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starfox
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posted June 09, 2011 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Capricorn sun and a Taurus moon, so supposedly I should be a materialist right?

& yet I couldn't care less about being £££ rich or owning the latest 'brand X' must have products, in fact materialism and amassing lots of stuff bores me dreadfully.

Where am I going wrong..?

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CrazyAquarian
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posted June 09, 2011 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starfox:

Where am I going wrong..?

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That you are only looking at your sun and moon.

But also those signs care about their image and status.

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starfox
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posted June 09, 2011 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CrazyAquarian:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by starfox:

Where am I going wrong..?



That you are only looking at your sun and moon.

But also those signs care about their image and status.[/B][/QUOTE]

So, where would I find the non-materialist side that seems to override my sun and moon?

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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted June 09, 2011 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<<<<playing devils advocate here

maybe you're in denial

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CrazyAquarian
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posted June 09, 2011 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
<<<<playing devils advocate here

maybe you're in denial


hehe yep, most do deny, I have yet to meet one to admits it.
Because they want their image to look good! haha

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CrazyAquarian
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posted June 09, 2011 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starfox:
So, where would I find the non-materialist side that seems to override my sun and moon?

WEll its quite hard to overrule the sun and moon
but look at their aspects first.

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starfox
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posted June 09, 2011 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
<<<<playing devils advocate here

maybe you're in denial


maybe?

No but really, owning loads of stuff I see it as just a distraction, being somewaht wealthy is useful in that you can get better healthcare etc, but constant greed for more and more money..just why???

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Benedict Moon*
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posted June 09, 2011 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an earth moon, ASC, Jupiter and I could care less about being rich and I'm terrible with mundane stuff like bills and insurance and taxes but man, I have a terrible habit of resorting to retail therapy when I'm at a low ebb. And I am a little possessive about my *stuff*. ***And earth doesn't always = materialistic, btw. Maybe you have a strong affinity for nature? That's another possibility.


Why don't you post the rest of your chart? The only thing I can remember about you is your Aqua ASC.

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Ami Anne
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posted June 09, 2011 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Starfox
I will look at house rulers.That will show areas of life which as important to you

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amowls**
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posted June 09, 2011 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2nd house is possessions (the material kind). Perhaps you have 2nd house in Pisces which would make one not give a crap at all about material things.

I can be materialistic. I have 2nd house in Cancer, Moon in Libra. Also Venus in the 10th. I like nice things.

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posted June 09, 2011 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mother Teresa was a Taurus moon.

I have a taurus moon and four planets in capricorn including my 2nd house ruler (which is in the 5th) as well as venus and jupiter, and I hate materialism with an ardent passion. If I could chuck it all and live in a yurt in alaska with a few of the most ascetic basics I would. Modern society and especially American materialism drives me bonkers. We didn't incarnate to be greedy and pollute or judge others based on their having the new iphone. I mean wtf?

My chart in case people really want to know or tell me why.. http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/xatnes/solrclnat.gif

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posted June 09, 2011 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have cap on the cusp of my 2nd house and venus in cap.
I do love material things, but they are far from important to me. Although I am possessive of them, but I'm possessive of everything. Scorpio Moon :P

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acousticbob
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posted June 09, 2011 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for acousticbob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe you could interpret the capricorn description of 'materialistic' as meaning you fight hard to get what you want. In your case it may not be wealth but some other aspect of life you fight for..
I have mars in cap and I hate materialism too, although I do like nice cars.. hmmm... My North Node is Cancer which also indicates a possible affinity with capricorn too..

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posted June 10, 2011 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
starfox -

quote:
in fact materialism and amassing lots of stuff bores me dreadfully.

Where is your Mars?
And where is your Saturn?

Sign&House ^


acousticbob,

quote:
I have mars in cap and I hate materialism too

Really? That's quite strange for this placement.
I have it myself.

As far as I'm concerned money means a hell of a LOT in terms of its usefulness.
Lack of money can lead to -- bad health, under-the-par living conditions, inability to help others in need (no actual power to make any changes or help anyone), inability to provide your family/future kids with a nice standard of living/good education and so forth, inability to travel & see the world -- and a number of other problems.

Actually there are people starving to death daily due to lack of money. So it is really extremely important and can make the difference between survival and death.

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posted June 10, 2011 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I've seen there aren't alot of Capricorns who are materialistic. I have met a few Taureans with materialistic tendencies but in my experience earth signs are very generous and don't really care that much about money.
I feel that the descriptions for earth is too negative and for fire too positive. There may be some bias behind all that.

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Lehia2
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posted June 10, 2011 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lehia2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Taurus rising, moon in capricorn, sun, mars and merc in h2..and i like nice things but I'm in no way materialistic. I'm very disorganized with bills, when I choose a job the pay isn't the most important thing, and I go to shopping sprees whenever I get a chance. Also, I wish I was a bit more cheap because I can't save money if my life depended on it.

edit: add to that a cancer sun..cancers are supposed to be good at saving right? lol

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posted June 10, 2011 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:
2nd house is possessions (the material kind). Perhaps you have 2nd house in Pisces which would make one not give a crap at all about material things.

I can be materialistic. I have 2nd house in Cancer, Moon in Libra. Also Venus in the 10th. I like nice things.


I have my second house in Aries..

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posted June 10, 2011 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
starfox -

Really? That's quite strange for this placement.
I have it myself.

As far as I'm concerned money means a hell of a LOT in terms of its usefulness.
Lack of money can lead to -- bad health, under-the-par living conditions, inability to help others in need (no actual power to make any changes or help anyone), inability to provide your family/future kids with a nice standard of living/good education and so forth, inability to travel & see the world -- and a number of other problems.

Actually there are people starving to death daily due to lack of money. So it is really extremely important and can make the difference between survival and death.


I agree, its just the constant non stop money greed of some people that does appal, why would you want £Billions? you can never spend it all ???

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posted June 10, 2011 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess you could look at your ASC, and the sign the ASC ruler is in as to your general personality , in the same way you would look at Sun and Moon. Materialism is a second house thingy. Aries on second house can show you spend money on your appearance.

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posted June 10, 2011 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starfox:
I have a Capricorn sun and a Taurus moon, so supposedly I should be a materialist right?

& yet I couldn't care less about being £££ rich or owning the latest 'brand X' must have products, in fact materialism and amassing lots of stuff bores me dreadfully.

Where am I going wrong..?


Another Cap Sun / Taurus Moon here...I'm not really materialistic, I'm more scared of ending up penniless and living in complete poverty. I wouldn't handle being rich very well...I'm not a big spender, I enjoy saving money, keeping it for rainy days...Brands do not interest me...

I don't think that every person with a lot of earth in their chart is materialistic. However, I do think that they know the true value of things.

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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted June 10, 2011 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll add to what chaos has said

I'm going to use capricorn in particular because something just occurred to me. In the tarot; the 4 of pentacles is also connected to the sun in capricorn. The interpretation of this card speaks of a reluctance to take a risk (with ambition/money) due to a fear of losing what one already has.

It's staying in the job you hate because it provides a baseline income that provides for the basics.

This could be considered materialistic even if one isn't striving to make millions.

On the plus side, we get tradition that enables a feeling of stability from capricorn...

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posted June 10, 2011 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
I'll add to what chaos has said

I'm going to use capricorn in particular because something just occurred to me. In the tarot; the 4 of pentacles is also connected to the sun in capricorn. The interpretation of this card speaks of a reluctance to take a risk (with ambition/money) due to a fear of losing what one already has.

It's staying in the job you hate because it provides a baseline income that provides for the basics.

This could be considered materialistic even if one isn't striving to make millions.

On the plus side, we get tradition that enables a feeling of stability from capricorn...


Hi, to yourself and to chaos yes that makes sense

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