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crabbypatty
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posted June 10, 2011 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Ami Anne
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posted June 10, 2011 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome Crabby
I can't wait for Betty's insights and I will take a look, too !

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 11, 2011 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Betty Boop
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posted June 11, 2011 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Crabby! Thanks for posting this It's good for research

You have so many squares/friction and few 'easy' aspects.
I don't like to see un-aspected planets in synastry either - as it shows areas where people are completely disinterested in each other.

About his Mars/Neptune.. It's interesting that your JUPITER is there.. Jupiter is the planet of honesty and fairness. It is the ruler of your MC (so it can bear more importance in your chart).
In some ways Jupiter and Neptune are very much at odds.
Jupiter is very overt and open.. whereas Neptune is hidden. Do you interpret his actions as very secretive & perhaps devious... as though he always seems to be hiding something?
This conjunction can have a similar vibe to a Sagittarius *square* Pisces aspect.. where forward blunt honesty, comes up against deceptive/imaginative versions of reality.
It can also show that you have the best of intentions in helping him (Jupiter is known for its positive influence).. However you have to be careful because this aspect (like other Neptune conjunctions in synastry) can lead to a saviour complex.. where you might strongly want to save him from himself -- but in the process, you could both drown.

Also, Jupiter is the epitome of optimism, while Neptune can stand for melancholy/depression. This is probably why you pick up on his depression and feel like it affects you. It is very much in your face, due to this conjunction.

His Saturn is close to your Venus (not exact.. but I would still count it)...

There is a HUGE contrast here between your happy positive take in Libra... Your Venus and Jupiter - both traditional considered benefics.. both lovable, easy-going, optimistic planets..... and his Neptune/Saturn/Mars in Libra (planets that are all in some ways seen as "difficult" to deal with)..
You may feel imposed upon often ^ as a result.
But he might also be attracted to you.. which I'm not even sure is a good thing (not necessarily romantically attracted)... But just attracted to your energy.
He probably feels like there is something about you that can make him happier -- and he can even become possessive of your friendship.
But in the process -- this relationship can become toxic for you ^
You are giving - and he is taking.. That's probably the dynamic here.

Your Saturn is un-aspected in synastry -- which could be why you perceive him as immature and unable to cope in life.
Even though you both have planets in Capricorn.. (Sun & Mars)... your Mars is disposited (sp?) by Saturn in Taurus ( a fixed earth sign) -- whereas his Sun is disposited by Saturn in Libra which goes on to square his Sun (not pretty!). The insecurities you describe and the overdone caution.. could also be a result of this aspect.

Your Neptune is likewise un-aspected, for the most part (no major aspects!).. so it's not surprising that when you try to communicate spiritual ideas and encourage him -- he reacts by criticising you.
He probably does not grasp your own Neptune.. He can't see eye to eye or he does not understand where you are coming from.


This is all I've got for now - but I'll come back!

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crabbypatty
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posted June 12, 2011 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Boop,

Thank you for having taken the time to analyze our synastry and need I tell you that you are really accurate on most of the points?

I don't want to trash this man, though, because there WERE reasons, after all, that I was attracted to him and ended up MARRYing him. He is a man with a very good heart, he is supremely intelligent and therefore is stellar as an attorney (met him in the office) and you wouldn't want anyone else with you in a fire or other emergency; he's sort of got this brave soldier vibe in certain situations.

Unfortunately, the rest of the time (when he's not being super competent at work) he can be a total downer. Even my mother thinks so, and she is a Capricorn.

I don't understand the whole concept of signs being disposited _ but yes, part of me sees him as immature. Not that I think he can't cope in life, but he does a lot of sulking and moping so that everyone else knows he isn't happy with [insert outcome].

As far as spirituality is concerned, he is of the school of thought that you get put in the ground and you rot and it's over. I might have succeeded, over the course of ten years, in making a small dent in his thinking, but it's a very small one.

I wonder, Boop, whether there is another woman out there who could not only fall in love with him but actually stay happy with him. I would be so glad (once I got the gumption to leave) to know that he is paired up with someone who he could feel happiness with. What do you think? Is she out there?

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Ami Anne
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posted June 12, 2011 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is just a thought as I have not studied the chart and Betty's answer,yet.
He has the dichotomy of Cancer and Capricorn.He is Cap on the outside and Cancer on the inside.
Maybe ,he is too polarized and this is the problem.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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