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Topic: Why am I Detached in Love?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 08:02 AM
My mother who is a therapist as most of you know,made me doubt my sanity,big time. I came to the erroneous conclusion I was a sociopath However,after learning about them I know 1000% I am not. However,when other woman were going ga ga over boys,I never was. I loved that fact about myself. I just figured I had a good sense of self and good confidence. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 08:04 AM
I had a sense of being whole in myself,not needing to be COMPLETED by a man. This felt good to me,not bad. It felt very ,very good in fact. I had many men pursue me.If a man did not like me,I let it go. I have never chased a man.------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 08:07 AM
I got screwed up in doubting myself from my mother calling me neurotic all the time. This combined with my ability to detach made me come to the conclusion I was a sociopath. Now that I know I am nothing close to a sociopath I ask this question. I could NOT be a sociopath. I am VERY sensitive to not hurting others.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 08:12 AM
This is what I think makes me detached.Tell me what you think Unaspected Gemini Venus 90% of planets are interpersonal/transpersonal Saturn conjuncts the ASC.This is the only personal planet. Venus in 7th house Sun,Merc and Moon in 8th house Uranus, Jupiter and Mars in 9th house Neptune in 12th house Strong Gemini---Sun,Merc and Venus Scorpio ASC,Pluto conjunct the MC 8th house stellium Earth Void The Scorpio makes you hidden and careful with outward expression,not detached per se I just added this to round out my question Cancer moon and Mars If I do attach,I attach with my heart and soul. With a man this has happened once when my Venus had an exact trine with Pluto and exact opposition with Neptune. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 08:35 AM
Any thoughts would be appreciated.Thank you!IP: Logged |
oceaneyes9 Knowflake Posts: 138 From: missouri Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 12, 2011 09:32 AM
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Chaos Knowflake Posts: 389 From: Serbia Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 09:33 AM
Unaspected Venus, even if you're hopelessly in love, you don't know the proper way to express that love...And 8th house stellium can have trust issues...IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 09:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by oceaneyes9: Okay well of that list i would argue with alot of them as far as making you detached.The heavy gemini would definetly make it easy for you not attached. I have saturn on my asc as well ( sucks doesnt it ) but i dont feel like it makes you actually detached it makes you appear that way, or remote and unaffectable. Makes it easy for people to judge you as detached. The scorpio would make you very attached instead of detached but its a very underground emotional investment that doesnt show itself to anyone else but you until your sure and completely comfortable. The 8th house i feel like would make you very attached as well especially with the venus in the 7th - house of relationships. Speaking as someone with an 8th house stellium i know it makes me unable to be detached where as the rest of my chart would suggest it would be a tendency. hope that helped. for detachment id look at aquarius, uranus, saturn, air signs.
Thank you.That helped ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 09:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by Chaos: Unaspected Venus, even if you're hopelessly in love, you don't know the proper way to express that love...And 8th house stellium can have trust issues...
I don't agree about NOT being able to express love.I can. I have loved a few people very deeply and can show them my love back in a good way. Thank you for your post though Chaos I appreciate anyone who takes the time to post!
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Chaos Knowflake Posts: 389 From: Serbia Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 09:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I don't agree about NOT being able to express love.I can. I have loved a few people very deeply and can show them my love back in a good way. Thank you for your post though Chaos I appreciate anyone who takes the time to post!
You're the one with Cancer Mars, right? They express care and motherly love for someone, rather than romantic love...I know a few Cancer Mars people, dear people they are, lovable & loving, but they have no luck in love, cause they mother their partners too much, and then partners just run away from them...it's weird...
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 09:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Chaos: You're the one with Cancer Mars, right? They express care and motherly love for someone, rather than romantic love...I know a few Cancer Mars people, dear people they are, lovable & loving, but they have no luck in love, cause they mother their partners too much, and then partners just run away from them...it's weird...
I am Cancer moon and Mars.I have total faith I CAN love cuz I have and do. That is really not my issue.However, please continue commenting
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Chaos Knowflake Posts: 389 From: Serbia Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 10:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I am Cancer moon and Mars.I have total faith I CAN love cuz I have and do. That is really not my issue.However, please continue commenting
I hope that the first sentence that mysteriously disappeared was all sarcasm, though internet sarcasm doesn't always work, I must warn you... I never denied your actual love in my reply, though, do read that again. Never stop having faith, dear, faith is what keeps people alive, right? It's not knowledge and facing the facts, that's all bulls**t, really... If that's not your issue, I've got the issue wrong then and I apologise deeply, so should I continue commenting? No, I don't think so... IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 10:06 AM
Baby!------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 10:20 AM
Don't let that mini "discussion" deter anyone from responding ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 5903 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 12, 2011 10:40 AM
I used to be the same way - but you haven't been that way with everyone, right?My mother told me that she used to admire that about me. I liked it, too - crushes started out feeling nice, but were too much of a distraction, and the cause of much frustration if not reciprocated. I seemed to be blind to guys who liked me, though. :/ I'm not detached in love, there just aren't that many guys who cause my heart to flutter. If anything, I have to watch my boundaries, because I attach pretty easily. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 10:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I used to be the same way - but you haven't been that way with everyone, right?My mother told me that she used to admire that about me. I liked it, too - crushes started out feeling nice, but were too much of a distraction, and the cause of much frustration if not reciprocated. I seemed to be blind to guys who liked me, though. :/ I'm not detached in love, there just aren't that many guys who cause my heart to flutter. If anything, I have to watch my boundaries, because I attach pretty easily.
