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DeeMonroe
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From: Oakland, CA, USA
Registered: Jun 2011

posted June 12, 2011 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeeMonroe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey! Names Dee, a new member as of a few seconds ago. I'm so glad that my posting privileges have been activated because I've been having this problem lately and wanted others opinions on it or see if anyone has had a similar situation. I never really understood Astrology that much until I did my chart recently and found out it was so much more to it. It made me understand my personality a little bit more.

My problem is that me and my mom always bump heads! It's been happening more often now. Don't get me wrong, I love my mother dearly, she's someone I have the highest respect for and nothing will ever change that but these intense arguments are getting out of hand. It's exhausting. I'm a Leo and she's an Aquarius. I know these two signs are the exact opposite of each other but I heard they get along with each other pretty well. It seems like me and my mom only get along when we discuss things that don't involve emotions or feelings. When we do, she's real quiet or she just completely blows me off. I find that very rude and insensitive. Oh and don't let me get emotional and start crying, she just looks at me with confusion and like I'm crazy, then blocks me out. That really bothers me. She says I'm emotionally dramatic and doesn't want to be bothered with it. I'll admit that I can be very dramatic but I honestly don't realize I am being overly dramatic. I'm very expressive with my emotions. My friends say I'm a typical Leo in & out so they understand how I get. With her it's different, she has no room for acceptance of how I am. She barely tries to understand. I notice that when it comes to her feelings, she approaches them in a strategy way instead of just going with how she feels. She can be very cold and detached sometimes but she is a nice caring person underneath it all.

Any advice on how to lessen the arguments? Anyone had a Leo and Aquarius friendship or relationship?

Here's my chart:

Rising - Scorpio
Sun - Leo
Moon - Aquarius
Mercury - Leo
Venus - Leo
Mars - Leo
Jupiter - Leo
Saturn - Aquarius
Uranus - Capricorn
Neptune - Capricorn
Pluto - Scorpio
N. Node - Capricorn
MC - Leo

I know it isn't a complete chart. Just wanted you guys to get a feel on my personality. I suck on posting links Lol.

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Randall
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posted June 12, 2011 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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Amphitrite
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posted June 13, 2011 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Dee

Welcome to LL. Why don't you make a chart on astro.com for you and your mum, because you tend to get more of a response with actual charts. Maybe post a natal for you and your mum, and a synastry.

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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted June 13, 2011 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Without having both of the charts it's impossible to be exact but I imagine with all that leo with some scorpio thrown in ....yep you are a bit on the dramatic side ( leo here with a scorp asc and aries moon).

Your mum can only respond in her own way....just like you respond in your own way. I did notice you have saturn in aquarius and wonder if that closely aspects your mum's sun? Saturn tends to stifle the affected planet and you may be unknowingly "stifling" or trying to control your mum's aquarian response. You also have your moon in aqua...very fitting as it describes the mothering received, is this moon close to your saturn?

The only planets you have that aren't fixed are in the sign of capricorn...a sign that is not known to be all that flexible.

You have a really strong chart, very willful, predominantly fixed and authoritive. Creativity should be quite high too and I imagine you can be very warm towards others.

Your moon/saturn may well be showing that you do find your mother to be cold and unresponsive (it's a common theme when these two planets are linked).

I think astrology may give you a lot of answers but it's unlikely to change her behaviour towards you. Maybe her way is to be detached and use strategy?

I have to stress that I don't think she's "right"....but you already noticed how she approaches her emotions and that it's different to you. Maybe she can't understand in the way you can, if you have a scorp asc then you probably do a lot of people watching...not everyone does.

You have a moon/sat in aquarius which indicates that you yourself can be detached and aloof when it suits you but you have a bucket load of leo to offset this....without seeing your chart I can't really say anymore.

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Jounia
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From: United Kingdom
Registered: May 2011

posted June 13, 2011 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jounia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the same problem with my mum - we REALLY clash. I'm Cancer Sun/Cappy Rising/Scorpio moon and she's Taurus Sun/Leo rising/Leo moon!

I may have to make a chart too......

Good luck!

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allouette
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posted June 13, 2011 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow! this is the most "fixed element" chart I've ever seen!
you have strong opinions don't you and you like to stick to them. you can be perceived as very stubborn because of this. your mom, an aqua herself, will not be very willing to compromise.
just try to accept and love her for who she is, it doesn't matter if she is right or wrong.
and try to surround yourself with people that have planets in mutable & cardinal signs, this will make your life easier. you will always struggle with fixed people, because you're 90% fixed.

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woah cakes
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posted June 13, 2011 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting, allouette. i'm fairly fixed myself (sun, moon, mercury, mars, jupiter, chiron and uranus) and i tend to find i actually gravitate toward other fixed people. not saying that's the best idea, but there is something more 'relateable' about them to me. fixity is 'maintainance' and it's just as much about loyalty as it is stubbornness. even, simple presence. probably because i'm fixed i don't really 'get' hypermutables (too changeable!) and supercardinals freak me out by wanting me to adapt to their plans haha, guess that makes me ultrastubborn. i love them, but i don't get them and i guess that makes me uncomfortable by definition of fixity; we need that stability, more or less.

dee, what's your mom's moon sign? you're describing a typical aquarian mindset. i'm an aqua but i'm heavily neptune influenced and my moon is 4th house taurus so that brings me in closer contact with my feelings. however my 'default' especially when confronted with heavy emotion is to step back from it, gague it, and slowly mentally process it from a safe distance. it's been suggested that aquarians are emotionally detached as a way of having had to deal with emotional abuse. i know that is true in my case but i'm sure it's not the case for all. think about it: we are the last sign before pisces. pisces which feels EVERYTHING to the point the self is almost irrelevant. we DO feel, oh we do, but we want to do the right thing by these feelings and not 'just' feel them for themselves. it has to fit into the grand scheme of what is right and necessary and, yes, even what will most benefit humanity (wrap your head around that one). we have very intricate principles and convictions and emotions fit into our conceptual frameworks in particular ways but we cannot let them cloud the big picture. it does not mean we don't care or don't feel, though. we just can't be overwhelmed by emotions since when we are, it overshadows what we NEED to think to get on with trying to make the world a better place, to whichever small degree we are able to do so.

then again i've known some coldass aquas who don't give a crap about anyone but themselves. not many. but they've been males.

you should post your synastry chart with your mom!

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Aya_and_baby
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Registered: Apr 2009

posted June 13, 2011 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Emmmm... not sure how well you are aquainted with the newest "planets" (or asteroids) in Astrology, but based on what I've noticed yesterday thanks to one of Ami's threads is that when you always butt heads with someone, you might want to look at Eris - at least if the headbutting explodes into fighting.

Two people that I have experienced this with, one actually being my mother, had their Jupiter conjunct my Eris. You might want to check for yourself where exactly your Eris is, but since it moves very slowly, you can expect it to be roughly between 13° and 25° Aries.


You could always check to see if your mother has anything around that area in her chart?


Just a suggestion

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