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Topic: Mars conjunct Venus---an Uber Aries Venus?
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Ami Anne
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posted June 12, 2011 02:25 PM
  
I am doing a chart with this aspect.I can't get a feel for it.
Is it fair to say it is an uber Aries Venus  ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted June 12, 2011 02:53 PM
I am told this makes an aggressive Venus, a powerful Venus,not one to sit on the sidelines and be Venusian which IS to be receptive not aggressive.
Please give your experiences with this Venus.
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Benedict Moon*
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posted June 12, 2011 03:29 PM
From my observations, It depends on the sign the conjunction falls in. If you happen to find it in Aries or Scorpio, then it would be fair to say that Mars is stronger (uber Aries Venus in Aries, like in your example). If the conjunction falls in Libra or Taurus, Mars is under the direction of Venus instead. In any of the other signs, it depends on the person. *I would take into account dignities, exaltations, detriments, falls, feminine and masculine signs to assess which one takes the lead or if they both cooperate together.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 12, 2011 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
From my observations, It depends on the sign the conjunction falls in. If you happen to find it in Aries or Scorpio, then it would be fair to say that Mars is stronger (uber Aries Venus in Aries, like in your example). If the conjunction falls in Libra or Taurus, Mars is under the direction of Venus instead. In any of the other signs, it depends on the person.
Thank you BM
Brilliant point !
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maira
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posted June 12, 2011 06:06 PM
I've been meaning to ask the sign - what Benedict Moon said covers it. You should also look at the dignities of the planets by house (a 12th house Mars would be weaker for instance).This is the hardest part, I haven't gotten to it yet. I only succeeded two or three times - putting all the pieces pf the puzzle together. Like you, I rely on intuition, but technically, in this case, you should continue with the other aspects this conjunction makes and blend it in with the luminaries and ascendant. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 12, 2011 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by maira:
I've been meaning to ask the sign - what Benedict Moon said covers it. You should also look at the dignities of the planets by house (a 12th house Mars would be weaker for instance).This is the hardest part, I haven't gotten to it yet. I only succeeded two or three times - putting all the pieces pf the puzzle together. Like you, I rely on intuition, but technically, in this case, you should continue with the other aspects this conjunction makes and blend it in with the luminaries and ascendant.
Yes good point!
Thank you, Maira ------------------
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Betty Boop
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posted June 12, 2011 07:22 PM
It's much easier, with this aspect. I know both Pisces and Taurus Suns with this placement (male and female).Guys are very confident with the Aries Mars.. so there are no problems in terms of 'who is chasing who'... but they are also more gentlemanly and sweet because of the Venusian influence.
It's a really good combination... It's similar to a Libra Mars but has more punch. The women are also very confident... but as opposed to women who have Venus in Aries on its own - They don't really have issues in love. They attract exactly the sort of man they need. They are very inwardly happy in terms of dating/sex. Both the men and women have a love of life, of their friends of other people.. They are very balanced and naturally happy. They are extremely healthy and fit as well. (Although there was a girl on LL who said she was not that into fitness).
But the ones I know have perfect bodies (literally). IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted June 12, 2011 07:24 PM
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Is it fair to say it is an uber Aries Venus
No. Actually. it's an uber Aries Mars (with a touch of Venusian diplomacy) .. Because Aries Mars is such a strong placement - it just takes over. Put it this way.. if I compare the people with Venus/Mars conjunct in Aries.. with people who have Mars in Aries on its own -- they are quite similar! However... if I compare the people with Venus/Mars.. with those who have Venus on its own in Aries ---- there are some big differences there. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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posted June 12, 2011 07:31 PM
But thats what makes it a SUPER Aries Venus to begin with...a martian venus that is easily under the direction of the Aries Mars. Its not super in the dignified sense, but the qualities are doubled....almost like there is nothing Venusian about it. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted June 12, 2011 07:46 PM
Benedict, I just find them the same as aries Mars people…with added diplomacy from Venus.It’s a bit like an Aries Mars… who has had a huge prep talk from a Libra Mars. Im not thinking about it in terms of what makes sense astrologically --- just what I personally felt around these people. It might be super in some ways lol.