Well I adored my Grandmother.If I even TALK about her now, I cry. I love people in my life right now. I suppose ,with that being said you might ask why I am asking the question--right? ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 11:32 AM
Maybe I am normal and don't know it.Please keep commenting though.Maybe not ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 5903 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 12, 2011 11:55 AM
Well, I liked boys, most just didn't impress me - especially anyone who seemed to not take a girls' feelings seriously, and those who would go through them like people do their money at a casino.I also hated that song Wishin' and Hopin' - things like that. Forget who you are, and you will land yourself a man, and get to feed him and do his laundry... he won't have married you, but someone who changed herself just so she might not be *gasp* - single. I resented the idea that the happiest day of my life - my supposed wedding day - had been predetermined for me by many people, because I was a girl. I'd seen enough nastiness where men and women were concerned (violence, true sociopathy, been the recipient of violence, had a cousin who was talked into sex before she was ready... and it goes on), that I knew it wasn't going to solve all of my problems, and could easily create more. A part of me wants it very much, and always has done, but not at the expense of who I am, and what I want and need. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 12:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: Well, I liked boys, most just didn't impress me - especially anyone who seemed to not take a girls' feelings seriously, and those who would go through them like people do their money at a casino.I also hated that song Wishin' and Hopin' - things like that. Forget who you are, and you will land yourself a man, and get to feed him and do his laundry... he won't have married you, but someone who changed herself just so she might not be *gasp* - single. I resented the idea that the happiest day of my life - my supposed wedding day - had been predetermined for me by many people, because I was a girl. I'd seen enough nastiness where men and women were concerned (violence, true sociopathy, been the recipient of violence, had a cousin who was talked into sex before she was ready... and it goes on), that I knew it wasn't going to solve all of my problems, and could easily create more. A part of me wants it very much, and always has done, but not at the expense of who I am, and what I want and need.
Teasel ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
blugrey Knowflake Posts: 1005 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted June 13, 2011 04:58 AM
I think there needs to be a balance - could simply be my moon in the 7th.I think being too detached is just as much of an issue as being too attached. I think both partners need to have their own things going on and not constantly try to create emotional situations. I don't think the "love" shown on tv where people fight and make up or people chase one another down is what love is about. It's rather pathetic really. That said, I must say, that sometimes we can't really help how we feel about someone. In that situation many people would probably chase them or try to keep them by their side - I think that this is not love, but rather possessiveness or fear of being alone - which I totally agree with you is not the right path to choose. I don't, however, find it a horribly bad thing to recognize being in love with someone who might not return the feelings - as long as it doesn't consume you or keep you from living your life to the fullest. That said, I mean, if you have no issues showing your love effectively to your partner, I don't see what the issue is. Your mom probably has a very different love "language" than you - people don't show love in the same ways and they can understand it just the same. It all depends. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 13, 2011 09:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by blugrey: I think there needs to be a balance - could simply be my moon in the 7th.I think being too detached is just as much of an issue as being too attached. I think both partners need to have their own things going on and not constantly try to create emotional situations. I don't think the "love" shown on tv where people fight and make up or people chase one another down is what love is about. It's rather pathetic really. That said, I must say, that sometimes we can't really help how we feel about someone. In that situation many people would probably chase them or try to keep them by their side - I think that this is not love, but rather possessiveness or fear of being alone - which I totally agree with you is not the right path to choose. I don't, however, find it a horribly bad thing to recognize being in love with someone who might not return the feelings - as long as it doesn't consume you or keep you from living your life to the fullest. That said, I mean, if you have no issues showing your love effectively to your partner, I don't see what the issue is. Your mom probably has a very different love "language" than you - people don't show love in the same ways and they can understand it just the same. It all depends.
Yes Blugray Maybe I was normal this whole time.I have a FUNNY feeling I was. That is like finding out your sister is your mother ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 2400 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted June 14, 2011 11:34 PM
I believe I'm generally quite detached too. I mean I've loved only once and it was extremely! Intense, but generally I'm good at staying objective and weighing up options and possibilities before leaping in =)I'm a virgo sun and I have moon, venus n merc in libra (7th house) Deep down inside I'm much too sensitive for my own good =( (Moon square neptune, chiron square moon and venus + moon tightly conjunct venus makes me soft but with a tough exterior cos of my aries rising). IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 6543 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted June 15, 2011 12:02 AM
Im flaky as heck! I dont get too feely.. My daughter asked me the other day.. "Mom do you ever cry?" I said I dont have time to cry.. I just accept things, and keep moving forward... Crying doesnt solve any thing.. You have to get your butt in gear and move forward... IP: Logged |
sharon_1977 Knowflake Posts: 112 From: Nothern ireland Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 15, 2011 02:11 PM
Hi Ami Anne I think with all the scorpio themes in your chart i.e. scorpio ascendant pluto (ruler of scorpio) at the MC and the 8th house planets, can make you detach very easily where emotions are concerned. Scorpio, I have heard called, is the amputation sign of the sodiac. You would be able to suss out people very quickly and if they don't mesure up then you would be able to cut them out emotionally right away, no games with you. I think it would be a very good defence for the possibility of being hurt of taken for granted. I have an 8th house placement and this is how I work emotionally. Just my 2 cents worth. Sharon_1977 IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50924 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 15, 2011 02:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by sharon_1977: Hi Ami Anne I think with all the scorpio themes in your chart i.e. scorpio ascendant pluto (ruler of scorpio) at the MC and the 8th house planets, can make you detach very easily where emotions are concerned. Scorpio, I have heard called, is the amputation sign of the sodiac. You would be able to suss out people very quickly and if they don't mesure up then you would be able to cut them out emotionally right away, no games with you. I think it would be a very good defence for the possibility of being hurt of taken for granted. I have an 8th house placement and this is how I work emotionally. Just my 2 cents worth. Sharon_1977
Sharon THANK YOU SO MUCH That is my answer Do you know when the answer hits you,you know deep inside. Thank you so very much Sharon ! ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |