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boldbutbold
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posted June 08, 2011 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for boldbutbold     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am gonna try to keep this as simple as possible in hopes that someone "brave" enough would answer.

When you have an opposition in synastry or composite (if applicable) who would feel it the most or be most affected by it.
Examples:
Moon opp Pluto
Sun opp Pluto
Venus opp Pluto
Mars opp Pluto

All within a 0* orb?

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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are so considerate to keep it short.
Each person feels it differently,you could say.
The short answer,though, would be Pluto

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boldbutbold
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posted June 08, 2011 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for boldbutbold     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And Again Ami Anne (say that tens times fast...whew:ballgrin:, Thank you so much for taking the time out to answer my "easy" question. And as always, you're great

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posted June 08, 2011 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awwww Thank you Boldbutbold
We are gonna have to abbreviate your name lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

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posted June 08, 2011 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think if its someone in your same generation, that the pluto person feels it... Because the planet person is used to that pluto with everyone the same age..

If its someone out of the usual age range, and its something new for the planet person, I think its then stronger for the planet person, but still the pluto person feels it..

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posted June 08, 2011 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mermaid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have read that whenever the aspect is between personal planets and outer planets its the inner planet person that feels the most.
In this case every personal planet is opposite pluto within a tight orb so its definitely the personal planet person who is going to the feel the effect of Pluto.The attraction/obsession is always equally felt by both but the personal planet person will feel the manipulation,power play,control issues while the Pluto may be oblivious to the effect its having on the personal planet

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posted June 08, 2011 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus Sq Pluto in my Natal..

So everyone in my age range, their Pluto will square my Venus... I dont feel the Venus/Sq Pluto aspect... Its normal for me there's not much of a difference from person to person..

Now, when I dated someone younger and his pluto hit my moon, boy did I feel that one!
Unexplainable felt it, like no other..

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posted June 09, 2011 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for boldbutbold     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I usually dated older men (by at least 10 years)in the past so that would make since about the age and plutos place in it but my fiance is 4 yrs older than me. We both have pluto transits in our natal. We were the same type of person when we were single but together we have turned into mush (in a good way) In my past relationships I have always been the dominant person seeking "control" over all. And of course these relationships did not last and ended just as quickly as they started.
BUT
In this realtionship The tables have turned, mutually. It seems as though (due to the lack of words) I want to be sunmissive with him. I don't know why with all this aries and leo power going on inside me. Here's our chart maybe you could see what's at work here.

TOGETHER http://www.astro.com/tmpd/c8npfile3LdkLR-u1304451659/astro_621gw_03_02_cory_tamara.61506.11843.pdf

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posted June 09, 2011 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The person who has it natally would feel it less. Or at least it would make less of an impact. And in general, personal planets are felt much more strongly than generational planets.

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posted June 09, 2011 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for boldbutbold     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, it would be accurate to say that we would equally feel the effects because we BOTH have the same aspects natally? (at least the aspects in question, anyhow)

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posted June 09, 2011 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for boldbutbold     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...And to say "feel" what is the person "feeling"

Example:
The jealousy or the reactions to the jealous person?

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maira
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posted June 09, 2011 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amowls**:
The person who has it natally would feel it less. Or at least it would make less of an impact. And in general, personal planets are felt much more strongly than generational planets.

amwols, could you please explain more?
I always thought that the person who has it natally feels it more - for instance, natal Pluto in aspect to personal planets would make that person more inclined to develop obsessions, right?

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posted June 09, 2011 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by maira:
amwols, could you please explain more?
I always thought that the person who has it natally feels it more - for instance, natal Pluto in aspect to personal planets would make that person more inclined to develop obsessions, right?

Well Maira
I think she means that if one is used to the energy it is not as intense as one who is not.
Think of exercising.If you were used to running 10 miles, 5 miles would be easy.
The person who does not run at ALL would be bowled over if they tried to run 5 miles.


I can attest to this with an unaspected Venus which someone aspected with exact Pluto trines and a Neptune opposition.
I did not know what hit me.
It was virgin territory if you will excuse the pun

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Lioness
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posted June 09, 2011 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by maira:
amwols, could you please explain more?
I always thought that the person who has it natally feels it more - for instance, natal Pluto in aspect to personal planets would make that person more inclined to develop obsessions, right?

I have venus sq pluto... Also Pluto in H7..

Ive never been obsessed with anyone my age.. Though I do feel the power struggle..

Its a normal feeling, when someone else pluto hits my venus... It no different from what I feel everyday...

Now as I said before, when someone's pluto hit my Leo Stellium (I do not have in natal) I really felt the obsession.. My Venus sq Pluto was drawn out even deeper to a level I never experienced before...

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boldbutbold
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posted June 10, 2011 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for boldbutbold     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioness I feel your "definition" exactly, and yours too Ami Anne. I totally do not run 5 or 10 miles but when his pluto hit my Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars...your talking about a feeling... ...I'm talking about whoa . I was scared at first but I kinda like it (can you tell I learned how to use the smilies templates...lol) but to top that off, my Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars conjunct his Venus wow!

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