But what Ami has picked up on in Aries Venus.. and I do agree with her, is that Aries Venus men desire to be chased… while Aries Venus women end up being the ones chasing – during dating (and they are not always happy in this position). The difference is, when the person has Venus/Mars conjunct in Aries they are happy either way, because they are very confident. The man with the placement is inclined to chase… so he will chase, in the beginning phases… However, if he happens to meet a woman who is very assertive – He can swap and let her be the aggressor. It wouldn’t be a put off, as it might be for “some” men.
It’s the same with the woman… She can be either the chaser or the chased, and is really HAPPY in both positions. Basically, romance goes very well for them (as far as I've seen anyway) I’m mentioning this because when Ami says “uber aries venus”… and you are saying “super aries venus” – Ami might think that the dating issues which Aries Venus usually has - are accentuated. But it’s actually the opposite! IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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posted June 12, 2011 07:54 PM
But the dating issues Aries Venus has are accentuated with this conjunction...atleast from what I've seen. And by the way, that is pretty much what I'm going by here, plus my own intuition. I knew two people who had this conjunction in Aries and they were head over heels for eachother. They were both also pussyfooting around eachother for various reasons, and its been like the neverendingstory that I would love to just die ever since. She pines for the day he shows his softer-vulnerable side to her (ie. his VENUS), and Lord knows what he really wants from her. Actually, they both share the same birthdate...what are the odds?
*edit* I guess I should mention that there's a Neptune Square involved and the guy's conjuntion falls in the 12th (though it still seems like an Aries conjunction to me).
The way its felt to me is this: if its in a Mars ruled sign, its superassertive and more Spartan-like, little romance in the true Venusian sense. If its in a Venusian, they're not exactly passive, but they aren't likely to get into confrontrations unless you REALLY provoke them. One almost thrives on conflict and the other one prefers peace FIRST. It's not exactly good or bad, but problems can arise for either. Again, this is just what I've experienced with this people. IP: Logged |
northernlad
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posted June 12, 2011 09:16 PM
I know someone with Mars conj Venus exact at 29 degrees Pisces. I thought that if something was at 29 degrees it was supposed to take on a bit of the next sign, but he's not as direct as one would expect, especially given his Aries ASC. He's direct with saying what's on his mind, but not when it comes to conflicts in his relationship. He's actually very passive when it comes to communicating with his partner. Might be his Gem moon not liking the conflict, I suppose.IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen
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posted June 12, 2011 11:15 PM
I HAVE MARS CONJUNCT VENUS IN GEMINI.IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted June 12, 2011 11:25 PM
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Actually, they both share the same birthdate...what are the odds?
Oh wowwww That's so interesting. I've never met someone to end up in a romantic relationship with another born on the exact same day.
Are they *very* similar people?
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the dating issues Aries Venus has are accentuated with this conjunction
Well my bunch are really happy lol
Seldom complain about anything in romance. Always know what they want - and generally get what they want. The girl is my best friend: Pisces Sun/Taurus Moon -- Her birthdate is: 25/02/1985... exact conjunction at 17' Aries. The Taurus guy who I've dated is: Taurus/Aqua Moon - His birthdate is: 11/05/1977.. Again very close conjunction.. Venus @ 11 Aries and Mars @ 10 Aries. They are the people (w. this conj) who I know best and see like every second day ^ lol Then there is a girl who I'm kind of friends with, but I don't see her as much. She is Aqua Sun, 04/02/1985.. She has an exact conj at 1' deg Aries. She's actually married and loves the guy so she seems happy as well. There was a Pisces guy as well, but I can't remember when he was born of the top of my head. I'll look it up on FB.
He's probably around my best friends birthday.
I feel comfortable around these people, because I have the Venus/Mars trine.. and I like that they have a positive view of relationships.. They don't go on about "how crappy the world is" and watch stuff like "he's not that into you".. They look on the bright side and attract positivity.
Nothing much gets them down. I'm impressed by their optimism and confidence level.
