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VioletFlyer
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posted June 12, 2011 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletFlyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, a lot of us are dealing with this right now huh? And it is pretty diabolical!!

Saturn in my 8th (only since June 11 - was retrograde in my 7th for a while...)

My marriage of 6 months has imploded and is unlikely to recover. I met someone else (so did not need that added layer of confusion rihgt now), I have been overwhelemed with seeing all the things I do in my relationships that have GOT to change if I want to be more fulfilled in life...

It is crazy times.

So go on - post your SR Libra woes here. Let's group hug!!

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Amphitrite
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posted June 13, 2011 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So Saturn went direct just a few hours ago, and I for one am thinking this is a very good thing.

I have natal Saturn at 11 degrees libra, so I get just one more hit to wrap up this Saturn return. It's all happening in my second house, and Saturn rules my sixth and seventh house. I have certainly felt every last bit of this and I have been tryig to step up to the challenges. Most of the time it's not alot of fun, but I'm thinking it's gotta get better from now. Saturn grinded over my moon then my sun then natal Saturn, its been crap. But I'm sure it's looking up now

Saturn will next hit my natal Jupiter at 16 degrees libra, anyone experienced this before?

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VioletFlyer
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posted June 13, 2011 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletFlyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ouch Amphitrite- but glad to hear you are pulling through!!!

Saturn just moved into my 8th - where I have Pluto, Jupiter, Sun, Mercury and Saturn. Oh, lucky me (not!). All of those except sun are in Libra (do not know what degree(s) though) and so hey, we'll have to compare notes on that Jupiter thing Amphitrite!

Saturn doesn't have it's last "jibe" at Pluto until mid 2012 for me. Joy... It rides on and off if it multiple times from Nov- mid 2012.

But I think that between now and November is when the action is really going to get quite hot for me.

Again, GREAT that you've been able tomake it work for you and pull through strong!

Was there any one thing that you felt helped you the most???

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Amphitrite
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posted June 13, 2011 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your kind words VioletFlyer, I see you're from Radelaide haha My hometown, hope u guys r having a nice night too bad the long weekends over hey.

I'm really sorry to hear that things are so crazy for you at the moment. Sometime it all just feels like a bad ride that you can't get off of. Relationships can be difficult to work out and a challenge for anyone nevermind about those with libra stelliums. But keep on keeping on.

I'm not sure what got me through really. I often just wanted to run away with all that went on since 2009. I know I shut myself off quite a bit, I'm not sure if that helped or hindered but I felt it was the right thing to do. Do you know how far Saturn is from conjuncting your natal Saturn?

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VioletFlyer
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posted June 13, 2011 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletFlyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! Yep moved to Adelaide in 2006 from the USA - a big part of my problem i think!!

According to the astrologer I consulted, it hit my natal saturn on June 11- but maybe I am remembering wrong??

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Amphitrite
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posted June 13, 2011 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you would like to post ur details I can post a chart for u so you can know for sure?

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VioletFlyer
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posted June 13, 2011 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletFlyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh that is very kind of you. November 1, 1981
Newport news, virginia usa
2:02 pm

But I'm in adelaide now so that might change things slightly?

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pepper
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posted June 13, 2011 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pepper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just broke up with my bf... 2hours 32mins ago. I knew long ago it wldn't work but I refuse to let go until he told me that we are 'friends'. Hell with friends... its either love or nothing. I don't believe in this friends thingy. I deleted him off my contacts n blocked him from msn. If we aren't lovers, we are strangers. I won't put myself in the position of being hurt.

Talk about coincidences... Transisting Saturn exact on my mars in my first house n he has venus, jupiter, pluto n saturn in libra..

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Lonake
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posted June 13, 2011 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm with someone who's dead set on marrying me (v.stubborn, he has all personal planets in fixed signs) and I'm saying no. It is hard because I want the relationship to continue but I don't want to be married. He keeps wanting to have the 'marriage' convo and I want at times to break up since he keeps bringing it up. He said 'I love you' first, he's the one who says he fell in love with me at first sight, (these are things he keeps bringing up) but I feel so burdened by his feelings for me. It's like this weight I have to carry, and I wish he wouldn't tell me he loves me every day because I don't need to hear it because he shows it all the time. I find it funny that I'm with someone who is so completely traditional (1950s thinking here) in relationship matters in my Saturn return year.

Saturn in Libra

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Saraintheski
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posted June 13, 2011 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saraintheski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My saturn just went into the 8th house , I have sun(scorpio) , pluto (scorpio) , mercury (scorpio) , and venus and jupiter in libra ! I guess it is affecting my relationships kind of up and down and we already have his mars squaring my saturn and my own mars squaring my saturn and his mars squaring his own saturn! lol

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VioletFlyer
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posted June 13, 2011 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletFlyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How are you doing Pepper? It's never easy to break up - even when you know it's right... how are you feeling today?

