posted June 04, 2011 09:19 PM            

These energies feel like they are kind of "in the back of my mind". I can sometimes feel that I am not perceived as having strong self worth (Venus is square my Moon in 10th). That is, until the last hour I will come out and reveal it, maybe to other's surprise.

These energies are just not "out there" on display but kind of deep in my psyche.

Hope this helps

posted June 05, 2011 10:02 AM            

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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
Yes Ami, I totally agree in being able to know them as well as you know yourself. I feel like I know this person better then I know any other human in my life, it's so interesting. I feel I can influence them in a way that few others can in his life.

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I KNOW.It is so strange sounding when you describe it but so natural like a waterfall which flows effortlessly.

posted June 05, 2011 08:22 PM            

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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
I would love to know. My 12th house is primarily Virgo, so given that the significant people in my life have zero Virgo in their charts, I can't say I've ever had that 12th house experience. However, my planets fall into a few peoples 12th house. What does this feel like?

(I'm thinking of Mars/general synastry in particular, btw)

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Pisces Mars s in my 12th... Along with his Sun/Mercury.. But Merc is closer to my Asc..

Mars in a partner's twelfth house:
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When your Mars is in your romantic partner’s twelfth house, you enjoy your time alone together. You partner will share his or her innermost feelings with you and feels less inhibited in your company. When your relationship partner’s Mars is in your twelfth house, you can become angry with the way your partner pressures you to reveal very intimate details of your life experience, yet you tend to comply because you feel physically and emotionally bonded to your partner beyond all others.
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This is a cook book interpretation.. But I found it very accurate.

He does pressure me to talk to him about personal things.. It really bothered me at first.. He got SOO mad telling me, YOU NEVER tell me ANYTHING!!!
He just doesnt understand the questions he's asking.. Very hard for me to discuss..
I do feel a deep need to confide in him.. I have but still not totally..

posted June 05, 2011 08:28 PM            

These things are what the 12th house synastry evokes and feels and means.

I just know what I feel. Beyond that, I am powerless

posted June 05, 2011 10:40 PM            

lighting up the darknessThe positive is that you can help the 12th house person get to know himself better. You can encourage the 12th house person to open up about secrets, share sorrows, and help this person release internal grief and trauma. You may find a shared interest in spiritual activities. The 12th house person can help you learn to relax and let go of the need to be doing things. You may find your actions becoming increasingly spiritually-oriented and you may find yourself acting more strongly from a place of inner knowing."

"Someone whose Mars fell in my 12th house liked me but I never believed him because he was so brutally honest with me. Also, his wanting to constantly analyze my private thoughts became intrusive. I couldn't hide from him the way I was used to hiding from others. Even when I'd be thinking something, he would text me responding to my thoughts. :-/"

posted June 06, 2011 09:42 AM            

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Originally posted by cappy1277:
Wow Ami! You really hit it on the nail. His mars is in my 12th and my venus is in his 12th. I always think that my love for him is indescribable. I always equated it with a mother's love...I just want to nurture him & help him grow. Its sooo spiritual. His mars in my 12th feels intrusive too. Like he's always prying. He says I clam up when he wants to talk about "feelings." But I gush it all out anyway. There's a certain level of comfort there & we're very much a homey & private couple.

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However,when I think of it,I think one can describe the 12th house as KNOWING the person in a pure way to their soul.
You have a laser like knowing of the deepest parts of them, an intimacy which is so beyond physical or mental.
It is soul intimacy.

posted June 06, 2011 10:28 AM            

However,12th house is more of a SEEING that person without his defenses.

He is stripped naked and in that way he is like your baby cuz your baby is naked to you.

I think the 12th house is different than Moon/Pluto in that with the 12th house you KNOW them as you know your baby.
It is more of a spiritual and soul knowing than a visceral/emotional feeling.

With Moon /Pluto,you FEEL them as you feel your baby,perhaps.

With this person,no matter what he did to me,I could never hurt him.
I KNEW him ,the inside him the inside angst.
How could I add more pain to that?

posted June 06, 2011 10:54 AM            

I feel I've known her all my life, that she knows me completely, even the first day we met. It is a very deep soul connection, the most amazing thing that has ever happened to either of us.

She has always felt close like family to me, and that bond grows stronger, or perhaps becomes more apparent, as we do come together as a family.

posted June 06, 2011 11:01 AM            

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Originally posted by cappy1277:
i agree ami anne. my moon trines his pluto and his moon sextiles my pluto.

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YES Cappy
I had a DW Moon/Pluto,too lol

posted June 06, 2011 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by cappy1277:
not to mention DW saturn ties- my venus trine his saturn and his venus oppose my saturn and his moon trine my saturn. strange ties that scare the life out of me but enthrall nonetheless...lol. guess I am a glutton for punishment.

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We had Saturn trine Saturn .His Mars was an exact conjunction to my Saturn,too.

Do you have Nessus /Deja with him Cappy?

posted June 06, 2011 12:59 PM            

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Originally posted by cappy1277:
his dejanira trine my moon opposing my saturn. his nessus trines my venus. my dejanira conjunct his sun and my nessus opposite his NN.

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How exact is each one Cappy. They only work when 2 degrees or less,imo.

posted June 06, 2011 01:09 PM            

my aspects of dejanira and nessus to his points are wider orbs. its actually my dejanira to his moon not his sun. his dajanira is sextile my dejanira by 1d.