW could you be like an uber water sign?
Thanks so much for any insights.This was kind of my point in starting this thread.
I was wondering about things like this.
BTW, to me, the hardest void would be a water void .

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Hi Ami,

I have no water in my chart, (12th house venus compensation). In my more youthful years, I was surrounded by Pisces friends, and lovers. I realised at some stage (I *woke up*), that I was attemting to "import" this element into my psyche. I can only say that, somehow, my psyche knew that I needed to blance itself. At this time, and still now, I can get very over emotional, and over empathetic. Probably because, as I have this elemental lack, it's kind of all over the place, not really managed effectively - more unconscious maybe.

There was a time, again in more youthful days, that I totally dissed emotions, thinking they were - I kid you not - a waste of time, and maybe even a weakness. My Piscean friends taught me a great, great lesson on this. Because what also came with it, was a love of art, poetry, music and the nuences in life, culture, and the human condition.

My progressed sun had moved to Pisces too at this time, so I was perhaps ripe for this lesson. Thankfully

Yes, so, as Randall said, I had to learn these qualities. And it seems like my "soul" or psyche led me to intergrate this into my self.

posted June 05, 2011 05:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Ami, the 2 you know with Fire voids, how would you describe each? I mean, how do they display their element lack?

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Did not see this Lonake.Sorry

Well,the two people SAY how hard it is for them to be exuberant about anything :how enthusiasm is like drops of water it is so precious and hard to come by.
I felt a pain for them cuz it seemed awful.
My earth void seems to be the easiest one,imo.

posted June 05, 2011 05:58 AM            

I don't overcompensate, no.

In my case I feel the lack of fire deeply. No fun, no enthusiasm, no drive. I've been in a depressed state pretty much my whole life.
In my opinion, fire void is the hardest.
It takes away your "gusto" for life.

At least in my case.

posted June 05, 2011 06:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you Sassaqua
That was totally the kind of info I was looking for.
Let me re-phrase your post and you tell me if I am right.
Inside you, deep and far away from your conscious awareness is the KNOWING about the element water.
It is like a buried spring of water--pure.
You have to dig it up somehow,unearth it.
Then ,you have a purer expression of water than someone who HAS a lot of water in the chart.
Does that fit? How/how not?

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Hmm.. unsure about "digging it up" if it wasn't there.

"Purer expression".. not sure about that either. It's probably more conscious, possibly more forced even, or exaggerated.. It doesn't feel mine. Just I tap into the force, somehow. It is outside of me though. I've only learned to recognise it outside of me and "put it on me" when I kind of see the cues.

Sounds so fake but.. it's the only way to access it. Maybe it does come across as fake. Sure hope not

You got me thinking now

posted June 05, 2011 09:37 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Hmm.. unsure about "digging it up" if it wasn't there.

"Purer expression".. not sure about that either. It's probably more conscious, possibly more forced even, or exaggerated.. It doesn't feel mine. Just I tap into the force, somehow. It is outside of me though. I've only learned to recognise it outside of me and "put it on me" when I kind of see the cues.

Sounds so fake but.. it's the only way to access it. Maybe it does come across as fake. Sure hope not

You got me thinking now

*don't confuse this with not feeling by the way. I do feel, and a lot too, because it is so conscious!

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OK I SEE
You have to look OUTSIDE for it.
I was really describing the unaspected planet.
This is the buried treasure placement.

The voids would be "trying to get it from the sky"lol

That makes sense.Of course,as Lala says you have to mine your chart for the element by houses or planets which rule the element.

For example, I have Saturn conjunct the ASC.It trines Mars and the Moon.
This is my "earth"
I have Pluto in the 10th house,an earth house.
That is the extent of my earth but it is pretty good.
I have very good discipline.I take a lot of pride in it.
When I can DO something in the material world,accomplish something, it does so much for me .