Lonake - I can relate to this in some ways - although I tend to be more of the "fixed" person, I still require independence and fluidity in relationships. So being tied down physically or emotionally makes me freak out. My husband has a Pisces moon and I have Mars in Virgo - which he loves, but it also makes him feel quite "hurt" by that love a lot of the time. Which makes him a bit clingy -which is a huge part of the problem. I gotta be free dude!! He pushed for marraige and I went with it - thinking that the "security" of it would be an interesting change for me. I knew I shouldn't have...now I regret it big time... Hang in there and follow your instincts!!

Saraintheski- I'm right there with ya. Saturn just went into 8th (where my natal saturn is) and I'm a sun scorp with mercury, jupiter, pluto and saturn all in Libra. And all 5 of these are in my 8th! Egads let's keep in touch! How are you holding up? I am an Aqua rising with Uranus a really powerful influence in my life - so I actually felt kinda better when Saturn was retrograde in my 7th. Now I just feel like someone strapped cement blocks to my feet!!

Group Hug!!!

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scrappydog
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posted June 14, 2011 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
saturn in libra in the 6th, no health problems, a little depressed, but its squaring my moon right now also,idk

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VioletFlyer
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posted June 14, 2011 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletFlyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Scrappydog...sorry to hear about your depression. Hope you are keeping good perspective. I've been feeling depression creeping in since the weekend. I was actually doing better while Saturn was retro. It was emotionally intense, but not "depressing". Now..ugh, i'm just left to deal with the impact of choices made while S was retro.

But, life is always changing and so "this too shall pass" as they say!

Anything in particular got you down?

Anyone else finding that $$$ is just not flowing during this time either? Like there is enough to get by...but it's not a "time of plenty" either...

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pepper
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posted June 14, 2011 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pepper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx Violet... I'm ok.. Sad, didn't sleep very well last night but falling out of love is not the most tramatic experience in life. A sense of pity but life goes on. No regrets but its time to move on from unfulfilling rship.

If i remember correctly, when Saturn was in Virgo a few years back, I was really depressed n crying senselessly for no obvious reason. And I was really at the poorest stage of my life with everything not going according to plans n luck seems to be opposing me in everything i do until I took the courage to make a change in my beliefs for past ten years. After i took the step to change n got back on another track, Saturn came into Libra. I had natal jupiter n saturn in Virgo (exact square my venus) in 12th house. Til now I have no idea why i lost control emotionally. All I remembe is that toliets/bathrooms are really good places to cry in. I seriously think a bathroom shld be as big as bathrooms if it is to ever be a place of retreat whenever one needs to.. arrr... i'm rambling nonesense now. :P

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maira
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posted June 14, 2011 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Same experience with bathrooms, Saturn returned in my 12th a year ago. I'm sorry you are going through this, remember that it shall pass

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pepper
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posted June 14, 2011 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pepper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx Maira, yeah, Saturn return in 12th is the most terrifying stage in my life.. but it forces me to make drastic changes that slaps me out of my core belief system but very necessary stage in life.. I wouldn't trade that experience for anything. I'm better than ever before n life will only become better. You're right, its just a phase.

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VioletFlyer
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posted June 14, 2011 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletFlyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pepper, what about it is terrifying? Are you finding that you have good support around you or that you are facing most of it on your own?

Hope you are OK!

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Stellar
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posted June 15, 2011 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Needing to do a bit of research and find out where saturn is currently affecting my chart, but I can feel it causing my life to spin out of control. I too am in a marriage that is dissolving because I am beginning to realize I am rather "relationship challenged". Been together for seven years...and this is gonna a sight to see. I have Saturn in Libra in the 12th, as well as a Libra asc and my Merc, Jupiter, Pluto all in the first house making happy little conjuntions to eachother. I know this means a stellium but I am still trying to grasp what exactly that means itself. I knew this saturn return was gonna be trouble when I learned about it coming...just never thought it would end up like this! And I also think I was doing better with it retro...now that its direct its like I have to snap back and face realtiy again, gawd I hate that Just wanted to get in on the group hug lol! Glad to hear I am not the only one suffering these woes!

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pepper
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posted June 15, 2011 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pepper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VioletFlyer:
Pepper, what about it is terrifying? Are you finding that you have good support around you or that you are facing most of it on your own?


