posted June 20, 2011 02:44 PM            

My 9th house ruler (using Placidus) is in Sagittarius and it's placed in the 5th, my 7th house ruler is also in Sagittarius in the 5th, the dispositor of my Sun is in Sagittarius in the 5th, and I've traveled abroad for pleasure and love more than a few times, I also have Jupiter in an angular house.

A lady I knew who was obsessed with foreign travel and made it a priority to fill up her passport every 10 yrs before it expired had,
-empty 9th
-Sagittarius on the 2nd house cusp, 2nd house being personal resources and showing what we like to spend our money on and how, she had a lot of money and loved to travel, was also very lucky with gambling
-Venus in Sagittarius in the 2nd
-Jupiter is in the 3rd meaning she likes to have her stomping grounds in foreign locales, she thought a lot on planning her trips and would scour newspapers for travel deals, go to bookshops to buy travel guides all the time
-9th house ruler is the Moon in the 4th, she traveled a lot to Ireland where her mother's and father's family is from, so travel involves visiting family or feeling closer to home, she also had a lot of foreign exchange students stay with her in the U.S. when she wasn't traveling abroad
-ruler of the 9th trine ruler of the 11th, loved to travel in tour groups, she would often jet off and not tell anyone where she was going, only to notify her office that she was going on vacation, and no one knew when she'd be back: ruler of the 11th in the 12th, mercury in the 12th, ruler of the 5th in the 12th, ruler of the 8th in the 12th, neptune in the 12th, her h12 ruler is also that Venus in Sagittarius

Another person who has traveled extensively, also with a good size bank account,
-Sun, Moon, Venus, Mercury in the 9th
-h1, h2, h3, h4, h11, h12 rulers placed in the 9th
-nothing in Sagittarius
-9th house ruler is conj IC

(the above 2 traveled a lot together)

A well known person who's traveled a lot for his career and also gone on numerous spiritual retreats in foreign countries,
-nothing in Sadge or the 9th
-Sadge rules the 4th, Jupiter is in the 10th, conj Uranus
-Venus in Capricorn in the 4th rules both the house of personal resources 2nd and the house of travel 9th, it is opposed to Jupiter in the 10th which rules the IC
-Grand cross of Venus opp Jupiter/Uranus sq Mars opp Neptune in Cardinal signs

posted June 20, 2011 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by lechien:
i have a Sagittarius Stellium with AC and Sun there, Saturn in the 9th, and Jupiter is in the 7th opposing the Stellium. 9th house ruler is Sun.

i left the place i was born in and lived elsewhere since then. travelled a lot too but not enough. i wonder if it's Jupiter the chart ruler in the 7th, i seem to make myself at home wherever i land quickly. i don't feel foreign. i don't plan to go back to where i came from.

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posted June 20, 2011 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Can you post the chart or link to it?

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posted June 20, 2011 07:07 PM            

I go in and leave a short time later, I am actually in line longer at the border check point, then I am actually in Mexico..

I hate lines...

posted June 21, 2011 05:31 AM            

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Originally posted by lechien:
VenusDiSirius, how does the 3rd house Stellium contribute to it, you think??

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posted June 21, 2011 07:31 AM            

I have Saturn in Sagittarius trine my Sun.
Jupiter conj MC.

posted June 22, 2011 02:06 PM            

i dream about moving abroad even for couple years like being au pair

gosh, traveling is one of my life's salts

posted June 23, 2011 02:19 AM            

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Originally posted by lechien:
that's interesting, Lonake, do you think my Jupiter in Cancer has the same effect? that would solve the mystery of my life time. i literally felt foreign from the moment i was born (well, more or less). even when i didn't have the concept of foreign countries, i had this strong sense that i was supposed to be elsewhere. i came to a conclusion i was just born in a wrong country. i don't feel any association with the place i was born in. it's just another country to me.

eta: and that Jupiter is in opposition to my Sagittarius Sun.