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Nine
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posted June 12, 2011 11:41 PM
I once ran into a cluster of this aspect. A Leo with the conjunction in Virgo, only the most assertive women got anywhere with him. He has moon in Scorpio. A Taurus with the conjunction in Cancer. Same thing, a strong woman who brings to home the bacon. He and his wife met on the job where she was manager and he a part-time associate. He has moon in Gemini. A Gemini with the conjunction in Taurus. He has issues, but fear of rejection stops him from open pursuit. In the few instances when he actively pursued someone fate conspired & efforts backfired. Success in relationships has come by projecting Mars; stand in a corner look pretty & do the Venus thing. He has moon in Virgo. A Scorpio with the conjunction in Scorpio. While his women weren't the domineering types, his longest relationships were with those who took care & babied him financially. He has moon in Libra. A Taurus with the conjunction in Aries. I didn't really know them intimately, but his wife brought home the bigger paycheck. He has moon in Sagittarius. As to whether Mars conjunct Venus is akin to Venus in Aries...possible, but the flirting styles & tastes may be different. IP: Logged |
Anicia
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posted June 13, 2011 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by Nine:A Leo with the conjunction in Virgo, only the most assertive women got anywhere with him. He has moon in Scorpio [/B]
I'm a Leo, with Venus/Mars conjunct in Virgo (conj. ASC). Aquarius Moon. Yeah, "assertive" usually does it for me too. Not over the top pushy, but a guy that lets me know where he stands.A little mach wont hurt either..haha I can be very detached in general, but when I'm sure (relationship/love wise) nothing changes my mind. I go head first. lol Everything (the past) goes out the window, and I start again just as fierce as the first time. It throws me off so much, because it's the only situation where I have the tendency to NOT think things over. I guess that can be very Arian? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 13, 2011 03:44 AM
Thank you so much for the posts Betty, BM,Arnica,Nine NL ,Karka and Maira
I need to study them.There is a lot of info.I may need to come back and ask questions!------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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Benedict Moon*
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posted June 13, 2011 02:08 PM
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Oh wowwww That's so interesting. I've never met someone to end up in a romantic relationship with another born on the exact same day.
Are they *very* similar people?
In temperament, they're pretty similar, but not much of anything else IMO. She's idealistic, and he's a total playboy.
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Well my bunch are really happy lol
Seldom complain about anything in romance. Always know what they want - and generally get what they want.
From my experiences with these people, Mars/Venus conjunctions aren't totally ideal unless there's no detriments or afflictions to the planets. Even then, the person may just feel free to use the energy adversely (Hello, President Clinton!). Because honestly, my friend above is like the girls who question whether she should keep going in the same cycle or if she should move on. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted June 13, 2011 02:58 PM
I have this aspect. It isn't so much an aries like venus as much as it is desire coming strongly in contact with your love natire, receptiveness to beauty, and ability to give and receive love and kindness. It makes your sentimental love nature and receptiveness to all things harmonious and beautiful linked with strong desire. It makes you want to pursue that which you feel you love and think is beautiful very strongly. Think of it this way. It's like the desire and compulsion you feel when your mars conjuncts someone's venus---but instead offeeling that for one person you feel that way about life in general---especially beauty. IP: Logged |
maira
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posted June 13, 2011 03:11 PM
Also, like Tim would of said, take the keywords for each planet and blend them together.
Keywords for Mars: energy, aggressiveness, action, initiative, impulsiveness, adventurous, physical energy, courage, assertiveness and rash. Keywords for Venus: love, beauty, harmony, affection, appreciation, sensual, vanity, flirtatious, art, music and aesthetics. Then combined, it could manifest like assertive harmony, aggressive vanity (guilty as charged ), love (venus) for war(mars), rash flirtation, you name it. It really depends on the signs and the rest of the chart/puzzle. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted June 13, 2011 03:22 PM
Ah, you know Tim?He was on the astrologyweekly.com forums but I didn't know he was here? His screen name is WilsonTC no?
A virgo with lots of saturn in his chart. Are we talking about the same Tim?  . I love that guy. He helped me a lot when I was struggling with his practical approaches to explaining aspects. IP: Logged |
maira
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posted June 13, 2011 03:27 PM
He was here too, it's the same guy IP: Logged |
maira
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posted June 13, 2011 03:29 PM
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009432.html Later edit: I found his website http://wilsontc.stormloader.com/ It has helped me a lot too! Sorry for derailing Ami, you know me and my Pisces Mercury  IP: Logged |
maira
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posted June 13, 2011 03:31 PM
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Ami Anne
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posted June 13, 2011 03:41 PM
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