Hi Violet... terrifying period in the sense that I felt alone in this whole world and that everything I believe in no longer applies and that no matter what i do things don't go my way... i had several betrayals from friends, was really poor cos I refuse help from my family... Darkest period is when I drank a cup of coffee for the entire day's food supply for one week, force myself to continue the old path.. always having dizzy cos not enough food.. finally fainted out of hunger. Lol.. yeah, pretty dramatic. It sounds bad but its over. I took the change.. I guess I was too stubborn and drastic extreme conditions are necessary to force my stubborn nature to change. :P I'm happy now, its all over.

Hope you get through your saturn return. It might be harsh and bad but I believe you will come out of it a stronger wiser person!!

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VioletFlyer
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posted June 15, 2011 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletFlyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stellar (((hugs)))

It will all come right in the end I am sure. It has to, right? Hey this is what I tell myself!! Together about 6 years and starting in April it all went haywire in a big way - mostly because I started to see things about myself I had been ignoring before. Sounds like for you it has been similar??

I also wonder if I will ever be happy or "good" at "traditional" relationships... I start to think not...

Feel free to dish about your experiences. Do you think it is definitely over? Did you by any chance meet someone else who made you think twice about what kind of love it is you have (or don't have) with your current partner?

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VioletFlyer
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posted June 15, 2011 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletFlyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Pepper that sounds intense!!! But I can totally relate to the loneliness and not wanting to ask for help.

It seems like Saturn in your life can be a time of loneliness, poverty and isolation!!

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posted June 15, 2011 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was dating someone for three months last year and then BOOM, Saturn went into my 5th house and we broke up. Since then we continue you get back together and break up, because all I want to do is be alone. I'm more concerned about school and work (which I've never been before) and I just genuinely don't feel fun or creative.

I won't even have a rest from it, because Saturn will stay in my 5th house when it moves through Scorpio.

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posted June 16, 2011 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stellar:
Needing to do a bit of research and find out where saturn is currently affecting my chart, but I can feel it causing my life to spin out of control. I too am in a marriage that is dissolving because I am beginning to realize I am rather "relationship challenged". Been together for seven years...and this is gonna a sight to see. I have Saturn in Libra in the 12th, as well as a Libra asc and my Merc, Jupiter, Pluto all in the first house making happy little conjuntions to eachother. I know this means a stellium but I am still trying to grasp what exactly that means itself. I knew this saturn return was gonna be trouble when I learned about it coming...just never thought it would end up like this! And I also think I was doing better with it retro...now that its direct its like I have to snap back and face realtiy again, gawd I hate that Just wanted to get in on the group hug lol! Glad to hear I am not the only one suffering these woes!

Yea I feel kinda relationship challenged too. Like I'm supposed to want what society wants but I don't. I'm expected to act in a certain way re: relating but I don't. I actually think my way is better, go fig.

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posted June 16, 2011 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Violet ¡V

Things went haywire pretty much for me too in April. I was dealing with a lot of angst before but it was all still sitting patiently in the back of my mind until¡Kwell a guy who I had grown up with moved back into town and was hanging out with some mutual friends and we started talking¡Kand his Gemini ways just swept me off my feet. It has happen so quickly¡Ksuddenly I became quite clear on the fact that I was not living the life I wanted to live. Not because I want to be with mister Gemini so very bad its just because I realized that I am not being authentic, I crave my independence and freedom so badly. I also realize that my husband doesn¡¦t see me¡Khe doesn¡¦t understand me or listen to me. Hell I found out the other day that he doesn¡¦t even know how to spell my nameƒ¼

I don¡¦t know that I will ever be good at relationships either. I feel like I am broken¡Kmaybe to independent for love? I am not sure what it is but I have been hit with the realization that I made a big mistake. Mostly because I was scared, he was my security and I felt like it was what I had to do (for society, for family?) to marry him when I got pregnant. I know now I cant do this for the rest of my life. If I don¡¦t face these Saturn issues now I know they will be back in seven years with a vengeance.

Its kinda crazy how much I see similarities here lol. I see you were born in Newport news¡Kso was I! And we are close¡KI am November 8th. And my husband is also a Pisces moon and I am mars in virgo. And what you say about yalls relationship is so very similar to ours. Hehe okay I am done being creepy.

These eclipses are not helping matters either¡Khave you been feeling any challenges from them?

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Stellar
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posted June 16, 2011 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yea I feel kinda relationship challenged too. Like I'm supposed to want what society wants but I don't. I'm expected to act in a certain way re: relating but I don't. I actually think my way is better, go fig.

You got it right! I am starting to realize that our way is better too hehe! I have this venus in capricorn who I think wants to stick things out no matter what...so stubborn that it takes a while to wake up to the fact its just not meant to be.

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