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4lifephrases
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posted June 08, 2011 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hi LLFolks,

I don't know which other sign has to deal with this but I feel I care far too much what others think, what others word meant and to validate things whether they are right or wrong for me. It takes whole lot of chunk of my time.

I know every person likes to be liked and loved thus when they hear anything which isn't same they feel bad.

I would like to think I am very non-judgmental and look at people patiently.I sometimes do not care how bad people sing, dance as I see all this as positive, I can see they are trying.

I spent ages thinking about what someone said, why they said. I try very hard to think something else, or do something else but it is just not possible to shake those feelings.
It affects my work.

I have seen my husband who is Aries and no matter what people tell him, he do not get affected at all.

Me as a Scorpio Sun, Aries Moon and Sag Asc. Find it far too difficult to get rid of them.
I know we can't please everyone but sometimes I can't believe how people can be rude and mean. Especially when I can see and feel far too much.

I know they say that Scorpio doesn't care what others think. It is definitely not happening with me. What I want to know is that is there something I need to do to evolve? Some of you in this forum who are elder to me can help.

As I am also worried that if I ignore everyone around me, I wouldn't have chance to better myself as well.

Truth is a concept which is unknown and we are mostly left with perspective. Various perspective. How do I know whether the one I have is right one?

My heart decisions are questioned so much and are always condemned.

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samsaoule
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posted June 08, 2011 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for samsaoule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 4lifephrases:

Hi LLFolks,

I don't know which other sign has to deal with this but I feel I care far too much what others think, what others word meant and to validate things whether they are right or wrong for me. It takes whole lot of chunk of my time.

I know every person likes to be liked and loved thus when they hear anything which isn't same they feel bad.

I would like to think I am very non-judgmental and look at people patiently.I sometimes do not care how bad people sing, dance as I see all this as positive, I can see they are trying.

I spent ages thinking about what someone said, why they said. I try very hard to think something else, or do something else but it is just not possible to shake those feelings.
It affects my work.

I have seen my husband who is Aries and no matter what people tell him, he do not get affected at all.

Me as a Scorpio Sun, Aries Moon and Sag Asc. Find it far too difficult to get rid of them.
I know we can't please everyone but sometimes I can't believe how people can be rude and mean. Especially when I can see and feel far too much.

I know they say that Scorpio doesn't care what others think. It is definitely not happening with me. What I want to know is that is there something I need to do to evolve? Some of you in this forum who are elder to me can help.

As I am also worried that if I ignore everyone around me, I wouldn't have chance to better myself as well.

Truth is a concept which is unknown and we are mostly left with perspective. Various perspective. How do I know whether the one I have is right one?

My heart decisions are questioned so much and are always condemned.


It seems you have a lack of confidence based on the fact your feelings are not properly acknowledged by others. Actually, at some point (in your childhood), it may have been true, but now it may not be the case anymore. If you feel it is still the case, then I would advise you to follow a good psychotherapy to free yourself from those old psychological patterns. At the same time, try to interact as much as possible with others/friends telling them your opinion, showing who you are. Behavioural therapy might be particularly helpfull in your case.

Best wishes
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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you have something else going on.
You can put your chart up and I will look.
It sounds like Saturn someplace.
Perhaps ,you have some asteroids that are doing this as well.
However,it sounds like some major planets.
I would think Saturn and a personal planet or an angle

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posted June 08, 2011 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ecomat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 4lifephrases:

Hi LLFolks,

I don't know which other sign has to deal with this but I feel I care far too much what others think, what others word meant and to validate things whether they are right or wrong for me. It takes whole lot of chunk of my time.

I know every person likes to be liked and loved thus when they hear anything which isn't same they feel bad.

I would like to think I am very non-judgmental and look at people patiently.I sometimes do not care how bad people sing, dance as I see all this as positive, I can see they are trying.

I spent ages thinking about what someone said, why they said. I try very hard to think something else, or do something else but it is just not possible to shake those feelings.
It affects my work.

I have seen my husband who is Aries and no matter what people tell him, he do not get affected at all.

