posted June 10, 2011 06:36 AM            

lol, ok in that he does everything at the last minute. but he never feels guilty about it, at least not visibly. it's as if it's the only way and he knows no other. it's REALLY irritating and frustrating to watch. and i'm the one who grew up being told by my own mother exactly that. well, he wins this competition, i'm no match!

the curious thing is that he has most of his planets jammed into Virgo. it feels like a very un-Virgo behaviour to me...

like just now, he was filling some important papers that have to be sent out latest today. he was getting all agitated and angry that he made one mistake and he doesn't have an extra copy. then i needed his help for something and naturally he was too occupied, and told me that he feels sorry but i have to understand that he has to take care of his own things (like telling me i have to be more independent and responsible myself. not very credible coming from this person ). everyday is like this, but the word "preparation" never occurs to him, and that he can perhaps use his time more efficiently and further more make himself useful too when others need help.

once, we had to go to Holland and booked tickets. he had to move out of his room and put all of his things in the attic before he left. well, he decided to move all the stuff 1 hour before the train. i made sure to him repeatedly in the days before, but he just got irritated at me. naturally, we missed the train. and i asked him to give me back the money for the missed train. eventually he did, but he really felt that i was being irrational to make him pay for it, which just really perplexed me...

but this, he never sees that it has something to do with himself. he doesn't learn from these experiences and try to do things earlier.

ok, i'm a bit ranty, but just WHY is he so retarded?

posted June 10, 2011 01:21 PM            

his 11th and 12th houses are Sagi. Jupiter is in the 3rd house... sextiled by Saturn, which is his chart ruler... i don't have a clue what's causing his disastrous management skill...!

posted June 11, 2011 03:31 AM            

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the procrastination comes from a passive aggressive source. Don't just look at his actions (or inaction in this case), also pay attention to the circumstances around the time it happened, what was going on emotionally etc. that may give you more insight.

posted June 11, 2011 06:34 AM            

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Originally posted by CrazyAquarian:
Mars/Neptune

"I want to, eh....I'll day dream about doing it"

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WoooooW Lonake, i was wondering if it shows up, but yea he is an intensively anarchistic person. he was a punk all his life and now he grew out of the style but he still is inside. he has problems with being controlled, i see his procrastination also as a way for him to sabotage all things systematized.

Wikipedia description about punk ideologies describes him to the point.

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Punk-related ideologies are mostly concerned with individual freedom and anti-establishment views. Common punk viewpoints include anti-authoritarianism, a DIY ethic, non-conformity, direct action and not selling out. Other notable trends in punk politics include nihilism, anarchism, socialism, anti-militarism, anti-capitalism, anti-racism, anti-sexism, anti-nationalism, anti-homophobia, environmentalism, vegetarianism, veganism and animal rights.

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he's not political or engaged in any activist practices. i think he was born punk. it's pretty funny and revealing to see it in his Natal chart, isn't it!? i'm a bit impressed.

and to me it makes sense what you say, about the "symptom" coming from different aspects coming together as an effect, it feels very complicated rather than just laziness.

the funny comparison is my ex-bf, who was from a American middle-class suburban family, who everyone called an anarchist. he WANTED so bad to be like that, and he was (probably still is) a political activist (who always stayed in the safe-zones lol), but he was a middle-class suburban kid all-the-way. i wish i knew his birth time.

posted December 08, 2015 02:38 PM            

My aspects Saturn Conjunct Uranus
Uranus sextile ASC and Sun
Saturn Square Mars.- Hate having my energy stifled or feeling limited.
Theres more but those are the ones that come to mind..I do have that Jupiter Opposite Venus (laziness but only when it comes to love/seeking someone out)

posted December 10, 2015 06:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Venus is the most common culprit that I run across. His is conj Sun in Virgo and conj Mercury in Libra (Venus sign). Since his is in the 8th with Pluto conj Moon too it may be a bit of a concealed power trip for him. I'm sure the Moon conj Uranus does not want to run on anyone else's time table either. All the planets in the 8th will render him quite Scorpionic in his ways, and they will not be rushed.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the procrastination comes from a passive aggressive source. Don't just look at his actions (or inaction in this case), also pay attention to the circumstances around the time it happened, what was going on emotionally etc. that may give you more insight.

The Libra Mercury is also the ruler of his 6th house of daily habits. He also may have a problem with decision making. So it looks like a combo overall of different factors.

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posted December 10, 2015 06:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Venus is the most common culprit that I run across. His is conj Sun in Virgo and conj Mercury in Libra (Venus sign). Since his is in the 8th with Pluto conj Moon too it may be a bit of a concealed power trip for him. I'm sure the Moon conj Uranus does not want to run on anyone else's time table either. All the planets in the 8th will render him quite Scorpionic in his ways, and they will not be rushed.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the procrastination comes from a passive aggressive source. Don't just look at his actions (or inaction in this case), also pay attention to the circumstances around the time it happened, what was going on emotionally etc. that may give you more insight.

The Libra Mercury is also the ruler of his 6th house of daily habits. He also may have a problem with decision making. So it looks like a combo overall of different factors.

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I have moon conjunct pluto in the 8th and i could kinda see his side of things. Its not coming from a place of power tripping, we don't like people trying to boss us around and order us around, it's about being determined to hold onto our own personal autonomy, we really don't care about trying to control you. We're not really pushovers, if you scream at us or nag (or try to use coercion or any other negative means) us to do something we don't want to do (or aren't ready to do yet) we'll pretty much ignore you and do what we want to do, in our own way, in our own time.

posted December 12, 2015 04:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Cappi112:
For me, procrastination always has to do with anxiety. Putting off things that give me stress because I'm scared I will mess them up if not in the perfect mindset - perfectionism.

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Yes. This. Exactly.