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I feel like this too. I have jupiter in cancer (h9) trine my sun in pisces. But I have jupiter in mutual reception with my unaspected fire singleton sadge moon in the 2nd.

I feel so far from everything...

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Lechien,same thing here. I think it's combo of Moon conj Uranus,strong Mercury,and H3 Stellium.

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Yep. got a H3 stellium of ura,nep,mars,sat and venus in capricorn...

So I feel restricted by my surrounds. Australia is so uninspiring, boring and backwards...

posted June 23, 2011 06:04 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
i have uranus in sag 2nd as well. i'm travelling for work soon. i hate hate short trips. such a hassle. what am i gonna do with 1 week? shop? eat? buy some weird souvenir? people watch? ugh i can do that at home. i don't even like people watching. i want to completely immerse myself in a culture, become a local.

i also absolutely love my own culture. nothing wrong with not liking your own culture either. sometimes i feel that way too but not in recent years. i hate being patriotic though. people have been getting patriotic so now i think it's just a lame trend LOL!

my 9th house is intercepted or duplicated though. it's gemini in placidus, cancer in equal. my mc is kinda der at 29 degrees cancer.

when i'm like 60 i want to be ambassador lol! not the one that worked his way up but the one that is appointed coz they have money hehehe!

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Do you have any planets in 4th house? I don't have any. My 9th house is also intercepted but my feelings about other cultures never changed. I always wanted to move abroad and someday I will.

posted June 23, 2011 06:10 AM            

sand, it's not even that i don't like "my own culture" (that doesn't even sit well because i don't have the concept that it's "my own culture"). i actually quite love it, it's beautiful and so interesting, and many people want to visit there. but... yea that's exactly it, i feel the same as all these people who were not born there considering it an interesting culture. i appreciate it just like the "outsiders" would.

i've had a huge struggle with this issue throughout my life, especially when i lived in the US people would "preach me" ( ) "why aren't you proud of your heritage?" well hello, WHEN did i say that!? it's an entirely different thing, it's like forcing myself to belong where it is so foreign to me. it's like an arranged marriage to a stranger i don't know. just awkward, strange and a bit unfair because i didn't choose it. and since i never understood why i feel that way, they just made me feel really guilty and terrible. for a while i wore traditional clothes and watched traditional theatre, studied the culture and history to truly "be" the person of this place, but no one there actually makes the conscious "effort" to become that, so they just thought i was a weirdo, like a foreigner trying to belong.

i'm still struggling, i feel a big rejection reaction inside me when people want to think i'm from this country and want to ask me about this place etc. but the truth is that i left the place when i was still pretty young, and i don't even speak the language well. i just want EVERYONE in the world to just forget about it...

posted June 23, 2011 07:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Do you have any planets in 4th house? I don't have any. My 9th house is also intercepted but my feelings about other cultures never changed. I always wanted to move abroad and someday I will.

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my IC is in capricorn. 4th house is aquarius. no planets there as i have no air. why'd u ask? would planets in 4th make me like where i'm from more? i'm idiotically happy wherever i am lol! i forget friends once i don't go to school/work with them anymore and i enjoy the new ones. same with travel. i've lived abroad a few times for school. loved the experience but can't say i really would prefer any of those places to wherever i am. have you tried making a relocated chart for london? i tried for the place i'm moving to and i become libra rising. cool! no more scary scorpio hehe! there are some harsh aspects added to along with good ones but it's the only clear path i can see in a loong time so i'm taking it.

i have these btw.

Ruler of the Ninth House in the Sixth House

Long distance travel, teaching, publishing, law or sports related fields can have a connection with the work you do.
Your philosophies on life or your spiritual beliefs must have practical application in order to appeal to you. You believe in the work ethic or perhaps in helping others in some way. You can use your higher mind to influence the state of your health. Here is an indication that positive thinking can actually boost your well-being.

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Ruler of the Ninth House in the Tenth House