Me as a Scorpio Sun, Aries Moon and Sag Asc. Find it far too difficult to get rid of them.
I know we can't please everyone but sometimes I can't believe how people can be rude and mean. Especially when I can see and feel far too much.

I know they say that Scorpio doesn't care what others think. It is definitely not happening with me. What I want to know is that is there something I need to do to evolve? Some of you in this forum who are elder to me can help.

As I am also worried that if I ignore everyone around me, I wouldn't have chance to better myself as well.

Truth is a concept which is unknown and we are mostly left with perspective. Various perspective. How do I know whether the one I have is right one?

My heart decisions are questioned so much and are always condemned.


i absolutely see what you mean.
it shouldn't be lack of confidence or things like that, i think you were just "made" to operate that way. (me, too, in a lot of ways. i like to say, that if i feel a person is acting from the heart and is honest, i can 'forgive' a lot of things.)
i also happen to care much (too much? not sure...) for what others think, but i very rarely let it show.

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4lifephrases
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posted June 08, 2011 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do not know about Behavior Therapy. I know I didn't have best childhood but I really want to move on with my old behavior. I have always been person who analyse but I know in future I have to deal with loads of people and I can't worry about them but my dilemma is finding whether they are right or not.

I also have to travel and I see more difference of opinions due to difference of cultures. Thus not knowing what is right or wrong.

This is the chart.

This is natal and progressed chart.

I didn't know which Asteroids.

I know there is a constant conflict between Aries and Libra energy. I am still not sure what is right ?

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Betty Boop
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posted June 08, 2011 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's no right ^

You won't find a "right" imo....

Basically -- you have a lot of social signs in your chart and most of your planets are in transpersonal houses, so it is normal for you to focus on other people.
I think you beat yourself up about it too much..
I think the Aries Moon in you is saying "But I really shouldn't care!".
But if you care, then you just do! There is a reason why you care.. People who DO care about others - are needed in the world. If everyone was purely Aries - I'm not sure we'd coexist for very long.

It's possible that you take things to heart too much - due to your Neptune T-square.

I'm not big on Dr Phil.. but he did say something, probably years ago (I have an elephant's memory lol) which stuck with me and which I agree with.. It was along these lines -

"You wouldn't care so much about what other people think of you, if you realised how little they did!"

The truth is in daily life - we tend to focus more on ourselves.. Like right now you are focusing on how you're perceived by others... but all of those *other* people (or a great majority of them.. give or take an anti-social aries or two lol) will be thinking about how *you* perceive them.

Try to see and take in everything you see, but don't let it affect you emotionally.. because the truth is, often - it has zero emotional baggage.

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I spent ages thinking about what someone said, why they said. I try very hard to think something else

Why do you feel like their words are so important? They may have forgotten what they said the next day.. maybe it was just a passing comment for them (I mean I don't know the context.)

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4lifephrases
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posted June 09, 2011 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank Betty Boop and everyone.

After my post here I had conversation with my husband- Aries Sun and I had never seen that everything is subjective.I have valued opinion of elder and authority.

I think I get it that there is no right or wrong.maybe problem is finding whether according to me it is right or wrong takes time.

Earlier if there was someone who would say bad then I would assume they are bad people and get rid of my life. Now as I am growing I have realized that I can't ignore people they would always be there and I still have to work or be with them.

Maybe sometimes I don't understand different tones how people say things. I guess I am person who likes to listen good sounds, good words and I do not like people to say bad things. I mostly learn by listening. I do not mind when people swear but despite my good intentions when people tend to just say bad it hurts.I get it that they have their opinions and no matter how nasty they are, they can have one.

I want peace most of the time and I do not want to fight on difference of opinions. I wonder how Aries energy can enjoy that. Yes, sometimes I can't be assertive as I would like to, as I try to see other people's opinion as well. I think it is for me to love people even when they are so grey shades.

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Aya_and_baby
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posted June 09, 2011 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, I tend to think it's more a problem with your personal chart. I generally let go of things quite easily (some things obviously excluded, like my last little situation with a man - it seems I can't really let that go yet) despite being a Scorpio sun. I have half my chart in Sagittarius of course, so towards letting go that probably helps.

But when I can't let something go, it does seem very hard for me to get myself over it. For example, what I do care about a lot is how people think of me. When, for some reason, someone has formed an opinion of me that is not entirely true and is a bit... insulting, I just can't let go of it until I know the full story and put it straight. If someone else thinks I'm a c*** for no other reason than that they didn't like the sight of me, and that they never tried to talk to me, I can very easily let it go. I just conclude then that such people aren't worth getting fussed over.

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4lifephrases
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posted June 10, 2011 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just figured that... I can't let it go is
because I want to inform the truth.(Mercury in Sag)Yes, I can't react and not care but I want to tell them what I think so that they can see a different perspective.It is also a defense thing.

Another thing is expectation,People whom I love the most and I see them in most positive light and I expect that they love me for who I am as well. I start off the relationship good..good and I do not expect them to be bad. Despite my good intentions they want to misunderstand and name in certain way...I would like to set them straight but honestly after a while it all sounds noise.One can't please everyone anyways.

No matter what you try to explain to people it doesn't matter.

I guess it is tiring experience justifying ones actions and show your point of view.
No wonder then we get misunderstood.

If we ever try to explain ourselves mostly people aren't interested or think it is too complicated. When we don't explain ourselves we are called Secretive...lol...

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4lifephrases
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posted June 10, 2011 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aya and baby: It is usually just loved ones from whom I expect love but I guess they are the ones who hurt most. Again maybe it is expectation.

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4lifephrases
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posted June 10, 2011 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are born not to be liked but to do right thing.

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Aya_and_baby
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posted June 10, 2011 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 4lifephrases:
Aya and baby: It is usually just loved ones from whom I expect love but I guess they are the ones who hurt most. Again maybe it is expectation.

Could be expectation - I seem to have the same problem: the more I love someone, the less I can let something go. Incidentally, we do have the same sun, mercury and rising

Well, and saturn and pluto and uranus and neptune, but they're all slow planets anyway

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WateryAir33
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posted June 11, 2011 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WateryAir33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 4lifephrases:

Hi LLFolks,

I don't know which other sign has to deal with this but I feel I care far too much what others think, what others word meant and to validate things whether they are right or wrong for me. It takes whole lot of chunk of my time.

I know every person likes to be liked and loved thus when they hear anything which isn't same they feel bad.

I would like to think I am very non-judgmental and look at people patiently.I sometimes do not care how bad people sing, dance as I see all this as positive, I can see they are trying.

I spent ages thinking about what someone said, why they said. I try very hard to think something else, or do something else but it is just not possible to shake those feelings.
It affects my work.

I have seen my husband who is Aries and no matter what people tell him, he do not get affected at all.

Me as a Scorpio Sun, Aries Moon and Sag Asc. Find it far too difficult to get rid of them.
I know we can't please everyone but sometimes I can't believe how people can be rude and mean. Especially when I can see and feel far too much.

I know they say that Scorpio doesn't care what others think. It is definitely not happening with me. What I want to know is that is there something I need to do to evolve? Some of you in this forum who are elder to me can help.

As I am also worried that if I ignore everyone around me, I wouldn't have chance to better myself as well.

Truth is a concept which is unknown and we are mostly left with perspective. Various perspective. How do I know whether the one I have is right one?

My heart decisions are questioned so much and are always condemned.


Oh you sound just like me! But I'd think with your Aries moon and Saggie ascendent you wouldn't even have enough time to care about what others think because those signs are known for an upbeat, positive outlook on life. I guess your Scorpio sun took over. You and I are one in the same--when someone says something to us, and if it's hurtful, we tend to replay the words in our head trying to figure out why someone would say such things.

I guess the first thing you need to do is figure out why the words of others bother you so much. And also I would think about the place that the other person is coming from. Perhaps they were actually trying to help you. There's a difference b/w criticism and constructive criticism...

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